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Originally posted by EyeoftheHawk View Post
Or maybe there’s not a ton of interest in him from the top programs. The big time programs don’t have to find ways to generate buzz.
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Originally posted by Chuck Norris View Post
All it takes is one run to the playoff and he’ll be the hottest name in the sport again. I do have my doubts that it’ll happen since, as I said, I don’t expect him to grind away in Boulder for the long haul if his success plateaus or takes a downward turn.
My point in saying that, it's more likely, perhaps, that Colorado maybe reaches the playoff (with an expanded field), but it's less likely that they'll make a run. I would say the same thing about a school like Pitt. You can make the field, but it mostly is going to end there.
If you've been following the spring transfer portal at all and how these schools are being held hostage by players (most of whom aren't elite, game changing players), you'll know exactly what I mean. It's impossible for anyone outside of about 10-15 schools to have any depth. The schools making runs in the playoff have elite starters, sure, but they are buying starting players off Colorado's roster to round out a 2-deep to build depth which separates them from the rest of the pack.
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Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View PostInteresting development over the weekend at Pitt, with promising QB Julian Dugger entering the transfer portal. The Panthers also signed Oklahoma QB transfer Cole Gonzales.
Dugger (Penn Hills) showed a lot of flash in Pitt's bowl game. It will be interesting to see where he lands.
Holstein has 3 years of eligibility. Heintschel is a true freshman. Dugger was now clearly 3rd string behind them both with 4 years of eligibility remaining. Kind of the way it goes for the #3 QB. To be fair, my concern with Dugger was always that he was a left-handed QB. That means something. You are swapping your LT/LG with your RG/RT to protect his blindside. The handoffs are different. The exchanges are different. You flip some of the calls on the call sheet. Receivers say the pass comes out different. It's just "different" when you are working with a lefty QB.
Dugger is a great athlete. Other schools were recruiting him as a wide receiver out of Penn Hills. I wish that Pitt would have found a way to keep him on their roster, but if he is dead set on playing QB, he may have to look outside of the P4 to do so if he wants to get on the field quickly.
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Our old friend Curt just got a nice recruit out of the WPIAL. Pine-Richland's Lawrence 'Jay' Timmons (currently graded a 3-star) committed to Indiana last night.
He had offers from WVU, Syracuse, Pitt, Virginia, Wisconsin, Maryland, USF, Iowa State and Iowa.
He is the son of former Steelers LB Lawrence Timmons.
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Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View PostInteresting development over the weekend at Pitt, with promising QB Julian Dugger entering the transfer portal. The Panthers also signed Oklahoma QB transfer Cole Gonzales.
Dugger (Penn Hills) showed a lot of flash in Pitt's bowl game. It will be interesting to see where he lands.
Cole Gonzales helps Pitt as an experienced QB who can be a backup. He played at Western Carolina (for Kade Bell and his dad) before going to Oklahoma for one year. He knows the Kade Bell offense and provides good experience in the event that Holstein goes down. I have to think there still may be some lingering health items with Holstein if they were able to attract Gonzales, although I have not heard anything to suggest that. QBs 1-3 of Holstein, Gonzales, and Heintschel in 2025 is far superior to Holstein, Nate Yarnell, and Ty Deffienbach of 2024.
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Originally posted by IUP24 View Post
From what I'm being told, Dugger's father felt he should be an FBS starting quarterback this fall. He fell to third on the depth chart after Heintschel passed him up. When it was clear he wasn't going to play, he transferred. He supposedly has a visit to Washington State, but otherwise, what I'm hearing is he is likely dropping to a smaller school to play QB and try to ascend back to P4 down the road. Pitt was his only P4 offer out of Penn Hills.
Cole Gonzales helps Pitt as an experienced QB who can be a backup. He played at Western Carolina (for Kade Bell and his dad) before going to Oklahoma for one year. He knows the Kade Bell offense and provides good experience in the event that Holstein goes down. I have to think there still may be some lingering health items with Holstein if they were able to attract Gonzales, although I have not heard anything to suggest that. QBs 1-3 of Holstein, Gonzales, and Heintschel in 2025 is far superior to Holstein, Nate Yarnell, and Ty Deffienbach of 2024.
Part of the Dugger situation might be that the WPIAL is no longer producing much top talent beyond the offspring of Steelers. I wonder how degree that played into Devin Whitlock transferring from Pitt to IUP. Whitlock was one of the more heralded WPIAL recruits the last couple years and seemed poised to become the local star at Pitt. I've always suspected of SWPA overvaluing WPIAL talent (especially now with a shallower divisional structure).
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Originally posted by Fightingscot82 View Post
That's a pretty good synopsis.
Part of the Dugger situation might be that the WPIAL is no longer producing much top talent beyond the offspring of Steelers. I wonder how degree that played into Devin Whitlock transferring from Pitt to IUP. Whitlock was one of the more heralded WPIAL recruits the last couple years and seemed poised to become the local star at Pitt. I've always suspected of SWPA overvaluing WPIAL talent (especially now with a shallower divisional structure).
If you read the PSU boards, ... they will say exactly that (WPIAL talent is way overrated).
Big Game James still seems to cherry pick it quite well but I'd agree, overall, it's way, way down.
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Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post
If you read the PSU boards, ... they will say exactly that (WPIAL talent is way overrated).
Big Game James still seems to cherry pick it quite well but I'd agree, overall, it's way, way down.
I also know that Narduzzi doesn't really care about the WPIAL in the manner than most Pitt fans want him to. Pitt is hardly in the mix for any WPIAL guys ever anymore. They target maybe 3-5 local players and don't really bother with the rest. I don't necessarily have a problem with that to be honest because a bunch of them just end up transferring home in 2 years anyways (hello MJ Devonshire). And a 3-star from Florida or Georgia is likely a better player long term than a 4-star from Western PA. I think the sad part though is that not enough players see the value in simply getting on the field early and getting tape. Pitt doesn't stack up to the elite programs of college football. But they are exceptional at developing talent and getting guys into the league. That's mostly been true regardless of who the coach is. A Tesla and a bag of cash is nice at 18, but playing early and generating tape to have professional opportunities down the road is nicer.
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Originally posted by Fightingscot82 View Post
That's a pretty good synopsis.
Part of the Dugger situation might be that the WPIAL is no longer producing much top talent beyond the offspring of Steelers. I wonder how degree that played into Devin Whitlock transferring from Pitt to IUP. Whitlock was one of the more heralded WPIAL recruits the last couple years and seemed poised to become the local star at Pitt. I've always suspected of SWPA overvaluing WPIAL talent (especially now with a shallower divisional structure).
His two biggest scholarship offers were Duquesne and Youngstown State.
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