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    FYI ncaa stats west liberty as of Jan 11 2023 after Frostburg

    Improving in FG %, and 3PT shooting % and 3pt made per game.

    Improved offensive Rebounding


    1st- 3pt attempts per game 33.1
    1st- Assist to turnover ratio 1.87 Nova SE is 2nd at 1.73

    1st- 3pt made per game 12.5

    2nd - assists per game 22.7 nova se first at 24.2
    2nd- scoring 101.2 Nova se is first at 107.1

    4th -Turnover margin 7.6 Nova se is 1st at 10.7
    4th- Forced turnovers 19.73 Nova se is #1 at 24.73
    5th - Steals per game 10.9 1st is Nova se is 12.9
    5th - Scoring margin 20 Nova se 1st at 30


    20th - FG % 49.82
    29th - Offensive rebounds per game 13.13
    57th - 3 pt % 37.60
    93rd - FT % 73.05
    117th - Rebound margin 2
    Last edited by Columbuseer; 01-12-2023, 02:36 PM.

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    • FYI
      Amazing turnaround improvement in 3 pt shooting season avg. for West Lib.
      They have 5 guys shooting an elite 40% or greater.
      Another guy nearing elite level at 39%.
      Another guy rose from under 15% early in season to over 34%.

      Two our of best shooters would rank in top 10 nationally at approx 50% , if they had enough attempts.
      However, the ncaa stats require an average of at least approx. 5 attempts a game. Consequently, the stat favors teams with 1 or 2 designated 3pt shooters. I understand the need for a threshold. Unfortunately, the stat does not account for teams where there are balanced 3 pt attempts among multiple players, like at WLU. So there are many elite three point shooters that don't show up in the stat.

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      • Originally posted by Columbuseer View Post

        11-17-2018. WLU 158. Glenville 106, WLU had 87 in 1st half.
        Dang I was in school during that time but don’t recall it

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        • Originally posted by IUPalum View Post

          If you knew basketball then you'd understand that most of those stats are meaningless. That's a lot of work for meaningless stats.
          Stats and where you rank in particular categories compared to other DII teams are MUCH more important than your W/L record. Hahahahaha!!!!!

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          • Originally posted by boatcapt View Post

            Stats and where you rank in particular categories compared to other DII teams are MUCH more important than your W/L record. Hahahahaha!!!!!
            That's not where I was going with that but nice try!

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            • Originally posted by IUPalum View Post

              That's not where I was going with that but nice try!
              In the words of Buckaroo Banzai - No mater where you go, there you are!

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              • Yikes looks like Howlett had his eyes set on the WVU assistant job this week

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                • Originally posted by Layton View Post
                  Yikes looks like Howlett had his eyes set on the WVU assistant job this week
                  Odd

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                  • Wow.

                    I was unable to watch this one because I had to attend a program for my kid. When the program ended and I checked the score . . . just wow. WLU hasn't been that uncompetitive since NWMSU.

                    I'm gonna need someone who watched that game to explain to me how that final score happened. I know WLU never plays well in Retton, and I know FSU doesn't fear WLU one iota. But I can't fathom getting their behinds handed to them like that.

                    I eagerly await your analysis, Columbuseer.

                    Hats off to Fairmont. Big win for those guys that should give a nice boost to their regional profile.

                    (And thank God for my kid's extracurriculars. He might have saved my blood pressure by drawing me away from watching that debacle.)

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                    • West Liberty shot only 36% to Fairmont’s 53%. That a pretty wide margin. Sometimes it’s just the building and once things start slipping away it can totally get away from a team when confidence is lost. The margin of victory is a bit surprising, but I’d just chalk it up to a bad day at the office and that’s going to happen on occasion.

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                      • Originally posted by Layton View Post
                        Yikes looks like Howlett had his eyes set on the WVU assistant job this week
                        Reality is it's a matter of time. He's young and people notice. I'd love to see him at a Duquesne type just to see what happens. I didn't think you'd still have him this year (let alone next year). Although I do have serious doubts if the WL style would work in (major) D1.

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                        • Originally posted by EyeoftheHawk View Post
                          West Liberty shot only 36% to Fairmont’s 53%. That a pretty wide margin. Sometimes it’s just the building and once things start slipping away it can totally get away from a team when confidence is lost. The margin of victory is a bit surprising, but I’d just chalk it up to a bad day at the office and that’s going to happen on occasion.
                          Yes, that shooting percentage is pretty ugly. And FSU's was over 60% in the second half (including over 60% from behind the arc). It seems like it was one of those perfect storm kinda nights at Retton. Unfortunately, those seem to happen a lot in that building.

                          I have a feeling Alderson Broaddus won't know what hit them on Wednesday. They are going to run into a motivated WLU team, I suspect.

                          I was worried about the sloppiness of the Frostburg game creating a kind of hangover in Fairmont today. In fact, I think I told another poster in a PM that I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to drop one today at Retton. I just didn't think it would be a behind-the-woodshed kind of L.

                          Tough day. Gotta learn from it.

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                          • Originally posted by EyeoftheHawk View Post
                            West Liberty shot only 36% to Fairmont’s 53%. That a pretty wide margin. Sometimes it’s just the building and once things start slipping away it can totally get away from a team when confidence is lost. The margin of victory is a bit surprising, but I’d just chalk it up to a bad day at the office and that’s going to happen on occasion.
                            Well, I'd add I think everybody who actually pays attention knew FSU was much better than its record. They had a lot of talented imports this year. That takes time to mesh. Looks like it sure meshed today. And, they are very well-coached.

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                            • Originally posted by Layton View Post
                              Yikes looks like Howlett had his eyes set on the WVU assistant job this week
                              Are you serious? Evidence? Not all coaches think D1 is Shangri-la.

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                              • I'll keep this short as it is cold and windy on this high-rise window ledge.

                                Fairmont had great game plan.
                                • put sanders and/or parris in offense corner against press. When they broke press with 3 on 2, sanders was unguarded in corner. Hit 7-10 from 3. Parris was 5-11. Hale 3-5, Dobbs 1-2.
                                • They were not going to let Bryce beat them. Collapsed on him inside forcing kickout pass. First 10 mins, we were hitting 3s and had leads.
                                • Bigs provided help defense when guards entered lane.
                                • Limit turnover margin
                                they generally succeeded:
                                • After first 10 mins, press did not trouble them. Turnovers even at 16.
                                • They hit 61% 3s in 2nd half to 16% for wl.
                                • They played passing lanes very well, slowing our offensive ball rotation around the perimeter, which restricted open looks.
                                • They have equally great shooters, equally great dribble drive guards, but more experienced bigs.
                                • In general they had better, less difficult shot selection.
                                • Their bigger guards gave our guards trouble.
                                • Deadly FT shooting
                                Perfect storm if you have a below average shooting night and a good team is red hot.

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