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Lock Haven should look to make this a permanent hire. Phenomenal leader of men and has great experience on the offensive and defensive side of the ball. I'm sure the players already love him and would run through a brick wall for Coach Hubbard
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I don't mean to prolong it, lol. I agree that it is a little weird in that most of the D2 teams are located in a few states and in 2 conferences. However, things are not always perfect. You do have an adequate number of FH teams competing in the other NCAA classifications so it wouldn't really be fair to leave D2 FH schools out of the national picture. Overall, between all 3 divisions, there are a lot of teams and that's why NC's are held by the NCAA.Originally posted by CALUPA69 View Post
I don't believe I said farce at any time and I did say that the players should be proud of their accomplishments. Since we can't seem to agree on the nature of this discussion, I'll leave it at that.
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I don't believe I said farce at any time and I did say that the players should be proud of their accomplishments. Since we can't seem to agree on the nature of this discussion, I'll leave it at that.Originally posted by Ship69 View Post
Well, obviously the P5 has not felt that way. I should have added that the current football playoff has largely been the province of the P5 conferences plus Notre Dame, so you basically eliminate about half of the 130 teams from consideration every year. Since 2014, how often have the same few teams competed for the national championship. We proclaim the Super Bowl winning NFL team World Champions every season, even though virtually no other nation (outside of Canada with different rules) extensively plays American football. If you think 50 is some sort of magic number (so then you'd have three leagues?). Whatever. As jrshooter said, we've played by the rules and we ain't giving the banners back. If you think it's a farce, then have your school field a team and beat us.
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Well, obviously the P5 has not felt that way. I should have added that the current football playoff has largely been the province of the P5 conferences plus Notre Dame, so you basically eliminate about half of the 130 teams from consideration every year. Since 2014, how often have the same few teams competed for the national championship. We proclaim the Super Bowl winning NFL team World Champions every season, even though virtually no other nation (outside of Canada with different rules) extensively plays American football. If you think 50 is some sort of magic number (so then you'd have three leagues?). Whatever. As jrshooter said, we've played by the rules and we ain't giving the banners back. If you think it's a farce, then have your school field a team and beat us.Originally posted by CALUPA69 View PostThis has nothing to do with the teams or players. It has to do with the absurdity of the NCAA ( nothing unique there) recognizing a sport worthy of NC status that basically is simply two leagues and assorted others. If a group of 36 schools decided to form frisbee golf teams and convinced the NCAA to recognize it as a NC sport, I'd have the same objection unless 50 plus teams were involved. I think everyone aside from the P5 and NCAA realize that a 4 team playoff in a sport with 130 teams is absurd and an amazing lost opportunity to institute December Madness and make even more $$$ than they already do.
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This has nothing to do with the teams or players. It has to do with the absurdity of the NCAA ( nothing unique there) recognizing a sport worthy of NC status that basically is simply two leagues and assorted others. If a group of 36 schools decided to form frisbee golf teams and convinced the NCAA to recognize it as a NC sport, I'd have the same objection unless 50 plus teams were involved. I think everyone aside from the P5 and NCAA realize that a 4 team playoff in a sport with 130 teams is absurd and an amazing lost opportunity to institute December Madness and make even more $$$ than they already do.Originally posted by Ship69 View Postit's a recognized NCAA sport
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To me, if you come out on top of all the programs in the country that are playing Division II hockey and it's a recognized NCAA sport, you're the national champion at that level. NCAA FBS football has about 130 teams, but they'll declare a national champion after a four-team playoff in which three of the largest conferences are not competing and one conference has been awarded two slots. For years they declared a "mythical" national champion without any playoff at all.Originally posted by Ram040506 View Post
Think your reading this as an attack on FH, when we are merely taking a position that the NC moniker for a D2 champion is a farce considering the under representation of teams participating in this division. Simply stating there shouldn't be a D2 field hockey and all that have it should be forced to contend in D3 or D1 depending on how you are funded at each respective institution.
Also, it's Shepherd. We already have enough sponsored sports as is, I personally don't think Shepherd needs anymore sports. If Shepherd added Field Hockey it would be strictly to increase enrollment. Field Hockey is an enrollment booster at 99.9% of schools.
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That would be nice for him. Seems like a stand up guy and wish him all the best.Originally posted by shipfbfan1 View PostWith Frostburg State HC leaving to become the HC at FCS South Utah University there is strong word that Kelling could be heading back to FSU as their next HC as he is beloved by the players and the community.
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With Frostburg State HC leaving to become the HC at FCS South Utah University there is strong word that Kelling could be heading back to FSU as their next HC as he is beloved by the players and the community.
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I agree. I think Weibel does an excellent job considering the built-in limitations.Originally posted by Fightingscot82 View PostThis year's debacle notwithstanding, Weibel has been highly regarded on this board and elsewhere. Dude plays with a much smaller deck of cards than others in the conference. He's recruited well for years in spite of regular staff & roster turnover.
I don't know if he'd succeed at Lock Haven, and I don't know if he's even interested in the job. But there is an optics problem there. If the Lock Haven football alumni base is mad right now about what happened to Kelling, as we have heard, it would look bad to replace a guy who just went 1-10 with a guy who just went 0-11.
I know there are only so many head coaching jobs out there, so there will always be applicants. But based on what we've seen lately, I wonder who'd really want this job. We'll find out soon enough, I suppose.
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This year's debacle notwithstanding, Weibel has been highly regarded on this board and elsewhere. Dude plays with a much smaller deck of cards than others in the conference. He's recruited well for years in spite of regular staff & roster turnover. However, he used to be the lowest paid coach by a mile and was in on several searches. He's now much better paid so maybe he is staying put.
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True. I meant half of the good players. I wonder if it is best they just cut the programs.Originally posted by Cavalier 1 View Post
Not sure it's half, but, it's a decent amount. Maybe 10-15 guys. Maybe 10% is the price of doing business when your losing. LHU is entering portal mania also.
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Not sure it's half, but, it's a decent amount. Maybe 10-15 guys. Maybe 10% is the price of doing business when your losing. LHU is entering portal mania also.Originally posted by RockNation View Post
If this is true, wow
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If this is true, wowOriginally posted by RockNation View Post
WEIBEL!?
He just had half his team hit the transfer portal and kids publicly have said they hate the guy.
Just merge.
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WEIBEL!?Originally posted by Fightingscot82 View Post
None of this will be public info unless there's a leak from the committee or they do open forums. In years past, Chris Weibel was a frequent name mentioned. What about Paul Darragh?
He just had half his team hit the transfer portal and kids publicly have said they hate the guy.
Just merge.
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