PASSHE Institutions Merging

[Fightingscot82]

If you were born in 1982...it makes you a Millennial Elder.

:-)

Correct. Xennial to some. I identify Gen X regardless of my year of birth.

[Ram040506]

Oh I'm familiar as a Gen Xer.

I'm an older millennial. I just can't stand when the boomer generation starts going off on the current generation that they raised. They created the problem, whether they want to believe or not.

[IUPNation]

Oh I'm familiar as a Gen Xer.

If you were born in 1982...it makes you a Millennial Elder.

:-)

[Fightingscot82]

What I've found is that people who refer to "boomers" negatively, just based on being a boomer, usually have no idea what "boomer" means.

Oh I'm familiar as a Gen Xer.

[IUPNation]

"No matter how you get here or where you end up, human beings have this miraculous gift to make that place home."

Creed Bratton

Lol.

The cold showers sucked!!

Surprisingly that was never an issue for the 3 years I lived in Oakland Hall. Bathrooms were always clean too..

[Bart]

So did Gen X and getting hot water for a shower was never guaranteed either.

Esch Hall was 13 years old when I moved there in 1984 and it was the college dorm version of tenement living.

"No matter how you get here or where you end up, human beings have this miraculous gift to make that place home."

Creed Bratton

[IUPNation]

So now it's the "Right Boomer" thing? Whatever. As a boomer I shared restroom facilities with the 49 other guys in my dorm corridor.

So did Gen X and getting hot water for a shower was never guaranteed either.

Esch Hall was 13 years old when I moved there in 1984 and it was the college dorm version of tenement living.

[iupgroundhog]

So now it's the "Right Boomer" thing? Whatever. As a boomer I shared restroom facilities with the 49 other guys in my dorm corridor.

What I've found is that people who refer to "boomers" negatively, just based on being a boomer, usually have no idea what "boomer" means.

[Ship69]

Just want to emphasize the bold. That's all.

So now it's the "Right Boomer" thing? Whatever. As a boomer I shared restroom facilities with the 49 other guys in my dorm corridor.

[Fightingscot82]

Necessary?

Yep. Average debt for a long undergraduate is $33,000 and change. On a 10 year repayment that's about $700 a month. That means for every kid whose parents pay the full freight there's someone who had to borrow over $60k. But Lean Six Sigma and Black Belt doesn't support paying an attractive wage and it also cuts into the quarterly dividend for the board.

[Horror Child]

Then you should be posting a salary range. You get fewer applicants but then you waste less time. If my career path didn't require extensive background checks and clearances, there would have been a few job searches that ended in me punching the hiring manager because we wasted so much of my time and they had an unrealistic salary. And I work in a field that takes some extensive experience to make six figures. If you want to require a college degree for an entry level job, be prepared to pay enough considering the student loan debt necessary to earn that degree.

My favorite exercise is telling Boomers and Gen Xers who spoiled their kids. They did!

Necessary?

[boatcapt]

Then you should be posting a salary range. You get fewer applicants but then you waste less time. If my career path didn't require extensive background checks and clearances, there would have been a few job searches that ended in me punching the hiring manager because we wasted so much of my time and they had an unrealistic salary. And I work in a field that takes some extensive experience to make six figures. If you want to require a college degree for an entry level job, be prepared to pay enough considering the student loan debt necessary to earn that degree.

My favorite exercise is telling Boomers and Gen Xers who spoiled their kids. They did!

Oh the starting salary range was well published. But I guess that they didn't think it really applied to them.

[Fightingscot82]

I would note that the students that vote for no increases in student fees but still want the Disney Grand level amenities are not boomers, they are Generation Z which is often referred to as the entitled generation.

You want a fun exercise, interview a Gen Z for an entry level position and ask them what their minimum salary requirements are!!!! ALWAYS good for a laugh!

Then you should be posting a salary range. You get fewer applicants but then you waste less time. If my career path didn't require extensive background checks and clearances, there would have been a few job searches that ended in me punching the hiring manager because we wasted so much of my time and they had an unrealistic salary. And I work in a field that takes some extensive experience to make six figures. If you want to require a college degree for an entry level job, be prepared to pay enough considering the student loan debt necessary to earn that degree.

My favorite exercise is telling Boomers and Gen Xers who spoiled their kids. They did!

[boatcapt]

Just want to emphasize the bold. That's all.

I would note that the students that vote for no increases in student fees but still want the Disney Grand level amenities are not boomers, they are Generation Z which is often referred to as the entitled generation.

You want a fun exercise, interview a Gen Z for an entry level position and ask them what their minimum salary requirements are!!!! ALWAYS good for a laugh!

[Fightingscot82]

The governor has said that they won't be getting rid of local leadership at the community colleges. I don't think enough of his actual plan is out there to make a final determination. As PASSHE continues to hold the line on tuition, the schools begin to look more and more attractive. More funding from the state would obviously help. If state support for PASSHE dips much lower as a percentage, you might as well give them a "state-related" tag along with Penn State, Pitt, etc. With its outsized influence in Harrisburg, Penn State has succeeded in undermining PASSHE to a great extent with the branch campus system. Our president at Ship has remarked how decentralized the system in Pa. seems compared to the one he worked with in Georgia.

As far as a Ship-Millersvllle merger, I think things would have to get much worse before either school would consider that.

And I'm probably spitting into the wind, but if we've come to the point where college is considered a glorified vo-tech school, we've lost much of the purpose of a college education.

All it takes is another downturn for one of the two schools to run out of reserve cash. That's what really drove the mergers. By and large, Cheyney has been absorbed by West Chester. Nearly all non-student facing functions are run by West Chester.