Iup basketball

[Inkblot]

Wow. Maybe so. It did happen last year in the Southwest when West Texas A&M earned hosting rights on both men's and women's sides, so half the men's bracket shifted to St. Ed's. That's when the precedent was set. But I didn't realize that it played out that both WTAMU & St. Ed's LOST before the final.

The 1 and 2 both losing happened on the women's side. Lubbock Christian hosted the women's regional final as the 3.

[IUP24]

You're right. For an out-of-conference foe that doesn't see the WLU system very often, they were pretty unfazed by the pace/chaos of it in last year's tourney. And if I recall correctly, Brandon Holley (hope I'm remembering the young man's name correctly) had a 3 from the corner rim off at the buzzer, which would have won it if it had gone. That was an amazing game last year, and there's no question about it that VSU is a scary team to have to face in a first-round match-up.

Also goes back to what I said a few weeks ago about the fear-factor or the "mystique" of playing West Liberty being worn off. That's not to say they aren't a great team or won't run roughshod through the Regional. That can happen. They used to kill teams in the NCAA tournament in somewhat of the same manner that they did in the regular season. You just don't see that really anymore.

As I've said, the Atlantic Region is vastly different than it was as recent as 3-4 years ago. That said, teams just look more prepared to play West Liberty. Heck, they look more prepared to play IUP too. You don't exactly see them run teams off the floor other than the bottom dwellers.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

Our losses to Virginia State were earlier in the season when we were not playing that well. We are a tough team defensively ranking #7 in the nation. Best of luck!

WSSU is No. 7 in defense (64.4 ppg allowed) and IUP is No. 9 (65.3 ppg allowed).

[krober34]

Taking a look at Winston-Salem State:

* WSSU has 10 losses -- by a combined 40 points. Their largest margin of defeat was 9 points. They had losses by 2, 1, 1, 2 and 3 points. So, they are a couple buckets here and there away from having a much different record.

* 11-4 at home, 3-0 neutral and 5-6 in true road games.

* Stats:
PPG - 69.6
FG% - 42.5
3PT% - 31.8 (about 19 attempts per game)
FT% - 68.5
Rebounds - 37.9 per game (+3.7 for season)
Defense - 64.2 ppg allowed

* Leading scorer - Senior guard Robert Colon (17 ppg)

* If you go by the season stats, WSSU likes to play a heavy guard lineup. In the regular rotation, only one post player (Mason Harrell) seems to play heavy minutes. He averages 22.2 mpg. They have a lot of nice-size guards in the 6'4" range -- very athletic. Lots of speed.

* Of note, former Pitt point guard Justice Kithcart is listed on the WSSU roster. After being dismissed at Pitt, he went to Old Dominion. From there, he landed at WSSU. He comes off the bench and is playing about 21 mpg and averaging 7.5 points.

* Nine players average double digit minutes

* Against stronger teams:
- 0-2 vs. Virginia State
- 1-1 vs. Bowie State
- 3-0 vs. Fayetteville State
- 1-1 vs. Virginia Union
- 1-1 vs. Johnson C. Smith

Our losses to Virginia State were earlier in the season when we were not playing that well. We are a tough team defensively ranking #7 in the nation. Best of luck!

[Scrub]

Virginia State impressed me in their game against WL in the tournament last year. Although, I doubt they will sneak up on WL this year (even though I don't think they did that last year - I doubt that game was a fluke).

You're right. For an out-of-conference foe that doesn't see the WLU system very often, they were pretty unfazed by the pace/chaos of it in last year's tourney. And if I recall correctly, Brandon Holley (hope I'm remembering the young man's name correctly) had a 3 from the corner rim off at the buzzer, which would have won it if it had gone. That was an amazing game last year, and there's no question about it that VSU is a scary team to have to face in a first-round match-up.

[IUP24]

Virginia State impressed me in their game against WL in the tournament last year. Although, I doubt they will sneak up on WL this year (even though I don't think they did that last year - I doubt that game was a fluke).

[Scrub]

Virginia State had one of the best front lines I've seen this year, and they had some depth.

That's not what I want to hear! Tough front lines tend to give WLU fits. Howlett is only going to get so many performances out of Marlon Moore like the one he got last night, and he just spent it. Hard to fathom Marlon putting two of those together on back-to-back games, but he might have to.

[Ship69]

Taking a look at Winston-Salem State:

* WSSU has 10 losses -- by a combined 40 points. Their largest margin of defeat was 9 points. They had losses by 2, 1, 1, 2 and 3 points. So, they are a couple buckets here and there away from having a much different record.

* 11-4 at home, 3-0 neutral and 5-6 in true road games.

* Stats:
PPG - 69.6
FG% - 42.5
3PT% - 31.8 (about 19 attempts per game)
FT% - 68.5
Rebounds - 37.9 per game (+3.7 for season)
Defense - 64.2 ppg allowed

* Leading scorer - Senior guard Robert Colon (17 ppg)

* If you go by the season stats, WSSU likes to play a heavy guard lineup. In the regular rotation, only one post player (Mason Harrell) seems to play heavy minutes. He averages 22.2 mpg. They have a lot of nice-size guards in the 6'4" range -- very athletic. Lots of speed.

