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  • IUPalum
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    I believe Joe knows what he's doing. I understand your thinking with Spain. Maybe Joe knows something we don't. I know I have a kid I coach that is far better off the bench then when he starts. If you recall, when they went to the National championship with Webb and crew, Julian Sanders came off the bench. He was probably the best shooter in the league but he fit that 6th man role better than as a start with that group.

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  • IUPbigINDIANS
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    Excellent point which poses a question ... why does it seem like depth is always an issue with this program?

    I haven't seen a team come to the KCAC yet this year that has dressed less than 12 players. IUP dresses 10 but only 8 play. I know CJ quitting in camp was a big loss for the bench. I believe Rouse was added to the roster once the CJ news broke. Bearer was off the team then back on (redshirting).

    Cross your fingers. One injury could be devastating for this team. Hell, foul trouble is devastating.

    I like the roster. I'm just not sure the correct rotations and lineups are being used. I won't come off my Spain belief. He plays ----> good stuff happens. He doesn't ----> bad stuff happens. Check the logs. Watch the tapes. The proof is there. He sparked the Shippensburg comeback and was huge in the second half of the Kutztown win. What combination with him on the floor is best ... great question.

    He's a loose cannon ... we all know that. The the good outweighs the bad. I don't know if I'll ever understand him getting just 20 minutes a game.

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  • IUPalum
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    I've watched Gannon play twice this year, they make me nervous against IUP. Reilly is letting that team get out and run this year and they are athletic enough to do it. They are also capable of slowing the game down if needed (Reilly style). I just feel that IUP isn't big enough nor deep enough at this point. It shocks me to say that because that isn't what I thought coming into the season. IUP also turns the ball over way to much. 10 turnovers or below then they win but over 10 and they are screwed.

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  • IUPbigINDIANS
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    That's interesting. Has that been apparent all year or more so in the ESU game? ESU traditionally plays very un-PSAC up-tempo and can tend to speed teams up. IUP is certainly geared to play the faster game and I don't think this team would fair very well in a slow-down traditional 'West' type game.

    Gannon seemed to play more 'Gannon' style against Wheeling but perhaps that was just Reilly knowing he had to slow them down to have a shot.

    Like I said ... it's going to be a good one. Hopefully there are some people there to see it. Indiana High School isn't playing tomorrow night so that should help some. I still hate to see these rivalry games scheduled over break. Gannon's visit two years ago drew almost 3,800 people. I'd be happy with 1,200 tomorrow.

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    Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post
    Tomorrow night's game versus Gannon at the KCAC doesn't have the buzz of a big game but it's a real important one. Tossing out last season for the Golden Knights as an anomaly, Gannon seems to be on its way back to the PSAC contention ranks. The 5-4 record is fairly deceptive once you crunch the numbers a bit. This is by no means going to be an easy game. At best, IUP would probably be considered a mild, 2 to 5 point favorite. Despite being the first West game of the year ... the West isn't very good this year. The PSAC Tournament hosting rights will likely come down to these two teams. Add to it that winning in the Hammermill is never easy so this really becomes a must-win game for IUP.

    A closer look at the Knights:

    Top scorers:

    Forward (6-foot-9) Evan Phoenix 16.1 ppg
    Guard (6-foot) Zay Jackson 14.4 ppg
    Forward (6-foot-7) Matthew Dogan 14.2 ppg
    Key Stats

    CATEGORY GANNON OPPONENTS
    FG % .452 .412
    3PT % .388 .383
    Points per game 74.2 68.9
    Rebounds per game 40.0 29.8
    FT % .672

    Against opponents with talent levels in the IUP neighborhood, the Knights are 1-4 -- with a lopsided win against Bowie and losses to (at) West Chester (73-63), Ohio Dominican (66-56), East Stroudsburg (88-81) and (at) Wheeling Jesuit (65-63). Note: The losses there are in order. They are getting closer with each which shows this team is getting better with each game. The Wheeling game is a story in itself and ESU made a big comeback in the second half to win.

    IUP is going to be dramatically out-sized in this game underneath. Gannon's post rotation is big and deep (must be nice). You also start to assume that every team that comes to town somehow shoots the lights out from the outside in the KCAC.

    The key for IUP to win this game, my opinion, is to speed it up. Fairmont ... they had to try and slow down. Gannon ... they have to speed up. They can't make this the John Reilly dream game of 55-53. If they get in to a bang 'em style slow-down IUP will struggle. IUP's advantage in this game will be speed and guard play. Gannon is out-rebounding its opponents by double digits per game. Speed the pace and avoid the Gannon zone. I think whoever can dictate the pace wins this game.

    It's going to be a good one. This has actually been one dramatic season so far ... lots of thrilling finishes so far.
    You might be surprised by the style of GU on Friday night. can iup run with gu is my question. I know that sounds strange but I could not believe what I saw against ESU. Run and gun. GU has big trouble when they have foul trouble and need to go to the bench. Phoenix and miruad both shooting over 50 percent and Jackson and Dogan combined 45 percent from three. New point guard with great assist to turnover ratio. Long layoff may hurt a hot shooting starting five though. Can't wait to see how it plays out.

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  • IUPbigINDIANS
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    Tomorrow night's game versus Gannon at the KCAC doesn't have the buzz of a big game but it's a real important one. Tossing out last season for the Golden Knights as an anomaly, Gannon seems to be on its way back to the PSAC contention ranks. The 5-4 record is fairly deceptive once you crunch the numbers a bit. This is by no means going to be an easy game. At best, IUP would probably be considered a mild, 2 to 5 point favorite. Despite being the first West game of the year ... the West isn't very good this year. The PSAC Tournament hosting rights will likely come down to these two teams. Add to it that winning in the Hammermill is never easy so this really becomes a must-win game for IUP.

