PASSHE Institutions Merging

[IUPNation]

She's originally from Bryn Mawr so I imagine she's familiar with the region. She's a nice woman but wasn't a good fit for the rural locals. They called her "the nice liberal".

[IUPbigINDIANS]

As usual, I have no idea what you're saying. I do have a question for you, though. Do you work for Greenstein? Are you on here to try to neutralize the conversation?

He could. LOL. We know for a fact our athletic department friends consider this board daily reading. I tend to doubt the academic types do, though.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

You can make that example out of lots of schools. Duquesne comes to mind. It's safe on campus. Step off at night and good luck. Many urban campuses deal with it.

[Fightingscot82]

For those who want to know.

Personal life[edit]
Wollman is married to Dan L. King,^[16] executive director of the American Association of University Administrators.^[17] They live in Wallingford, Pennsylvania.^[18]

Is that where Widener is? Unsure if they have a president's house or give a housing allowance.

[iupgroundhog]

She's originally from Bryn Mawr so I imagine she's familiar with the region. She's a nice woman but wasn't a good fit for the rural locals. They called her "the nice liberal".

For those who want to know.

Personal life[edit]
Wollman is married to Dan L. King,^[16] executive director of the American Association of University Administrators.^[17] They live in Wallingford, Pennsylvania.^[18]

[Fightingscot82]

She's originally from Bryn Mawr so I imagine she's familiar with the region. She's a nice woman but wasn't a good fit for the rural locals. They called her "the nice liberal".

[IUPNation]

I agree - my school district has grown and continues to share its research into growth projections with taxpayers. All these presidents had to do is maintain a relationship with local school districts and they'd hear what is going on. I do think a few thought they were able to outsmart the others. But in hindsight its industry-wide.

Part of this is that nearly all PASSHE presidents are first timers and use system universities as an internship. The 40th-percentile salary gets you that. Presidents come in, make strategic decisions to build a resume, then jump ship for a pay raise. You can't earn a promotion by staying the course for four years. For example, Julie Wollman averaged $250k when she was president at Edinboro 2012-2016. She then jumped to Widener where she makes $550k plus her husband gets an annual $30k fee for "consulting duties."

[IUPNation]

In my last job, I noticed that nearly all employees had their own printers in their individual offices, even though we had a very expensive high volume color laser machine in the suite. I convinced my VP do away with them and paper usage plummeted.

The only thing Zoom can't replicate is open office hours for students. Today's students don't call or email so appointment-making isn't in their nature.

[boatcapt]

That triad will then have 1 President running it all.

One school, one president.

[complaint_hopeful]

Mansfield president transfers to Ship.

https://www.weny.com/story/43680251/...nces-departure

That triad will then have 1 President running it all.

[Bart]

Mansfield president transfers to Ship.

https://www.weny.com/story/43680251/...nces-departure

[iupgroundhog]

Generally upper management isn't who installs processes. It's more mid-level managers who need to assess their areas and do that.

As far as it being good that individuals make decisions on everything...WHY is that good? Like when I call somewhere to enroll, why does the person I talk to have to come up with the process for me to enroll on the fly? That's totally a case for defining a process that is used by everyone.

ie Fill out an application, then this step, then that step, then you're a student.

As usual, I have no idea what you're saying. I do have a question for you, though. Do you work for Greenstein? Are you on here to try to neutralize the conversation?

[complaint_hopeful]

I don't think you understand what I was saying. To break it down, I was criticizing the "process maturity" model that you associate with greater consolidation, i see your justification as increased bureaucracy where individuals lose control. You also characterize the individual schools' administration as essentially incompetent and I don't think that's the case, and, if it were, it wouldn't matter too much.

You want "process maturity?" Wait until these school groupings are a reality and see how the process of serving individuals goes.

Generally upper management isn't who installs processes. It's more mid-level managers who need to assess their areas and do that.

As far as it being good that individuals make decisions on everything...WHY is that good? Like when I call somewhere to enroll, why does the person I talk to have to come up with the process for me to enroll on the fly? That's totally a case for defining a process that is used by everyone.

ie Fill out an application, then this step, then that step, then you're a student.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

I agree - my school district has grown and continues to share its research into growth projections with taxpayers. All these presidents had to do is maintain a relationship with local school districts and they'd hear what is going on. I do think a few thought they were able to outsmart the others. But in hindsight its industry-wide.

Part of this is that nearly all PASSHE presidents are first timers and use system universities as an internship. The 40th-percentile salary gets you that. Presidents come in, make strategic decisions to build a resume, then jump ship for a pay raise. You can't earn a promotion by staying the course for four years. For example, Julie Wollman averaged $250k when she was president at Edinboro 2012-2016. She then jumped to Widener where she makes $550k plus her husband gets an annual $30k fee for "consulting duties."

Good for her. That's a heck of a jump.

We're small schools that unfortunately not enough people care about in the big picture. As a sports parallel, the goal of most of our coaches is to get a 'resume line' and get the heck out of here as fast as possible -- especially assistants. If the president pay range remains the same then it will just be a pretty constant revolving door. That being said I think fresh blood is often good after so many years. If you get 4-5 years from one of these hires that's probably pretty good.

[iupgroundhog]

Process maturity is neither good or bad by itself, but in a public service oriented business, it is important to success. But managers need to be able to identify which processes are working and contributing to success and which are f'ed up and costing time and money. Holding on to a failed process just because it is "mature" is a very bureaucratic thing to do. Unfortuanatly, shared services like envisioned tends to increase bureaucracy.

Process maturity, consolidation, streamlining - this all comes with the territory. The goal is to save money. All the talk about serving the needs of students is hogwash, in my opinion. That will probably not happen.

Something like "process maturity" is minutiae. It's just jargon in this context. The organizational factor that is paramount and overrides everything else is centralization. And, I would add, everything that comes with it.