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Originally posted by Columbuseer View Post
That guy was an offensive machine. Projecting his offense to 40 minutes yielded about 47 points per game. But his opponent would probably score 55. Lol. Near zero defensive fundamentals were learned growing up. Sad, given his skills.
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Originally posted by boatcapt View Post
It was Ariel Watson. Much of his WLU "career" has been stricken...His name has been removed from the 2018-19 roster, his player profile has been scrubbed and you can't get any game to game information without going into the individual game box scores. Watson was a NJCAA All-American. Played 12 games and was sumerarily bounced from the team. Interesting that his recruiting class consisted of Nick Greely, Yalee Hill and Jon Alessandro. Three of the four were gone by the start of their second season and Alessandro was gone by the start of the next season.
For example:
2019-20 Out In
Greely. Butler
Hill. McKinney
Watson. Robinson III
2020-2021 Out. In
Alessandro. Sarson
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Bryce Butler named d2cca 1st team All American!
https://hilltoppersports.com/news/20...-american.aspx
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Elite 8 WLU vs New HavenWLU Offense- WLU was above average at offensive rating at 132 points per 100 possessions – elite
- WLU had assists on 78% of made FGs while UNH was 48%, as they relied on 1-on-1 play
- Surprisingly, WLU won the offensive rebounding battle 12-9.
- WLU Effective FG % of 63% well above their average of 56%, compared to a slightly below average 51% for UNH
- WLU shutdown UNH on defense – limiting offensive rating to 81 points per 100 possessions, well below their average of 106. When one falls below 95, it is very difficult to win.
- WLU forced 26 turnovers, well above their average of 19 forced turnovers
- WLU forced many dead ball turnovers due to errant passes by UNH; imho a combination of pressure and cognitive fatigue.
- They limited 7-1 center Majur to 4 points – not a factor offensively
Statistic West Liberty Season New Haven Season West Liberty Elite 8 3/21/23 New Haven Elite 8 3/21/23 FGM 1237 836 36 23 FGA 2495 1815 70 49 FTA 679 454 9 12 Three Point FGM 423 237 16 4 three Point FGA 1110 712 36 14 OFF REB 433 240 12 9 Assists 753 396 28 11 Turnovers 390 348 10 26 Steals 367 170 10 6 Turnovers Forced 651 314 26 10 Points 3404 2254 95 58 Games Played 34 33 1 1 Number of Possessions 2751 2123 72 71 Avg. Possessions per Game 81 64 72 71 Pts per Possession 1.24 1.06 1.32 0.81 Offensive Rating - pts/100 possessions 124 106 132 81 Shooting Efficiency (FGM +0.5*3ptFGM)/FGA 58.1% 52.6% 62.9% 51.0% Turnover % 14.2% 16.4% 13.9% 36.5% Forced Turnovers per Game 19.1 9.5 26.0 10.0 Percent Forced Live Ball Turnovers 56.4% 54.1% 38.5% 60.0% Assists % of FG Made 60.9% 47.4% 77.8% 47.8% Assist to Turnover Ratio 1.93 1.14 2.80 0.42
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Observations from a Dummy - Final four WLU vs Black Hills State Univ
BHSU was very well coached, with last year’s national player of the year and an all-region player.
IMHO BHSU could have won- with better foul shooting
- more focus on getting ball to Scott inside in the first half.
- Keeping Scott inside on defense and sending another player to guard our center in the corner
- Reduced missing shots at the rim that we usually make
- Average FT %
- Butler did not have to leave due to injury (nose) late in the game.
- WLU was below average offensively at 116 points per possession (average is 124), which is still better than nearly all teams. It was primarily due to:
- Poor FT % of 55% versus average of 74%
- BHSU did a great job in limiting 3 pt shots to 20 (below average of 36)
- Assists were below average due to BHSU defensive strategy to stop kick out for 3-point shot.
- WLU put center in corner for three which drew Scott away from basket – advantage of positionless basketball. This left large gaps in the lane for dribble drive.
- BHSU did not have guards who could stay in front of our guards so the lane was open for dribble penetration
- BHSU limited WLU to 53% effective shooting % (avg 58%) due to denial of 3 pt shots and some missing easy shots at the rim.
- WLU took amazing care of the ball, with turnovers on only 7% of possessions. 15% is a very good number (BHSU had 16%).
- BHSU has elite offensive efficiency of 115 pts per 100 possessions. WLU held them to 106, despite the fact Scott was nearly unstoppable in the second half and we gave up many needless and-ones.
- WLU limited BHSU 2 pt shooting % to 44% (average of 59%), but more importantly held their shooting efficiency to 50% (Average of 59%)
Statistic West Liberty Season BHSU Season BHSU Final Four 3/23/23 West Liberty Final Four 3/23/23 FGM 1273 1009 27 32 FGA 2565 2009 64 66 FTM 514 392 18 16 FTA 688 533 29 29 Three Point FGM 439 348 10 7 three Point FGA 1146 881 25 20 OFF REB 445 221 12 9 Assists 781 484 15 13 Turnovers 400 386 12 5 Steals 377 182 0 7 Turnovers Forced 677 354 5 12 Points 3499 2758 82 87 Games Played 35 34 1 1 Number of Possessions 2823 2409 77 75 Avg. Possessions per Game 81 71 77 75 Pts per Possession 1.24 1.15 1.07 1.16 Offensive Rating - pts/100 possessions 124 115 107 116 Shooting Efficiency (FGM +0.5*3ptFGM)/FGA 58.2% 58.9% 50.0% 53.8% FT % 74.7% 73.5% 62.1% 55.2% 3PT% 38.3% 39.5% 40.0% 35.0% 2PT% 58.8% 58.6% 43.6% 54.3% Turnovers Per Game 11.4 11.4 12.0 5.0 Turnover % 14.2% 16.0% 15.6% 6.7% Forced Turnovers per Game 19.3 10.4 5.0 12.0 Percent Forced Live Ball Turnovers 55.7% 51.4% 0.0% 58.3% Assists % of FG Made 61.4% 48.0% 55.6% 40.6% Assist to Turnover Ratio 1.95 1.25 1.25 2.60
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Season Stat Comparison WLU and Nova SESo many stats are very close.
Statistic West Liberty Season Nova SE Season FGM 1305 1304 FGA 2631 2568 FTM 530 614 FTA 717 800 Three Point FGM 446 356 three Point FGA 1166 893 OFF REB 454 484 Assists 794 753 Turnovers 405 438 Steals 384 427 Turnovers Forced 689 801 Points 3586 3578 Games Played 36 35 Number of Possessions 2897 2874 Avg. Possessions per Game 80 82 Pts per Possession 1.24 1.24 Offensive Rating - pts/100 possessions 124 124 Shooting Efficiency (FGM +0.5*3ptFGM)/FGA 58.1% 57.7% FT % 73.9% 76.8% 3PT% 38.3% 39.9% 2PT% 58.6% 56.6% Turnovers Per Game 11.3 12.5 Turnover % 14.0% 15.2%
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"Guard our Center in the corner" ??? I wasn't aware we had a Center! Maybe you ment "guard one of our guards in the corner"!?
At the end of the day, we lucked out in that Black Hills didn't figure out how to truly use Scott till the second half. We truly had no answer for him inside. At one point we had a 6'2" guard trying to front him with another 6' guard doubling down on him...didn't turn out too well for us.
But as they say in tourney play, I'd rather be lucky than good. We got lucky and are in the NC game.
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