THE IUP Football Thread

[Boro33]

Sounds a lot like Trevor and Cody Harris, two Edinboro QBs from a decade ago or more.

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[Iupgh]

So he doesn’t know how to win with class. Duly noted.

What goes around will eventually come around and hopefully you Swifties will take what you dish out.

Well said Nation, I got more respect for a guy that chirps all the time than one who talks smack only when he up…#30 SU great player no doubt but very unlikeable that’s for sure.

[Iupgh]

Welcome to the first edition of Buying or Selling.

Today's item: the secondary

No group got more scrutiny this year (and last). They had some terrific games this year. They had some horrific games this year, too.

The pros:

* Still very young. This year was a true freshman, several true sophomores, and, board favorite (No. 11) Taylor (a junior).

* Very experienced group heading in to 2023

* Very athletic and fast

* Tort thinks very highly of this group

The cons:

* Remeber that game in Erie?

* Remember the game 72 hours ago?

* Lots of blown coverages this year -- especially early.

* Some killer (stupid) personal fouls at extremely bad times ... happened a lot, actually.

* Good QBs in dry conditions shredded them this year (ESU, Gannon, Shepherd Rd2).



The top 9 DBs return in 2023. That's a lot. But, is this a group that needs some upgrade this off-season, or, are you comfortable with a year older version in 2023 (when the league will have a lot less big time QBs)?

Secondary. Are you buying or selling what the CO-OP shirt slinger is selling?

The secondary is fine numbers wise, one more transfer corner in order to move Taylor to Safety is there wish list.

[EyeoftheHawk]

Welcome to the first edition of Buying or Selling.

Today's item: the secondary

No group got more scrutiny this year (and last). They had some terrific games this year. They had some horrific games this year, too.

The pros:

* Still very young. This year was a true freshman, several true sophomores, and, board favorite (No. 11) Taylor (a junior).

* Very experienced group heading in to 2023

* Very athletic and fast

* Tort thinks very highly of this group

The cons:

* Remeber that game in Erie?

* Remember the game 72 hours ago?

* Lots of blown coverages this year -- especially early.

* Some killer (stupid) personal fouls at extremely bad times ... happened a lot, actually.

* Good QBs in dry conditions shredded them this year (ESU, Gannon, Shepherd Rd2).



The top 9 DBs return in 2023. That's a lot. But, is this a group that needs some upgrade this off-season, or, are you comfortable with a year older version in 2023 (when the league will have a lot less big time QBs)?

Secondary. Are you buying or selling what the CO-OP shirt slinger is selling?

I think this group is fine as is, but I’ll caution and say they won’t be as good if the holes aren’t filled on the D-Line. A secondary can look better than it is when there’s pressure on the QB, and I think we saw some of that this season. That said, this will be a very experienced group next year with no shortage of talent.

Regarding Taylor, he can be a great player if he just focuses on playing football and doesn’t get caught up in the other nonsense. In my opinion, it was a wash this year in terms of his positive contributions versus negative. That’s not good enough for someone with his talent. He needs to learn it’s a “we” game and not a “me” game. If he can mature and do that the entire group will be better. If he can’t, I’d rather not see him out there.

[IUPNation]

Welcome to the first edition of Buying or Selling.

Today's item: the secondary

No group got more scrutiny this year (and last). They had some terrific games this year. They had some horrific games this year, too.

The pros:

* Still very young. This year was a true freshman, several true sophomores, and, board favorite (No. 11) Taylor (a junior).

* Very experienced group heading in to 2023

* Very athletic and fast

* Tort thinks very highly of this group

The cons:

* Remeber that game in Erie?

* Remember the game 72 hours ago?

* Lots of blown coverages this year -- especially early.

* Some killer (stupid) personal fouls at extremely bad times ... happened a lot, actually.

* Good QBs in dry conditions shredded them this year (ESU, Gannon, Shepherd Rd2).



The top 9 DBs return in 2023. That's a lot. But, is this a group that needs some upgrade this off-season, or, are you comfortable with a year older version in 2023 (when the league will have a lot less big time QBs)?

Secondary. Are you buying or selling what the CO-OP shirt slinger is selling?

I think having a shut down secondary at this level is more a luxury than a reality. You shut down passing more by getting to the QB’s….

[IUPbigINDIANS]

Welcome to the first edition of Buying or Selling.

Today's item: the secondary

No group got more scrutiny this year (and last). They had some terrific games this year. They had some horrific games this year, too.

The pros:

* Still very young. This year was a true freshman, several true sophomores, and, board favorite (No. 11) Taylor (a junior).

* Very experienced group heading in to 2023

* Very athletic and fast

* Tort thinks very highly of this group

The cons:

* Remeber that game in Erie?

* Remember the game 72 hours ago?

* Lots of blown coverages this year -- especially early.

* Some killer (stupid) personal fouls at extremely bad times ... happened a lot, actually.

* Good QBs in dry conditions shredded them this year (ESU, Gannon, Shepherd Rd2).



The top 9 DBs return in 2023. That's a lot. But, is this a group that needs some upgrade this off-season, or, are you comfortable with a year older version in 2023 (when the league will have a lot less big time QBs)?

