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[IUPbigINDIANS]

It almost feels like they were considering the region to have 4 conferences (MEC, CIAA, PSAC West, & PSAC East), and it seemed like they felt the need to spread things around a bit. You can understanding their thinking there. But it does feel odd that Armoni didn't make the first team. It just feels like they forced a few things out of a supposed fairness as opposed to picking the actual top players in the region.

Heath had a high PPG avg


Look a little closer at his numbers. Just sayin'

Biss and Armoni ... pretty close call there ... although Biss had a poor ending the last several games.

[Scrub]

It almost feels like they were considering the region to have 4 conferences (MEC, CIAA, PSAC West, & PSAC East), and it seemed like they felt the need to spread things around a bit. You can understanding their thinking there. But it does feel odd that Armoni didn't make the first team. It just feels like they forced a few things out of a supposed fairness as opposed to picking the actual top players in the region.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

Also a defensible argument.

I was surprised to see Heath on the first team.

No comment

[Scrub]

Armoni and Malik BOTH should be on First Team.

Also a defensible argument.

I was surprised to see Heath on the first team.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

Armoni and Malik BOTH should be on First Team.

[Scrub]

You could argue Armoni was IUP's MVP this year. His stats were actually basically the same as Malik (with less TOs).

But again, given Senior status, you can argue for choosing Malik over Armoni. I'm just not sure why they didn't use the same reasoning to choose Malik over Bolon.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

You could argue Armoni was IUP's MVP this year. His stats were actually basically the same as Malik (with less TOs).

[Dirtybird]

[IUPalum]

You guys are talking about where Malik fits on your All-IUP team. Meanwhile this: https://hilltoppersports.com/news/20...-the-year.aspx

If you ask me, your guy Malik got robbed. Bolon certainly had a nice season, and I didn't balk at his winning conference POY (although, NBA-wannabe Bledsoe did have a pretty dominant statistical year). But there's no way I saw Bolon as the top guy in the whole Region. If you'd have asked me last week who would win the Regional POY, I would have said Malik Miller in a heartbeat. I might have even said Biss was #2 before getting to Bolon.

Again, don't get me wrong, I love watching Bolon play and I appreciate the effort he puts out every night. But it just didn't seem like he had that dominant, opponents-plan-for-you kinda year this year. Definitely happy for him. But surprised the Senior Miller--who had to be neck-and-neck with him in voters' eyes--didn't get the nod.

But it's also entirely possible that I fail to appreciate what Bolon brings because I'm privileged to watch him every night out.

[Scrub]

You guys are talking about where Malik fits on your All-IUP team. Meanwhile this: https://hilltoppersports.com/news/20...-the-year.aspx

If you ask me, your guy Malik got robbed. Bolon certainly had a nice season, and I didn't balk at his winning conference POY (although, NBA-wannabe Bledsoe did have a pretty dominant statistical year). But there's no way I saw Bolon as the top guy in the whole Region. If you'd have asked me last week who would win the Regional POY, I would have said Malik Miller in a heartbeat. I might have even said Biss was #2 before getting to Bolon.

Again, don't get me wrong, I love watching Bolon play and I appreciate the effort he puts out every night. But it just didn't seem like he had that dominant, opponents-plan-for-you kinda year this year. Definitely happy for him. But surprised the Senior Miller--who had to be neck-and-neck with him in voters' eyes--didn't get the nod.

But it's also entirely possible that I fail to appreciate what Bolon brings because I'm privileged to watch him every night out.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

Been busy....but still lurking...but obviously not posting much...Now I have some time on my hands, don't we all..... Message boards are good for social distancing...

Good points about those 4 players...so you still putting Malik in your top 5? not arguing, just curious how you rate...

May be before your era, but if you look at single seasons or some delineation, Paul Newman scored 1000 points in 2 seasons....early 90's

My 'first team' would have (7) players (as that's the new trend in such things). These are mainly single season, eye test, etc. (not career stats)

Rodney Horton
Dennis Mimms
Misenko
Webb
Jacobo Diaz
Malik Miller
DeVante Chance


"Sixth Men" - Ashton Smith, Brandon Norfleet, Mike Beckles, Mathis Keita, Marcel Souberbielle, Steve Menifee, DeWayne Anthony


When it's all said and done, Armoni Foster may be better than all of them.


If you get in to 'career' ... that's more difficult. For instance, DeVante Chance really didn't become the DeVante that we remember until about half way through his Junior season.

[IUP24]

Right. This won't be the last time that a new virus emerges and there's a pandemic. They've happened before. It's happening now. And it will happen again. All of what's going on now sets a scary precedent. That said, none of us will think about sports if somebody we know, or if we personally contract the virus. But I'll add, the crowd saying, "it's just sports" is blindly off base.

For many, sports is their livelihood - and I'm not talking about the athletes making millions of dollars. Ushers, ticket takers, vendors, etc... Their income is now gone indefinitely. The restaurants, bars, other establishments outside sporting venues are going to be hit incredibly hard by this. The owners of these businesses rely on the fans coming to their establishment to make their money, to pay their employees, and to feed their own families. The waiters, waitresses, and bartenders at these places make their money primarily from tips. People aren't coming anymore. They are losing their income.

Think about the NCAA Tournament. A city like Albany isn't a massive metropolis. Them getting to host the first two rounds of the NCAA Tournament was a big deal. Think of the money that comes into those hotels and other establishments around the city because you have fans from 4-8 teams in your city for 4 days. That destroys their economy.

Then you think of the players. I think we're all too blinded by "big time" college athletics. Duke, Kansas, North Carolina, etc... At the Division 1 level, imagine being a kid who played for Dayton or San Diego State. That was a once in a lifetime opportunity. Paul Zeise spoke at length about this last night. His daughter is a junior basketball player at Stony Brook. They were 28-3 and set to play Maine in the America East championship for the right to go to the NCAA Tournament tonight. He talked about how devastated she was. She may never get that chance again. It's sad for all of those players, but it was a decision that needed to happen.

I think there's a couple of things that people are going to realize here....

1) I don't think people quite realize how much of a driver sports really is to the economy of our country. I think the "it's just sports" crowd will realize that.

2) I think for sports fans, we'll realize just how much we really live our lives around sports.

[IUP Extra Mile]

I guess you'd have different categories based on how long a player was here. If you go by single seasons ... Rodney Horton and Dennis Mimms are on every list. Everybody on these lists also always forgets about Mike Beckles and Steve Menifee.


BTW, where the hell have you been?

Been busy....but still lurking...but obviously not posting much...Now I have some time on my hands, don't we all..... Message boards are good for social distancing...

Good points about those 4 players...so you still putting Malik in your top 5? not arguing, just curious how you rate...

May be before your era, but if you look at single seasons or some delineation, Paul Newman scored 1000 points in 2 seasons....early 90's

[IUPbigINDIANS]

I haven't watched enough of Malik Miller's career to know if he is on the first team in the last 30 years of IUP Basketball...

Curious, IUP big though, who does Malik Miller bump from this team of 5 IUP Players (and I"m probably missing a few).

Misenko
Darryl Webb
Devante Chance
Ashton Smith
Norfleet

These in top 5?
Keita?
McClain?

I guess you'd have different categories based on how long a player was here. If you go by single seasons ... Rodney Horton and Dennis Mimms are on every list. Everybody on these lists also always forgets about Mike Beckles and Steve Menifee.


BTW, where the hell have you been?

[Chuck Norris]