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[IUPbigINDIANS]

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IUP conference schedule for next year ... no Ship or Kutztown. Those two are replaced by Cheyney and East Stroudsburg. ESU game is at KCAC over break.

[IUP24]

And, yes, Dante could play at YSU. Look around D2 ... it's full of 'YSU type' players. It would take a new coach a couple years to rebuild it anyway. The current YSU team likely wouldn't even come close to winning the title in D2. The difference between high-end D2 and low-end D1 is much, much, much closer than most realize. But, I hope you're right and this is all for not anyway.

Agree with this. Also agree with Chuck's post regarding Joe's age. This isn't typically the age where guys are going to go and make that jump. Nor is it an age where a mid-major school goes after a guy who's never been a D1 head coach. The guys who coach mid-majors are either retreads that get fired at a bigger job and are just there until the next opportunity opens up, or the Shaka Smart/Brad Stevens type of guy. Young, energetic, and new breath of fresh air into the program.

I think there is validity to Joe being a strong candidate there, but like Chuck said, I think it's only because he's an alumnus of the school. If you're YSU, you just had a coach that had been there for over a decade that was an older guy in the profession retire. To add, he had minimal success there. You can say they were average in his time there.

Isn't that the time to go young from their perspective? I guess my thought is that Joe is approaching 60. Honestly, how much longer do you want to coach when you're at a D2 or low-level D1 program at that age? 5-7 years?

From a basketball perspective, it seems like this would be a time for them to go after a guy that's younger. But I see him as a legitimate candidate for the job.


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[IUPbigINDIANS]

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And, yes, Dante could play at YSU. Look around D2 ... it's full of 'YSU type' players. It would take a new coach a couple years to rebuild it anyway. The current YSU team likely wouldn't even come close to winning the title in D2. The difference between high-end D2 and low-end D1 is much, much, much closer than most realize. But, I hope you're right and this is all for not anyway.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

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Mike Taylor ... that's a name I haven't heard in a long, long time. These assistants come and go so fast at the D2 level you forget most of them were even here after so many years.

I know the D2 assistant is the 'get your feet wet' job in most instances with the goal of getting to the next best job as fast as possible. What do they even make a year?

[Chuck Norris]

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Joe is going nowhere until his son graduates. He is not good enough to transfer with him to the D1 level, so until then he will stay put. After that, he will probably be gone pretty quickly.

Best hire if he did leave: Mike Taylor who is currently the head coach for the Polish national team. Played for Kanaskie from 1992-1996. Was actually an assistant for one year with Edwards in 2000 at IUP. Most energetic, well rounded person and coach I have ever met in my LIFE!!!

Kanaskie return would be epic!!!!!!!! He is my vote!! LOL!

YSU fans don't want Joe because he's too old. When Dante is done he'll be two years older. He's only this close to the YSU job (if he really is close) because he's an alum. This is his shot to be a D1 coach. If he turns it down there likely won't be another. Dante being here certainly complicates the decision but growing up a coach's son I'm sure he would understand if Joe couldn't turn the job down.

[scorpion]

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Joe is going nowhere until his son graduates. He is not good enough to transfer with him to the D1 level, so until then he will stay put. After that, he will probably be gone pretty quickly.

Best hire if he did leave: Mike Taylor who is currently the head coach for the Polish national team. Played for Kanaskie from 1992-1996. Was actually an assistant for one year with Edwards in 2000 at IUP. Most energetic, well rounded person and coach I have ever met in my LIFE!!!

Kanaskie return would be epic!!!!!!!! He is my vote!! LOL!

[IUP Extra Mile]

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I think Fite has to do it...and unfortunately, loses a chance to be special at Ship next year....But the long term (beyond next year) IUP is the best d2 landing spot for Fite...it's a good fit bc of the famliarity...

If fite is a no-go....now you can open it up to anyone....
Reynolds--who I think would do a good job...
Head assistant from WL (prob waiting for Crutch's job)
Boone, former Cal PA coach?
Would Kanaskie be interested, for that matter? he's been a career d1 assistant, vagabonding through the coaching ranks in the last 18 years...Maybe a head job would interest him...He's now assistant at Air Force

[IUP24]

Does anyone have a list of coaches to replace joe. He isn't gone yet but thinking of his replacement is reasonable.

