PASSHE Institutions Merging

[IUPNation]

Is your first name Thomas? Old quote about what is essential is invisible to the eye. You do a good job defending private schools when it comes to sports. Lots of posters don't like the privates recruiting because they win everything.

I don’t defend them because they are private and I support them more..it’s the exclusionary language used by those to want to separate kids. It’s a triggering thing for me being on the short end of the stick and being told I can’t have the same rights because..

I always said the PIAA rules for classification for private schools should be different criteria to put them in a proper class. Not every private is St Joes. Most of them can’t keep up with public’s..so the schools with money and recruits should play higher and not based on enrollment. A 4A public could have twice as many students as a 4A private with cash. Thats how you balance to make fair but allow for everyone to participate. Separate titles is kind of lame too. Notre Dame can win National Titles right?

Also seeing us believing. How come we can’t see heaven with all our space stuff. How did Jesus fly away? Did he make it into outer space with no space suit. You seriously don’t want me to go down that route..I can ask those questions for hours. I am a priest/pastors worst nightmare.

[Bart]

No. Agnostic.

Seeing is believing to me.

Is your first name Thomas? Old quote about what is essential is invisible to the eye. You do a good job defending private schools when it comes to sports. Lots of posters don't like the privates recruiting because they win everything.

[IUPNation]

So you are an atheist.

No. Agnostic.

Seeing is believing to me.

[Bart]

Kids shouldn't be in a church. That should be an adult pursuit.

I actually didn't think critically about it until I was at IUP.

I noticed nobody was going to hell for eating meat on Fridays during Lent.

It took not even a year in college to realize religion and going to church was for the birds.

Every religion is made up.

If people choose them...fine with me...just keep it from making my life miserable and keep it out of the gubmint.

I don't care what they do in their church.

So you are an atheist.

[IUPNation]

Society and parents constantly impose cultural ideas onto young children. The definition of a marriage or Capitalism is good. Sounds like you got a good education and were taught to think critically in that Catholic school because the indoctrination didn't take. Keep thinking, maybe your ideas will change again.

Kids shouldn't be in a church. That should be an adult pursuit.

I actually didn't think critically about it until I was at IUP.

I noticed nobody was going to hell for eating meat on Fridays during Lent.

It took not even a year in college to realize religion and going to church was for the birds.

Every religion is made up.

If people choose them...fine with me...just keep it from making my life miserable and keep it out of the gubmint.

I don't care what they do in their church.

[Bart]

The PA Cult wants to extend an 8000 dollar tax credit so families can either home school (where they remain uneducated, ignorant and unsocialized) ) or for private school (so they can be professionally indoctrinated with utter nonsense like every nonsensical religion class I had in 12 years of Catholic school).

Why should my tax money go to fund this crap?

Society and parents constantly impose cultural ideas onto young children. The definition of a marriage or Capitalism is good. Sounds like you got a good education and were taught to think critically in that Catholic school because the indoctrination didn't take. Keep thinking, maybe your ideas will change again.

[IUPNation]

The PA Cult wants to extend an 8000 dollar tax credit so families can either home school (where they remain uneducated, ignorant and unsocialized) ) or for private school (so they can be professionally indoctrinated with utter nonsense like every nonsensical religion class I had in 12 years of Catholic school).

Why should my tax money go to fund this crap?

[IUPNation]

Their entire state is in turmoil. Already a net importer of tax dollars, they're basically an entire state of middle Pennsylvania. If not for those federal funds, the entire state would be Centralia.

There are more than one house with WVU flags on them in my neighborhood. Why kids from here go there is puzzling when there are better options in PA.

[Fightingscot82]

Hillbilly High is in turmoil. I mean it's not exactly a prestigious place being a flagship university for a state.....not sure why any kids from PA go there other they they like to drink and burn couches.

https://www.cbsnews.com/pittsburgh/n...4AwLu2IPWR04sw

Their entire state is in turmoil. Already a net importer of tax dollars, they're basically an entire state of middle Pennsylvania. If not for those federal funds, the entire state would be Centralia.

[IUPNation]

Hillbilly High is in turmoil. I mean it's not exactly a prestigious place being a flagship university for a state.....not sure why any kids from PA go there other they they like to drink and burn couches.

https://www.cbsnews.com/pittsburgh/n...4AwLu2IPWR04sw

[Ship69]

The merger should have just been Lock Haven and Mansfield. Mansfield and Clarion have no purpose if you ask me…

At some point they're going to have to cut bait with some of these campuses, just as Penn State needs to flush several of its so-called branch campuses. The demographics and the money don't support the number of schools we have in Pa. now.

[IUPNation]

A friend with good knowledge of Commonwealth's situation says that Mansfield when budgeting counted high school students as full time students when they're actually a heavily discounted & subsidized part time student taking one or two classes. A huge OOPS that someone should have known better and caught sooner.

My issue with these triad plans is that both have a clear anchor campus that is holding back the entire plan. There is no worst case scenario plan to motivate those campuses and there's no path to regaining independence for those campuses who reverse their situation. What happens is Lock Haven suddenly becomes a 5,000 student campus with a growing surplus that could once again function independently? They can't. Those budget surpluses and excess enrollment will have to keep Mansfield afloat. I once jokingly asked someone in Harrisburg that if I win Powerball if I could "buy" Edinboro's independence from Penn West. They laughed and said no, it’permanent.

The merger should have just been Lock Haven and Mansfield. Mansfield and Clarion have no purpose if you ask me…

[iupgroundhog]

A friend with good knowledge of Commonwealth's situation says that Mansfield when budgeting counted high school students as full time students when they're actually a heavily discounted & subsidized part time student taking one or two classes. A huge OOPS that someone should have known better and caught sooner.

My issue with these triad plans is that both have a clear anchor campus that is holding back the entire plan. There is no worst case scenario plan to motivate those campuses and there's no path to regaining independence for those campuses who reverse their situation. What happens is Lock Haven suddenly becomes a 5,000 student campus with a growing surplus that could once again function independently? They can't. Those budget surpluses and excess enrollment will have to keep Mansfield afloat. I once jokingly asked someone in Harrisburg that if I win Powerball if I could "buy" Edinboro's independence from Penn West. They laughed and said no, its permanent.

There are 2 possibilities if you are counting HS students taking 1 or 2 classes as FT students; fraudulent reporting or incompetence.

As far as Commonwealth, the only folks who were initially completely behind the idea were from Mansfield.

[Fightingscot82]

The way I interpret that is that Mansfield is even more dead weight than previously thought. It also sounds like an "error" that someone had to know about all along.

A friend with good knowledge of Commonwealth's situation says that Mansfield when budgeting counted high school students as full time students when they're actually a heavily discounted & subsidized part time student taking one or two classes. A huge OOPS that someone should have known better and caught sooner.

My issue with these triad plans is that both have a clear anchor campus that is holding back the entire plan. There is no worst case scenario plan to motivate those campuses and there's no path to regaining independence for those campuses who reverse their situation. What happens is Lock Haven suddenly becomes a 5,000 student campus with a growing surplus that could once again function independently? They can't. Those budget surpluses and excess enrollment will have to keep Mansfield afloat. I once jokingly asked someone in Harrisburg that if I win Powerball if I could "buy" Edinboro's independence from Penn West. They laughed and said no, its permanent.

[Ship69]

That's good news.

It is and given the amount of money they've absorbed from a cash-strapped PASSHE system they need to show improvement.