PASSHE Institutions Merging

[IUPNation]

Because they need the students. Wheeling has 527 full time students. 127 are football players.

Edit: 465 of their 527 students are athletes. How many of the other 62 are Profs/Staffs kids? I don't see how this is sustainable.

That school is closing.

Frostburg must have its application filled out.

[IUPNation]

Here’s a question: how does wheeling have a football team? They just added it a few years back, but sometime after that the jesuits pulled out.

The Jesuits pulled out.

Thsts literally a fast ball right over the plate…,

[IUPbigINDIANS]

Because they need the students. Wheeling has 527 full time students. 127 are football players.

Edit: 465 of their 527 students are athletes. How many of the other 62 are Profs/Staffs kids? I don't see how this is sustainable.

It's Urbana and (fake) Notre Dame 3.0

It's not

[BlueBlood]

Wheeling University OPE ID: 00383100

Location: 316 Washington Ave Wheeling, WV 26003

Phone: (304) 243-2000

Number of Full-time Undergraduates: 527

Men: 332

Women: 195

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BTW - when is the last time you saw a M/F ratio like that?

[BlueBlood]

Here’s a question: how does wheeling have a football team? They just added it a few years back, but sometime after that the jesuits pulled out.

Because they need the students. Wheeling has 527 full time students. 127 are football players.

Edit: 465 of their 527 students are athletes. How many of the other 62 are Profs/Staffs kids? I don't see how this is sustainable.

[Tdobson]

Here’s a question: how does wheeling have a football team? They just added it a few years back, but sometime after that the jesuits pulled out.

[Fightingscot82]

I can't believe Wheeling is still open.

By the skin of their teeth. Another school without anything notable academically speaking. Plus the region has an overabundance of Catholic schools not named Duquesne.

[Fightingscot82]

They had a state prison in Waynesburg until 2003, but I think someone else bought the place.

If I am thinking of the same place, the state was going to sell it to a private prison company but things went south and now its a chemical plant or something like that.

Waynesburg is the county seat, so that comes with some natural size for the town. But the college doubled down on a restricting the student experience about 20 years ago and things haven't gone well. They banned fraternities & sororities and started enforcing the code of conduct off campus. Nothing huge but it made students afraid to do college student things off campus and that stifles students enjoying their time there. Its the upside of having a reputation as a "fun" school.

Academically they aren't any different from any other private school in SWPA. A friend used to call all these schools below Duquesne on the academic hierarchy "Point CarLoche".

[Bart]

Never heard of it…

They had a state prison in Waynesburg until 2003, but I think someone else bought the place.

[IUPNation]

Waynesburg University is on accreditation warning for failing to adequately track student success, which is usually student returns and completion. The article I read says they're not in operational or financial trouble, but most in SWPA know that Waynesburg came out of nowhere investing heavily in marketing and grad programs. I'm not sure if they've seen much ROI. Waynesburg is a small ~1,200 student private Christian school in Greene County, the very bottom left corner of the state.

Never heard of it…

[IUPbigINDIANS]

Waynesburg University is on accreditation warning for failing to adequately track student success, which is usually student returns and completion. The article I read says they're not in operational or financial trouble, but most in SWPA know that Waynesburg came out of nowhere investing heavily in marketing and grad programs. I'm not sure if they've seen much ROI. Waynesburg is a small ~1,200 student private Christian school in Greene County, the very bottom left corner of the state.

Same general area Wheeling is basically in the coffin. It's just not nailed shut yet. The MEC will lose them next.

[Fightingscot82]

Waynesburg University is on accreditation warning for failing to adequately track student success, which is usually student returns and completion. The article I read says they're not in operational or financial trouble, but most in SWPA know that Waynesburg came out of nowhere investing heavily in marketing and grad programs. I'm not sure if they've seen much ROI. Waynesburg is a small ~1,200 student private Christian school in Greene County, the very bottom left corner of the state.

[IUPNation]

They didn't recruit Kobe. He just chose to go to LM when the family came back from Italy. It was as much a choice about academics than anything and he had family in Ardmore.

But imagine all these athletes who stay in Philly and live in Lower Merion and send their kids to Lower Merion who can afford to have the best of everything. They could close Harrison which is the second Township high school and just tee off.

If the PIAA went back to only publics then it would be rich vs poor and there would be unfair advantages.

[iupgroundhog]

I like my way..of course…where a small private recruits and they have to play way up with schools far bigger. The issue is that smaller public schools that refuse to consolidate in the western half of the state can’t compete with small privates. . That is a fact. The big public’s outside Philly can hang with them. Imagine if the really wealthy public’s in the Philly burbs made an effort with sports…Radnor, Conestoga. Lower Merion and Unionville could probably outspend everyone to gain an advantage if they wanted to..but they don’t because the spend their money in the classrooms.

Lower Merion had Kobe annd won a state title and don’t think they couldn’t get every kid of pro athletes going there if they wanted them…they money in that township is a lot. Right now St Joe’s is doing that in foosball.

If you did it my way the recruiting privates would get classified way up and the big hitting eastern public’s could knock half of them out.

The the tiny A schools out west can salvage the town’s pride and roll out pap pap and the (insert year here) WPIAL Champions every year so everyone can feel better.

They didn't recruit Kobe. He just chose to go to LM when the family came back from Italy. It was as much a choice about academics than anything and he had family in Ardmore.

[IUPNation]

That's completely impractical. And it doesn't even eliminate the problem of recruiting. They could just recruit more intensely within any geography that would be established. Plus, it defeats the idea of "private." They should be able to recruit who they want. It doesn't eliminate the inherent unfairness.

I agree with Ship69. Give them a separate classification. To Nation's point that many privates don't engage in the extreme recruiting for sports, allow those schools to apply to the PIAA if they want to but make them prove that they don't do the type of recruiting that has been making the problem worse.

I like my way..of course…where a small private recruits and they have to play way up with schools far bigger. The issue is that smaller public schools that refuse to consolidate in the western half of the state can’t compete with small privates. . That is a fact. The big public’s outside Philly can hang with them. Imagine if the really wealthy public’s in the Philly burbs made an effort with sports…Radnor, Conestoga. Lower Merion and Unionville could probably outspend everyone to gain an advantage if they wanted to..but they don’t because the spend their money in the classrooms.

Lower Merion had Kobe annd won a state title and don’t think they couldn’t get every kid of pro athletes going there if they wanted them…they money in that township is a lot. Right now St Joe’s is doing that in foosball.

If you did it my way the recruiting privates would get classified way up and the big hitting eastern public’s could knock half of them out.

The the tiny A schools out west can salvage the town’s pride and roll out pap pap and the (insert year here) WPIAL Champions every year so everyone can feel better.