Let's not cross this bridge yet. Please.

But throw everything you have at Chris Fite.


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[IUPbigINDIANS]

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IF ... and until it's a signed contract ... it's still IF it happens:


IUP will go after Chris Fite full speed with a big offer. He'll be Target Number One from the outset. Now, would Fite walk away from a program he built from scratch and that will be completely loaded next season? Hard to say. Money talks. He's done incredible at Ship. Can he sustain it with limited resources? That's the big question. He's not going to find a Dustin Sleva every year. IUP would be very attractive to just about any D2 coach -- facilities, money, campus, town, etc.


Beyond him ... hard to say. For just about every coach in the PSAC, MEC, etc., this would be a huge pay raise. They won't have trouble getting a slew of top-level applicants.

[Chuck Norris]

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Does anyone have a list of coaches to replace joe. He isn't gone yet but thinking of his replacement is reasonable.

First phone call made is to Shippensburg. If Fite turns them down open it up, cast a wide net. I'd have to think about specific names but this is a very attractive D2 job.

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Does anyone have a list of coaches to replace joe. He isn't gone yet but thinking of his replacement is reasonable.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

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IUP and Gannon again led the PSAC in attendance this year -- although IUP's average gate of 1,401 was nearly double Gannon's average of 712. For comparison, these two schools are far and away ahead of the other 16 conference members in attendance. IUP got a real big boost over the last 4-5 home games -- with Clarion oddly enough drawing almost 2,500 on a cold Wednesday night. Somewhat strangely the Field House game also drew a nice number again this year. It could be 'opening night' excitement or people actually like watching games over there as a novelty once a year. IUP's home average is still putting the KCAC at just 35 percent occupancy. Granted, giving the students 7 weeks off for winter break is not helping these numbers.


Five-year trend:

YEAR	IUP	GANNON
2016-17	1,401	712
2015-16	1,363	763
2014-15	1,330	1,134
2013-14	2,090	963
2012-13	1,586	1,080

My 'wish list' for the KCAC:

* Make only the benches side reserved. Let the students have Rows 1-2 across the court and the rest is general admission. Create an opposing atmosphere.
* Making Rows 3 and up on that side all general admission will bring the crowd closer to the court and condense it -- and avoid having 1,400 spread out over 4,000 seats.
* Spice up the player introductions. They are very boring. Dim the lights. Play some loud music. Make it exciting. The KCAC has the technology to do this yet treats the intros like 1985. At D1 games that is one of the most exciting parts of the night.
* Find an announcer with some energy, enthusiasm and excitement. Listen to D1 games.
* Ticket, food and beer prices are out of control. Offer family plans. Something.
* With the students gone for 7 weeks -- and with now having some big games played during that stretch -- do anything possible to get bodies in to the building. Even $1 tickets. Then they can buy your famous $5 hot dogs, etc. Playing Gannon at home in front of 800 people on Dec. 29 .... goodness.
* If they insist on employing 15 ushers have them actually check tickets. I'd guess in more than 90% of home games this year I had to tell people to move from my seats.
* If anything else one option would be to make the lower bowl reserved and the rest of the building general admission (and the general admission shouldn't cost the same as the reserved). I'd guess they have about 900 regulars who will be there whether it's over break, on a Sunday or at 3 a.m.

While the KCAC is a great venue, the game-day environment and atmosphere is largely geared toward the older generation. Spice it up and the students will come. They make all the noise and make it a festive environment. Once the games become 'events' ... everything changes.

[ctrabs74]

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I think a losing school can restrict were a player can and can not transfer to if they so chose. It is a common occurrence at the D1 level. Don't no if a DII could restrict one of it's players from transferring to a D1.

I haven't heard of any such instances in D2, though that's not to say that it can't happen.

[boatcapt]

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I think a losing school can restrict were a player can and can not transfer to if they so chose. It is a common occurrence at the D1 level. Don't no if a DII could restrict one of it's players from transferring to a D1.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

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I'm not sure that's exactly what Joe was implying. He could have also meant Hinton could be going D1. I don't know all the details of how LH landed him. It was just a strange comment and he noticeably caught himself and changed the topic.

Didn't Norfleet have to sit out the first semester?