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[IUP24]

I have to imagine this is happening continually behind the scenes and this one just happened to get the media attention given the popularity of the programs and player involved. A big name getting outed might make others think twice about how aggressive they get.

The report is Dan Lanning notified Josh Huepel that his people were snooping around looking for money.

[TheBigCat2192]

Since we’re talking NIL - former Miami recruit turned Florida recruit Jaden Rashada sued UF’s head coach and an executive from the collective after not receiving allegedly promised money. A court dismissed part of the suit but ruled that the case could go on to discovery for fraud and conspiracy to commit fraud. I’m curious to see where this case goes and if it might be enough to get Napier fired.

[EyeoftheHawk]

Since we’re talking NIL - former Miami recruit turned Florida recruit Jaden Rashada sued UF’s head coach and an executive from the collective after not receiving allegedly promised money. A court dismissed part of the suit but ruled that the case could go on to discovery for fraud and conspiracy to commit fraud. I’m curious to see where this case goes and if it might be enough to get Napier fired.

I’m guessing most coaches aren’t really equipped to handle these negotiations in the first place. I wonder what the typical process is. Does a kid and an agent sit down with the coach and lay out his demands? Do the schools have someone on their side of the table negotiating or is it just the coaching staff? Are there actual signed contracts and if so, are they with the school or the collective? Such a strange time we’re living in.

[Fightingscot82]

Its my understanding that the collectives just throw a docusign contract to the recruit and its on the recruit to review, sign, & return. Not exactly sure that's the best method, but I don't think its unethical. This is what happens when we're throwing thousands and millions at 18 year olds, some of whose parents don't exactly math.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

I’m guessing most coaches aren’t really equipped to handle these negotiations in the first place. I wonder what the typical process is. Does a kid and an agent sit down with the coach and lay out his demands? Do the schools have someone on their side of the table negotiating or is it just the coaching staff? Are there actual signed contracts and if so, are they with the school or the collective? Such a strange time we’re living in.

They aren't, which is why the major programs are all hiring GMs (to essentially manage the cap).

[IUP24]

They aren't, which is why the major programs are all hiring GMs (to essentially manage the cap).

Schools are beginning to go this route because (contrary to what many believe and what I argued with everyone about in August), collectives aren't going to be what drives the money moving forward. The money dished out in payments (up to 21 million) is going to be coming directly from the school.

Now... Where they are getting that money is going to vary. Some many utilize tv revenue, others may be given money from collective donations, etc. But the point is, Buddy Garrity (if you know, you know) who owns the car dealership can no longer just write a check to buy whatever player he wants because, gosh darn it, he just wants his team to win that badly... He can, I suppose, but there are going to be a lot more checks and balances within that process under this new format. Will schools skirt around the intend application of this? Sure.

The bottom line is that because of the dollar value that is part of the House settlement, which will be direct payment to student athletes from the university, the collectives aren't going to drive this way that they have been. There's also going to be far less opportunities for those groups to raise and spend money, because the money they are currently raising is now going to the university directly to ultimately distribute, now, directly to the players. What's existed the last 2-3 years has been payments disguised as faux NIL claims. What we are seeing as NIL now is never what NIL was actually intended to be.

Some schools are utilizing a GM for just one sport. Others have brought in a GM for a few sports. Everyone seems to be taking a different approach. Doug Whaley is supposedly the "GM" of Pitt's football program. That checks out considering how Whaley's time in the NFL as a GM went.

[Fightingscot82]

We're going to see a total demarcation of football revenue staying within football to fund player payments and coaching salaries. That old fashioned model of using football & men's basketball revenue to fund the entire department is over.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

We're going to see a total demarcation of football revenue staying within football to fund player payments and coaching salaries. That old fashioned model of using football & men's basketball revenue to fund the entire department is over.

The old way of buying superstars will rev back up. Bags of cash.

The rogue boosters will come back to power.

[Fightingscot82]

The old way of buying superstars will rev back up. Bags of cash.

The rogue boosters will come back to power.

It hasn't happened as quickly as I had predicted. I totally thought schools in the attractive locations with shady money laying around would instantly make a move: UCLA/USC, Miami, Florida Atlantic, Florida International, UNLV, etc. Can you imagine what Boone Pickens would have done with these rules?

[TheBigCat2192]

They aren't, which is why the major programs are all hiring GMs (to essentially manage the cap).

The GM thing has its own issues. Who runs the football program? A group of big time Cal donors have threatened to stop donating if GM Ron Rivera isn’t given more of a hand in how the program is run. I saw on ESPN that EMU had hired Max Crosby to be an assistant GM with responsibilities including:

He will help Eastern Michigan evaluate high school and portal prospects, manage its NIL budget and also serve as special assistant to the fundraising, alumni relations and student-athlete support.

I’m curious how much of his job will actually just be showing up to recruiting meetings to say “I went pro from here, come to EMU and you’ll be like me.”

[IUP24]

The old way of buying superstars will rev back up. Bags of cash.

The rogue boosters will come back to power.

Perhaps, but that ends up being less money that these schools have to funnel into their revenue sharing bucket. This is what I vehemently argued about with everyone here last summer. You have to holistically view this entire situation. Few have done that.

The rogue boosters who you are referencing are the ones who are funding the collectives. Those collectives seem limitless, but they are not. If you evaluate the balance sheets of universities, or athletic departments, there's not as much extra cash as you think (even with these insane television deals). So schools like OSU, Penn State, etc. - pick one of the 15-20 big time programs - have major donors writing major checks towards their collectives to fund their NIL war chest. What is now going to happen is that same money is going to get moved from their NIL fund into the pool or bucket of money that they will likely be pulling from to utilize for their revenue sharing payments. It's simply moving the same amount of money from the left hand to right hand to ultimately pay the same amount (or maybe less) to the same players.

Your position is that those guys are eventually going to forgo even donating to the collectives and just straight up give a hidden bag of money to a player in a back alley somewhere. Perhaps that is what happens. But the more frequently that occurs, the LESS money there is going to be for some of these big programs to build out their roster. This entire approach was designed to lessen the power of boosters and collectives.

[Fightingscot82]

Deion once again creating controversy and once again got us talking about Colorado (and him) when nobody was.

[EyeoftheHawk]

Deion once again creating controversy and once again got us talking about Colorado (and him) when nobody was.

It was entertaining at first and I admit, I got a kick out of him for a while, but it’s getting stale. I’m starting to see prominent college football voices saying things like “Colorado football is not a serious program.”

[IUPbigINDIANS]

It was entertaining at first and I admit, I got a kick out of him for a while, but it’s getting stale. I’m starting to see prominent college football voices saying things like “Colorado football is not a serious program.”

He's still selling tickets and turning heads.

For now, anyway, that's probably all that matters in Boulder.

No denying that program was a total dumpster when he took over. He has brought excitement back.

[Chuck Norris]

It was entertaining at first and I admit, I got a kick out of him for a while, but it’s getting stale. I’m starting to see prominent college football voices saying things like “Colorado football is not a serious program.”

I’m surprised he’s sticking around. I guess he wants to give the appearance that he didn’t just take the job to get his kids and Travis Hunter into the NFL. My totally uneducated guess is that if Colorado doesn’t have a monster season this year or maybe next that leads to a much more glamorous job, he’ll be done with coaching and become a full time pain in the ass for whoever drafts his kid(s).