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Originally posted by Horror Child View Post
The point is there are fewer students now and there will be even fewer students in the foreseeable future. Yet faculty levels remain the same, which is an unnecessary expense.
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Originally posted by Fightingscot82 View Post
That's not necessarily true. Every school has been strategically downsizing. The six consolidated schools plus IUP (really the only ones with significant enrollment drops) have straight up laid off faculty & staff. The consolidations have reduced some professional staff - but I'll argue not much. There are some mid level managers who left because they weren't named the new chief of the conglomerate. The remaining schools have been eliminating positions when it makes sense but through attrition. There have been system-wide retirement incentives for faculty for the last several years. The process to eliminate actively held positions takes about a year. They have to warn the union that they're planning to eliminate X positions, then so many months later name those positions and inform the person in those jobs, then there's a point of no return in case conditions don't improve. I'm not sure how that compares to union jobs in other industries, but that's how this CBA works for professors.
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Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post
I still think the triad creation was the last 'we tried' PR stunt before they ultimately close some doors.
Clarion is a total ghost town these days. It's sad.
Heck, I wonder the same for each of the triad campuses.
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Originally posted by Horror Child View Post
Maybe rate per mile isn't the right what of analyzing tolls. Interchanges cost a lot more to build to maintain than roadway and there are a lot more of them in southeast and southwest. Bridges are more costly to build and maintain and rodaway.
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Originally posted by boatcapt View Post
I wonder what % of students at Clarion are athletes? Also wonder what percentage of the Majors offered there have a student enrollment in the single digits?
Heck, I wonder the same for each of the triad campuses.
Athletes are about 20% of Clarion students.
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Originally posted by Fightingscot82 View Post
If majors are single digits it's because they've already been discontinued and the remaining students are being taught out. Harrisburg has set some pretty stringent minimum standards for program excellent enrollment.
Athletes are about 20% of Clarion students.
I think sone schools like IUP should get out of that business. We don’t need 14 schools training future teachers despite a teacher shortage. However the state could designate Clarion as a campus highly dedicated to educating students to be teachers. They could invest funds to make it affordable to major in Education there and the state starts churning out teachers to fill the staffing shortages as boomers retire. That could be Clarion’s saving grace.
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Originally posted by IUPNation View Post
What is the number of Education students (teachers in training) at each school?
I think sone schools like IUP should get out of that business. We don’t need 14 schools training future teachers despite a teacher shortage. However the state could designate Clarion as a campus highly dedicated to educating students to be teachers. They could invest funds to make it affordable to major in Education there and the state starts churning out teachers to fill the staffing shortages as boomers retire. That could be Clarion’s saving grace.
There is an element to all this that relies on market-based dynamics. It doesn't make sense to remove that from the equation.Last edited by iupgroundhog; 10-14-2023, 08:53 AM.
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Originally posted by IUPNation View Post
It easier to charge higher rates where the traffic is heavier. The Turnpike is also a commuter road in SEPA. Again we pay, Cletus receives.
By the same token, the "I-80 corridor" politicians were blowin' smoke when they said that people in their constituencies wouldn't be able to go to work if the interstate was tolled. They would have and they would have contributed to paying their fair share.
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Originally posted by iupgroundhog View Post
The state's goal is to maximize revenue. Demand for using the Turnpike is highly inelastic. It won't change based on the price of using it. In the Phila. region people have to use the Turnpike to get to work in a timely manner or do other things efficiently. So, Southeastern Pennsylvanians are exploited. That's the way it works.
By the same token, the "I-80 corridor" politicians were blowin' smoke when they said that people in their constituencies wouldn't be able to go to work if the interstate was tolled. They would have and they would have contributed to paying their fair share.
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Originally posted by Bart View Post
Everything is more expensive in southeastern Pa.
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Originally posted by IUPNation View Post
What is the number of Education students (teachers in training) at each school?
I think sone schools like IUP should get out of that business. We don’t need 14 schools training future teachers despite a teacher shortage. However the state could designate Clarion as a campus highly dedicated to educating students to be teachers. They could invest funds to make it affordable to major in Education there and the state starts churning out teachers to fill the staffing shortages as boomers retire. That could be Clarion’s saving grace.
Elementary education is still very popular, usually top 3 or top 5 at all the schools. Pretty sure business administration is the most popular systemwide. At SRU its Exercise Science (basically pre-PT), Safety Science, and Elementary Education.
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