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Maybe I'm less concerned about this loss to ESU than I should be. A loss is a loss is a loss and losses do not help when it comes time for PO rankings, as we know. However, it is not a divisional loss and I think the West Division championship game will pit IUP and SRU against each other, as usual. The SRU passing attack from their QB to Sheets is pretty awesome, or at least it looked that way in the time I was watching SRU-WCU yesterday. But Sheets only caught 2 out of 20 of Long's completions. The rest were spread around. to other receivers. Sheets' 2 receptions averaged 61.5 yards. Those were the 2 plays I saw before I turned it off. IUP's secondary is also awesome. It should be an interesting matchup.
SRU QB Long is really good. Sheets is really good. SRU is deep everywhere. But enough about SRU. Regardless of yesterday's result, IUP is still loaded. They have to develop as the season goes on. What I am encouraged by is that Ashland was very competitive with Ferris State yesterday and IUP, aside from the special teams mistakes, defeated Ashland handily in terms of stats.
IUP has played 2 really tough games to start out the season. Regarding the problems on the OL, it could be that IUP has just run into 2 really good defenses at this point. I think the next 2 weeks are going to look a lot different.
I think IUP can grow as the season progresses. Also, I wouldn't call them a young team by any measure; however, I count only 6 players on the roster who are in their last year of eligibility. 4 of the 6 are starters. I think the team can develop well beyond what we've seen so far.
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Originally posted by CUlater View Post
Not going to rub salt in the wounds, so I’m not going to comment on this game at all, but you can’t get away with a bold post like this and not acknowledge how wrong you were. To be fair, I was only mostly right as I saw this as a dog fight but thought IUP would still escape with the victory. I’ve watched football in this conference for a long time, maybe think twice before prematurely telling me how wrong I am?
I still don’t see East Stroudsburg winning the East. We’ll see, and I’m sure you’ll save this somewhere and wait for that to happen because you must have a lot of time on your hands. The biggest thing I was wrong about is how good IUP is, or isn’t. They’re just not that good right now.
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Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post
That missed extra point got lost in the shuffle of Math Gate. But, that missed extra point looms pretty large in a one-point loss.
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Originally posted by CUlater View Post
Not going to rub salt in the wounds, so I’m not going to comment on this game at all, but you can’t get away with a bold post like this and not acknowledge how wrong you were. To be fair, I was only mostly right as I saw this as a dog fight but thought IUP would still escape with the victory. I’ve watched football in this conference for a long time, maybe think twice before prematurely telling me how wrong I am?
Originally posted by iupgroundhog View Post
Didn't you tell us a couple days ago that the concerns from the rest of us were unwarranted and IUP would blow out ESU?
If I wanted to take the time, I could go back on any one of you and give you **** about a prediction gone wrong. Any one of you.
I mean, crap, I picked Ship AND IUP to win this weekend. Jump my ass while you're at it.
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Originally posted by IUPNation View Post
Well his last sentence was spot on. IUP did beat itself.
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Originally posted by IUPNation View Post
Well his last sentence was spot on. IUP did beat itself.
Lots of talent. Poor coaching. Frustrated fan base.
We're going to learn a lot next weekend. If the team has strong leaders, maybe something good will come out of Tort's math issues. If it doesn't, this train could come off the rails quickly.
An 0-2 Ship team (that just lost in freaking Greensburg) is up next. The trip near Butler is approaching. If they want a season, Ship best pay the price this weekend.
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Originally posted by EyeoftheHawk View Post
Lost in all of this is how poorly they played for much of the day yesterday. This could also easily be an 0-2 team. They certainly haven’t looked like a team that’s going places so even if they do show up ready to play next weekend it’s far from a guarantee that they’ll win. I think it’s time to come to the realization that this team just may not be that good. Teams capable of making a playoff run beat teams like East Stroudsburg by 2-3 scores at home.
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Originally posted by CUlater View Post
Not going to rub salt in the wounds, so I’m not going to comment on this game at all, but you can’t get away with a bold post like this and not acknowledge how wrong you were. To be fair, I was only mostly right as I saw this as a dog fight but thought IUP would still escape with the victory. I’ve watched football in this conference for a long time, maybe think twice before prematurely telling me how wrong I am?
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Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post
We'll see but I have my doubts. I'm curious if this staff can keep the team together after that disaster. Think lack of confidence in the leader type thing.
I wouldn't be surprised if IUP wins next week but I also wouldn't be surprised if they don't show up (Edinboro 2021 or Ship 2018). It's happened twice now under Tort in the hangover week.
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Originally posted by EyeoftheHawk View Post
This matchup is significantly different than Ashland was. I’m seeing an awful lot of love for an ESU team that was 4-7 last year that didn’t beat a single good team. Ashland is far superior to ESU across the board and IUP is coming in a little more rested. If IUP doesn’t put this one away by the third quarter I’ll be surprised. This is also a pretty untested QB ESU is bringing to town and he’s not facing anything close to what he saw against Pace. I expect at least two pics. Anyone who followed Tobias in high school knows that despite the big numbers he racked up he was prone to interceptions. Something to keep an eye on.
ESU does have a credible defense, but it’s not enough to keep IUP’s total low enough to leave Indiana with a win. IUP will have to beat itself (like almost happened last week).
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Originally posted by Ship69 View PostOne of the most bizarre endings I've ever seen to a game, and I've been watching football for a long time. So now a Ship team headed rapidly for nowheresville gets to travel to Indiana next week to face what probably will be a totally amped-up IUP team. Gee, thanks Tort.
I wouldn't be surprised if IUP wins next week but I also wouldn't be surprised if they don't show up (Edinboro 2021 or Ship 2018). It's happened twice now under Tort in the hangover week.
Or, the lightbulb goes off and the fire gets lit. Perhaps they were reading too many articles about who great they allegedly were. Most are going to lose a game. Not many go undefeated.
It's up to them now. Lose again, and, well, it's not up to them any longer.
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Originally posted by EyeoftheHawk View Post
Lost in all of this is how poorly they played for much of the day yesterday. This could also easily be an 0-2 team. They certainly haven’t looked like a team that’s going places so even if they do show up ready to play next weekend it’s far from a guarantee that they’ll win. I think it’s time to come to the realization that this team just may not be that good. Teams capable of making a playoff run beat teams like East Stroudsburg by 2-3 scores at home.Last edited by IUPNation; 09-10-2023, 06:28 AM.
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Originally posted by EyeoftheHawk View Post
Lost in all of this is how poorly they played for much of the day yesterday. This could also easily be an 0-2 team. They certainly haven’t looked like a team that’s going places so even if they do show up ready to play next weekend it’s far from a guarantee that they’ll win. I think it’s time to come to the realization that this team just may not be that good. Teams capable of making a playoff run beat teams like East Stroudsburg by 2-3 scores at home.
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Originally posted by ironmaniup View Post
Passed history has been that Tort’s teams play horrible the week after a bad loss. Think losing to Edinboro after the Cal punt block loss - another coaching disaster I might add.
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