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[Ship69]

McCarthy was never part of the HUAC. Dems go to move is to form a congressional committee to "investigate" their political opponents as "threats to democracy."

Never said he was. I'm somewhat aware that a senator could not be part of a House committee. Just pointing out that he was part of the problem then. So the Democrats led the multiple investigations of Benghazi? I lived through those eras and have a pretty good idea of what was going on. Believe what you will, and I'm done with this. Merry Christmas.

[boatcapt]

There are very few parallels. I wasn't talking about the pre-war HUAC period. Both the Republican and Democratic parties from the '30s through the '60s were vastly different from today's parties; If you're hung up on party, Joe McCarthy was a Republican, etc., etc. Point is, there have been very few decades in this country's history when everything has been just fine.

McCarthy was never part of the HUAC. Dems go to move is to form a congressional committee to "investigate" their political opponents as "threats to democracy."

[Ship69]

Hummm...House Un-American Activity Committee of 1938...5 Democrats and 2 Republicans. The current House January 6 Committee...7 Democrats and 2 Republicans. Yep, many paralels.

There are very few parallels. I wasn't talking about the pre-war HUAC period. Both the Republican and Democratic parties from the '30s through the '60s were vastly different from today's parties; If you're hung up on party, Joe McCarthy was a Republican, etc., etc. Point is, there have been very few decades in this country's history when everything has been just fine.

[Fightingscot82]

Edinboro adds a non-conference game at Indianapolis on December 30. I imagine there's some sort of guarantee involved to make this happen on late notice.

[boatcapt]

No, that was handled by HUAC, Joe McCarthy, Dixiecrats in Congress, and other assorted folks.

Hummm...House Un-American Activity Committee of 1938...5 Democrats and 2 Republicans. The current House January 6 Committee...7 Democrats and 2 Republicans. Yep, many paralels.

[Ship69]

There weren't politicians and media folks villainizing and demonizing the opposition.

No, that was handled by HUAC, Joe McCarthy, Dixiecrats in Congress, and other assorted folks.

[boatcapt]

There weren't politicians and media folks villainizing and demonizing the opposition.

Very true...And there weren't nearly as many media hacks and academicians fanning the flames of division for political and personal gain. Funny how we all got along so much better when we didn't have a chorus of media and intellectuals telling us how upset and offended we should be about everything.

[Fightingscot82]

70's, 80's and 90's were better than now.

There weren't politicians and media folks villainizing and demonizing the opposition.

[boatcapt]

When have they not been?

70's, 80's and 90's were better than now.

[WarriorVoice]

Well, unfortunately this is very much a part of basketball now. We lost a season last year, and I'd hate to see this one disrupted without people taking at least a minimum of precaution to prevent that. I don't want these young men and women to lose another opportunity.

I second this!! Got boostered Friday! Merry Christmas D2 Nation!

[Fightingscot82]

And things are better now? Better to be divided along ethnic, racial, sexual and political lines.

When have they not been?

[boatcapt]

I repeat. That's a largely white, protestant influenced perspective. We've excluded people from Day Zero in this country. Immigrants saw themselves as Americans but didn't assimilate the way we tell ourselves they did. My ancestors came to Pittsburgh because there was a German-speaking community: German-speaking neighborhoods, German-speaking churches, German daily newspapers, etc. Those lasted well into the 20th century. What changed was that kids learned English in school and eventually English became the primary language at home. People Anglicized their names to fit in. Assimilation and the "melting pot" isn't a good thing. That's a fallacy. It sounds good but people lose their identity.

Hell, we had a US president who didn't speak English at home and his name wasn't Obama. There are about 350k Amish in the United States and about half don't speak English at home.

And things are better now? Better to be divided along ethnic, racial, sexual and political lines.

[Ship69]

Can we get back to basketball, gentlemen? In general, I come to this site as a respite from all the other stuff going on in our world. If the biggest thing we have to worry about is Brent Pegram's health or Jake Biss's shooting percentage, then life is good . . . for at least the little while I'm reading this site.

Well, unfortunately this is very much a part of basketball now. We lost a season last year, and I'd hate to see this one disrupted without people taking at least a minimum of precaution to prevent that. I don't want these young men and women to lose another opportunity.

[Scrub]

Can we get back to basketball, gentlemen? In general, I come to this site as a respite from all the other stuff going on in our world. If the biggest thing we have to worry about is Brent Pegram's health or Jake Biss's shooting percentage, then life is good . . . for at least the little while I'm reading this site.

[Fightingscot82]

Certainly not rose-colored glasses. America used to be a country were most citizens, new and old, strove to be Americans (full stop with no hyphens). For new immigrants, it wasn't an over night process...hence the term often applied to the United States, Melting Pot and the national motto Out of many, one. Was it a perfect process, nope and small pockets resisted. But for the vast majority of US citizens, they were Americans and wanted to be thought of as Americans.

I repeat. That's a largely white, protestant influenced perspective. We've excluded people from Day Zero in this country. Immigrants saw themselves as Americans but didn't assimilate the way we tell ourselves they did. My ancestors came to Pittsburgh because there was a German-speaking community: German-speaking neighborhoods, German-speaking churches, German daily newspapers, etc. Those lasted well into the 20th century. What changed was that kids learned English in school and eventually English became the primary language at home. People Anglicized their names to fit in. Assimilation and the "melting pot" isn't a good thing. That's a fallacy. It sounds good but people lose their identity.

Hell, we had a US president who didn't speak English at home and his name wasn't Obama. There are about 350k Amish in the United States and about half don't speak English at home.