Secondary. Are you buying or selling what the CO-OP shirt slinger is selling?

[IUPbigINDIANS]

So he doesn’t know how to win with class. Duly noted.

What goes around will eventually come around and hopefully you Swifties will take what you dish out.

It's typically not the guys on the actual offense or defense that start most of that stuff. It's usually the 'along for the ride' dudes on the bench.

Those are all the special teams 'lit' dudes. That's why there are so many stupid flags on kickoffs. They never shut up and can't grasp the whistle means to stop.

That's the No. 1 reason I wish we could get a kicker who could routinely bury kickoffs for touchbacks. It would save IUP a personal foul just about every week (not to mention a couple injuries).

[IUPNation]

If you all would've stopped #30 he probably wouldn't have talked so much. 3 TDs does make one a little more chirpy.

So he doesn’t know how to win with class. Duly noted.

What goes around will eventually come around and hopefully you Swifties will take what you dish out.

[Ram040506]

#7 for Shepherd a real Ass hat, dude was chirping all game and after…His own team was telling him to shut up kinda funny. Thought Shepherd overall discipline and class was subpar #30 another dude that needs a talking to. Looks like big Ernie has minimal if any control…just sayin

Right... if that's the case than no coach has any control... just sayin

[Ram Tough]

#7 for Shepherd a real Ass hat, dude was chirping all game and after…His own team was telling him to shut up kinda funny. Thought Shepherd overall discipline and class was subpar #30 another dude that needs a talking to. Looks like big Ernie has minimal if any control…just sayin

If you all would've stopped #30 he probably wouldn't have talked so much. 3 TDs does make one a little more chirpy.

[Fightingscot82]

Haven't seen a ton on him. From the measurables, he is smaller than his brother. I think he's generously listed at 6', while Tyson is legitimately 6'2", but I've heard the younger brother is closer to 5'10". Arm talent is tough to compare, but doesn't appear to have the zip his brother did either. I hope we get him, since he's got familiarity with the program and the offense from high school certainly translates to what the Rams run. Kid can grow too, work ethic in that family is top notch so I'd expect the younger brother to be in the same mold from that perspective.

Sounds a lot like Trevor and Cody Harris, two Edinboro QBs from a decade ago or more.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

#7 for Shepherd a real Ass hat, dude was chirping all game and after…His own team was telling him to shut up kinda funny. Thought Shepherd overall discipline and class was subpar #30 another dude that needs a talking to. Looks like big Ernie has minimal if any control…just sayin

We have a couple fools, too. Not as many as most years, however.

[Iupgh]

Haven't seen a ton on him. From the measurables, he is smaller than his brother. I think he's generously listed at 6', while Tyson is legitimately 6'2", but I've heard the younger brother is closer to 5'10". Arm talent is tough to compare, but doesn't appear to have the zip his brother did either. I hope we get him, since he's got familiarity with the program and the offense from high school certainly translates to what the Rams run. Kid can grow too, work ethic in that family is top notch so I'd expect the younger brother to be in the same mold from that perspective.

Where else would he go, he’s no FCS guy that’s for sure..

[Iupgh]

Just a guess ... but my money would be on No. 20?

He acted like a fool after the first game.

#7 for Shepherd a real Ass hat, dude was chirping all game and after…His own team was telling him to shut up kinda funny. Thought Shepherd overall discipline and class was subpar #30 another dude that needs a talking to. Looks like big Ernie has minimal if any control…just sayin

[IUPNation]

Tort took a massive freshmen class last year (31) and just three transfers (all D2 transfers). I think 25 or 26 redshirted this year.

He said tonight that had others (SRU was mentioned) been taking more HS players last year that they'd have never got all those guys.

Of course, now the question is how many can you keep here. Certainly, they probably have a couple that won't or didn't work out. I'll be curious to see how many of the 31 are here for Spring ball. If retention is high, that's an incredible building block for the years to come.

He said tonight they'll obviously hit the portal for some OL and DL this winter. But, as a whole, IUP isn't going to be a 'portal program'.

It was probably the best Hawk Talk of the year tonight. They took some crowd questions that were more pointed than we are used to on the show.

Tort is getting very good at spinning answers (not to Joe Lombardi's level but nonetheless). The crowd asked about the conditions of Miller, poor attendance at both playoff games, etc.

As some know, Lombardi is a very polished interviewer and can be asked a direct question about why grass is green and answer it with a 3-minute sermon about the type of soap he uses to wash his car. At the end of 3 minutes it sounds incredible but you realize he totally ignored the question.

Anyway, Tort said Pietropola is not coming back. That could change but as of now he's done. Dylan Grubbs likely is returning in the Fall. McClean Dojoha (sp) is returning in the Fall but has to sit out the spring as he's almost out of semesters.

Jack asked about the mythical Danielson DL from TJ. Tort didn't say much other than he'll join the team in the Spring.

Tort also said if his players enter the portal they can basically pack up and leave. They aren't taking them back. I beleive that for Average Joe. We'll see when a star enters. But, stars get treated differently. That's just reality.

My question: WTF was that?