* Of note, former Pitt point guard Justice Kithcart is listed on the WSSU roster. After being dismissed at Pitt, he went to Old Dominion. From there, he landed at WSSU. He comes off the bench and is playing about 21 mpg and averaging 7.5 points.

* Nine players average double digit minutes

* Against stronger teams:
- 0-2 vs. Virginia State
- 1-1 vs. Bowie State
- 3-0 vs. Fayetteville State
- 1-1 vs. Virginia Union
- 1-1 vs. Johnson C. Smith

[IUPbigINDIANS]

Taking a look at Winston-Salem State:

* WSSU has 10 losses -- by a combined 40 points. Their largest margin of defeat was 9 points. They had losses by 2, 1, 1, 2 and 3 points. So, they are a couple buckets here and there away from having a much different record.

* 11-4 at home, 3-0 neutral and 5-6 in true road games.

* Stats:
PPG - 69.6
FG% - 42.5
3PT% - 31.8 (about 19 attempts per game)
FT% - 68.5
Rebounds - 37.9 per game (+3.7 for season)
Defense - 64.2 ppg allowed

* Leading scorer - Senior guard Robert Colon (17 ppg)

* If you go by the season stats, WSSU likes to play a heavy guard lineup. In the regular rotation, only one post player (Mason Harrell) seems to play heavy minutes. He averages 22.2 mpg. They have a lot of nice-size guards in the 6'4" range -- very athletic. Lots of speed.

* Of note, former Pitt point guard Justice Kithcart is listed on the WSSU roster. After being dismissed at Pitt, he went to Old Dominion. From there, he landed at WSSU. He comes off the bench and is playing about 21 mpg and averaging 7.5 points.

* Nine players average double digit minutes

* Against stronger teams:
- 0-2 vs. Virginia State
- 1-1 vs. Bowie State
- 3-0 vs. Fayetteville State
- 1-1 vs. Virginia Union
- 1-1 vs. Johnson C. Smith

[IUPalum]

The really sad part is that IUP has the infrastructure to fully host both given the Memorial Field House and KCAC.

They could've hosted both without using the field house other than practice purposes. It's a joke... Other than the host, all games should be neutral, period!!!

[IUP24]

What an awesome problem to have! Sincere congratulations to IUP for capturing both #1 seeds and for working out scheduling so that they both get to play at home/host.

The really sad part is that IUP has the infrastructure to fully host both given the Memorial Field House and KCAC.

[Scrub]

Awhile back, I have no idea which thread it was in, but Inkblot detailed a split regional scenario that played out last year and both the of the top 2 seeds were eliminated before the final and the championship game was held on the home floor of the the higher seeded team that was actually playing in the game. So I do believe they will move the championship game to an entirely different location if the top 2 seeds are knocked out.

Wow. Maybe so. It did happen last year in the Southwest when West Texas A&M earned hosting rights on both men's and women's sides, so half the men's bracket shifted to St. Ed's. That's when the precedent was set. But I didn't realize that it played out that both WTAMU & St. Ed's LOST before the final.

[Horror Child]

What an awesome problem to have! Sincere congratulations to IUP for capturing both #1 seeds and for working out scheduling so that they both get to play at home/host.

[Chuck Norris]

I don't think they would go to a new site if 1 & 2 lose, would they? When Wheeling lost to Mercy in the first round a few years ago, they still had to play gracious host to the rest of the tournament. I would guess that IUP would be hosting the regional final even if it's a Ship vs. Charleston game.

When the press release says "highest remaining seed" will host the final, I read that to mean the highest remaining seed of the two host sites. So, in the scenario you present where both IUP & WLU lose, I suspect they would just use IUP as the host for the final. But I could be totally wrong.

Awhile back, I have no idea which thread it was in, but Inkblot detailed a split regional scenario that played out last year and both the of the top 2 seeds were eliminated before the final and the championship game was held on the home floor of the the higher seeded team that was actually playing in the game. So I do believe they will move the championship game to an entirely different location if the top 2 seeds are knocked out.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

I don't think they would go to a new site if 1 & 2 lose, would they? When Wheeling lost to Mercy in the first round a few years ago, they still had to play gracious host to the rest of the tournament. I would guess that IUP would be hosting the regional final even if it's a Ship vs. Charleston game.

When the press release says "highest remaining seed" will host the final, I read that to mean the highest remaining seed of the two host sites. So, in the scenario you present where both IUP & WLU lose, I suspect they would just use IUP as the host for the final. But I could be totally wrong.

I'd assume IUP will issue some information today. This is a fairly odd situation. The IUP men and women are both playing Friday. I'm assuming the two ladies' games will be at 12 p.m. and 2:30 p.m. and then the two men's games will be 5:30 p.m. and 8 p.m.

Sounds like a 'sick day' to me.