    A closer look at the Knights:

    Top scorers:

    Forward (6-foot-9) Evan Phoenix 16.1 ppg
    Guard (6-foot) Zay Jackson 14.4 ppg
    Forward (6-foot-7) Matthew Dogan 14.2 ppg
    Key Stats

    CATEGORY GANNON OPPONENTS
    FG % .452 .412
    3PT % .388 .383
    Points per game 74.2 68.9
    Rebounds per game 40.0 29.8
    FT % .672

    Against opponents with talent levels in the IUP neighborhood, the Knights are 1-4 -- with a lopsided win against Bowie and losses to (at) West Chester (73-63), Ohio Dominican (66-56), East Stroudsburg (88-81) and (at) Wheeling Jesuit (65-63). Note: The losses there are in order. They are getting closer with each which shows this team is getting better with each game. The Wheeling game is a story in itself and ESU made a big comeback in the second half to win.

    IUP is going to be dramatically out-sized in this game underneath. Gannon's post rotation is big and deep (must be nice). You also start to assume that every team that comes to town somehow shoots the lights out from the outside in the KCAC.

    The key for IUP to win this game, my opinion, is to speed it up. Fairmont ... they had to try and slow down. Gannon ... they have to speed up. They can't make this the John Reilly dream game of 55-53. If they get in to a bang 'em style slow-down IUP will struggle. IUP's advantage in this game will be speed and guard play. Gannon is out-rebounding its opponents by double digits per game. Speed the pace and avoid the Gannon zone. I think whoever can dictate the pace wins this game.

    It's going to be a good one. This has actually been one dramatic season so far ... lots of thrilling finishes so far.

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  • pennbraz
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    That's too bad as it is always fun to watch other region teams play when you can and not have to travel to see.


    Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post
    It unfortunately appears to have been a financial cut this year.

    And, yes, it was a wild one.

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  • IUPbigINDIANS
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    It unfortunately appears to have been a financial cut this year.

    And, yes, it was a wild one.

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  • pennbraz
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    It would have been great to see the Fairmont State-IUP game last night online. Does IUP not webstream any of its games? Sounded like a great one to watch of 2 top 20 clubs.

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  • IUPbigINDIANS
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    https://www.indianagazette.com/news/...cons,25557328/


    Game story. Good quotes.

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  • IUPbigINDIANS
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    IUP is 9-2 at semesters end. I thought there were some good discussion points brought up after the game last night. It made me curious to take a closer look -- in particular at how IUP has played in its three biggest games. IUP could have won all three. IUP could have lost all three. The following are statistics ... not opinions. As you will see, there are some very common factors ... as IUPAlum pointed out last night.


    Stat Category vs. Ship (L) vs. Kutztown (W) vs. Fairmont (L, OT) Overall Season
    Points scored 80 77 81 79.9
    Points against 87 76 91 71.5
    FG % .478 .429 .414 .464
    3PT % .343 .318 .250 .353
    FT % .500 .941 .848 .780
    Rebounds 31 40 37 35.5 per
    Opponents Rebounds 29 34 33 34.5 per
    Assists 19 14 13 17.7 per
    Turnovers 13 19 21 13.8
    Steals 6 3 9 7.6 per
    Blocks 3 3 2 2.7 per
    Opponents FG% .438 .433 .483 .418
    Opponent 3pt % .409 .333 .400 .333
    Opponent FT 36-40 11-20 23-36 173-246
    IUP FT 4-8 16-17 28-33 167-214

    Opponents to date W/L record:

    Lincoln (Win, 101-82) 2-9
    Urbana (Win, 91-74) 5-5
    Bowie (Win, 80-67) 5-7
    Lock Haven (Win, 73-59) 5-4
    Bloomsburg (Win, 63-61) 4-5
    Alderson Broaddus (Win, 75-70) 2-7
    The Sciences (Win, 76-50) 3-10
    Shippensburg (Loss, 87-80) 9-0
    Kutztown (Win, 77-76) 8-1
    Mansfield (Win, 82-69) 4-4
    Fairmont State (Loss, 91-81 OT) 10-0
    Last edited by IUPbigINDIANS; 12-20-2016, 08:40 AM.

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  • IUPbigINDIANS
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    Things could be worse. Mercyhurst lost at home tonight to a previously 0-10 Robert's Wesleyan.

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  • IUPbigINDIANS
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    I agree. Danielak has been pretty shaky at best. Spain has great moments and pull out hair moments. Frustrating, actually. He's (Danielak) gotta find some confidence.

    Beleive me I wanted that game. It was there to take. I don't know how they fix this mental stuff. That's why Joe's here, I guess.

    But, you're right. It's the same stuff. Over and over.

    They are close .... but far.

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  • ironmaniup
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    Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post
    Dude ... they were so outmatched athletically in that game it was unreal.
    for sure, but I thought fairmont was undisciplined and lacked some control - their Achilles heel tonight. If they watch their fouls tonight it wouldn't have been close. Cobo seemed rattled by their athleticism tonight. even though he hit the buzzer beater, the rest of the game, I thought he was not his normal self.

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  • IUPalum
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    Yes I did, it's the same mistakes they continue to make every game. I understand that press will cause a little havoc but there were other turnovers in that game that just can't happen. One distinct one that comes to mind is when Spain "dished" the ball to Danielek, on a fast break but the dish was a rocket that nobody could've caught. It would've been an easy lay up if he puts a little touch on that ball. It's plays like that they haven't connected on all year.

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