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  • Chuck Norris
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  • IUPbigINDIANS
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    That's really the terrible irony in all of this ... this past team was built to play that up-tempo game with big, athletic post players. Then, of course, they got bounced by an old-fashioned 'PSAC West' team. I still remember watching late that Saturday night when Mercyhurst rallied to beat Fairmont State in overtime. I knew it was over.

    The only thing I know for sure is just about every team that wins the regional (and beyond) has elite guard play. IUP's had very good guard play the past several years but I wouldn't say elite guard play. Granted, you aren't going to have a Chance, Norfleet and Dyer combination every year. I'm a little torn on the 'big man' topic. I know in January and February it's sure nice to have some muscle in the West wars. That said, I watched Joe's 'Euro Bigs' completely destroy Fairmont State last December in their building. But, as we say, they were pretty ineffective on the boards against more powerful forwards/centers.


    I see them being the favorite in the West next year, but not by a ton. UPJ is loaded. Cal will be much better. Mercyhurst is always a pain. Slippery Rock finds a way to be a thorn. He's got a ton of scorer's to play with ... but, they can't all score 20 ppg. Managing personalities may be Joe's biggest task next season. If he does it well they can be a very strong team. He doesn't put up with much crap so I don't see it being a big issue. I am curious if he's going to play that killer schedule again next season. I assume he will.

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  • IUPbigINDIANS
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    That was best crowd ever at the KCAC from an atmosphere stand-point. Not even close.

    This past year I'd rank the atmosphere as Ship being the best (Field House) and then SRU. Other than those two it was a lame year. Such a shame.

    And, don't get us started on the crowds for the Regional. Awful.

    I've noticed over the years IUP basketball crowds need a villain to get engaged.

    KR ... Till, Sleva ... the better JR teams.

    Even last year Ship taunted the crowd a bit early and it backfired. Old Sleva could back it up. Not so much his little brother.

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  • Chuck Norris
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    Originally posted by hawks16 View Post
    Joe got Scooter Renkin (who played 8 minutes in the national title game) to redshirt the next year so he'd be available longer. I'm not sure if this message board was around then, but how did/would that decision go over?


    ALSO: Tony C is going into the Indiana County Sports Hall of Fame. If you're a fan of the written word: https://www.indianagazette.com/sport...4cd45b7e5.html

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  • IUPbigINDIANS
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    Originally posted by IUP24 View Post
    I think a front court player could use a year to gain muscle and get acclimated more to the college game. Guards are different in my opinion.

    I would certainly, in theory, agree with the bolded comment. In high school, 'big' forwards are about 6'5" to 6'7" and most weigh about 175 pounds soaking wet. Then you show up and get told to go 'man up' to Daddy Ugbede or Patrick Smith, and realize every post you play against is now 6'8", etc.

    There are obviously exceptions. The big man East Stroudsburg played last year was a star by the mid-way point of the season -- and will wreck havoc the next three years (if he stays in D2).

    To Joe's credit, once a player hits the rotation, per se, they don't leave. Manny Yarde was the last 'fringe' rotation player to leave the program early, but, well, that had some 'circumstances' surrounding it.

    I will say this, without question, Joe's love of redshirting transfers has cost him making at least two tournaments.

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  • IUPbigINDIANS
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    The killer in that industry is the lack of money. Once (and if) you make it to a big paper ... you do OK. But, before that you'll spend years and years working at rink-dink locals making peanuts. The industry loses a ton of talent.

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  • IUP CRIMSON HAWKS
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    But he's not a running back. Or at least I don't think that he is.

    Kyle Brandt of Good Morning Football on NFL Network was a RB at one time. I find him very gifted with his wit and grasp on popular culture. I wish that guys like him and Chris Simms (Pro Football Talk) could be on the pregame studio show for CBS. They would be great at it.

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  • IUP24
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    Originally posted by IUP CRIMSON HAWKS View Post
    Even the part where he says about "poorly written posts?" Surely he was not cutting on us, was he? LOL.

    I personally found the article as a tad arrogant to be honest. He really should have had Matt or one of the other sports writers do it in the same format as everyone else got.

    My one female cousin from New England is married to a guy who is a real professional sports writer. He has written for SI, had offices in New York skyscrapers, had books published and is a national name. Easy here, Tony, anyone of us on here could probably do your job if we really wanted to. And had you gone to a real journalism program like say Northwestern-- you would not hear the professor tell you that only 10% of students can actually do the job. Probably 95% of them could. Just simply offering some perspective, nothing more.

    But it is a fantastic honor for him. He has always done a very good job with things and I have greatly enjoyed his work over these many years. No question about that. Great on the air as well.

    But Goodness can that Bob Fulton guy write. Nobody in the county is on par with him I don't think. Matt does a great job with IUP football and I really like Carly Krouse's efforts with local high school football coverage both in print and the online videos. She is superb at it.

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  • IUP24
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    That was a great article.

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  • IUP CRIMSON HAWKS
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    Originally posted by IUP24 View Post
    I think a front court player could use a year to gain muscle and get acclimated more to the college game. Guards are different in my opinion.
    I agree all the way. There has been WAY TOO MUCH of this sort of thing. It makes no sense at all to me!

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  • IUP24
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    Originally posted by IUP CRIMSON HAWKS View Post
    Not very agreeable. I believe that was the same year that a frosh named Devon Cottrell got a redshirt as well. I personally found it as frustrating but Cottrell probably did need a year to soak things up.

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  • IUP CRIMSON HAWKS
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    Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post
    That was a great article.
    Even the part where he says about "poorly written posts?" Surely he was not cutting on us, was he? LOL.

    I personally found the article as a tad arrogant to be honest. He really should have had Matt or one of the other sports writers do it in the same format as everyone else got.

    My one female cousin from New England is married to a guy who is a real professional sports writer. He has written for SI, had offices in New York skyscrapers, had books published and is a national name. Easy here, Tony, anyone of us on here could probably do your job if we really wanted to. And had you gone to a real journalism program like say Northwestern-- you would not hear the professor tell you that only 10% of students can actually do the job. Probably 95% of them could. Just simply offering some perspective, nothing more.

    But it is a fantastic honor for him. He has always done a very good job with things and I have greatly enjoyed his work over these many years. No question about that. Great on the air as well.

    But Goodness can that Bob Fulton guy write. Nobody in the county is on par with him I don't think. Matt does a great job with IUP football and I really like Carly Krouse's efforts with local high school football coverage both in print and the online videos. She is superb at it.

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  • IUP CRIMSON HAWKS
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    Originally posted by hawks16 View Post
    Joe got Scooter Renkin (who played 8 minutes in the national title game) to redshirt the next year so he'd be available longer. I'm not sure if this message board was around then, but how did/would that decision go over?


    ALSO: Tony C is going into the Indiana County Sports Hall of Fame. If you're a fan of the written word: https://www.indianagazette.com/sport...4cd45b7e5.html
    Not very agreeable. I believe that was the same year that a frosh named Devon Cottrell got a redshirt as well. I personally found it as frustrating but Cottrell probably did need a year to soak things up.

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