Scott Wooster named GVSU Head Coach

[KleShreen]

No this was a kid that failed out of MSU complained about the coach beat a girl then used GVSU for a season to try and get to the NFL. Same as you do to Ferris players everyday. Just love the high standards you think only GVSU has. Joke.

You're ignoring the entire discussion that was being had to instead go off the rails on something entirely unrelated and attack a kid who ended up having zero issues at GVSU. You should be ashamed of yourself.

[SVSUAlum]

This has literally nothing to do with his academics. Are you just trying to use this as an opportunity to denigrate a kid who improved his personal life throughout his college career? It is pretty clear you are not actually interested in having any kind of discussion in good faith here about academic standards. So I guess we're done. You should be ashamed of yourself.

No this was a kid that failed out of MSU complained about the coach beat a girl then used GVSU for a season to try and get to the NFL. Same as you do to Ferris players everyday. Just love the high standards you think only GVSU has. Joke.

[KleShreen]

Here ya go, one of the fine citizens and high standard of GVSU. Why you guys get on Ferris so much about their transfers is crazy.

https://www.woodtv.com/ncaa/ncaa-foo...ging-path/amp/

This has literally nothing to do with his academics. Are you just trying to use this as an opportunity to denigrate a kid who improved his personal life throughout his college career? It is pretty clear you are not actually interested in having any kind of discussion in good faith here about academic standards. So I guess we're done. You should be ashamed of yourself. Sure hope nobody tries to use a mistake in your kid's past to call him a terrible representation for wherever he plays football during his career.

[SVSUAlum]

What is your infatuation with Hunter Rison? He obviously met the NCAA D2 standards for transfer. GV took him. I don't know what his academics were. But obviously he met the NCAA D2 requirements or he wouldn't have been allowed to transfer to a D2 school. I have no idea what his college GPA was, so I have no idea where he fell in the typical GVSU transfer admissions standards. Maybe he was a special talent board admission. No idea. You seem to have an awful lot of knowledge about his academics, though. Care to share?

Here ya go, one of the fine citizens and high standard of GVSU. Why you guys get on Ferris so much about their transfers is crazy.

https://www.woodtv.com/ncaa/ncaa-foo...ging-path/amp/

[KleShreen]

See now you are full of crap. My boy plays for Hillsdale and NO ONE is getting let into that school. They don’t have a special talent policy anyplace. You picked the wrong school to try to make as an example. You make up stuff and no nothing I am sure about GVSU either. Hunter Rison is all anyone has to say about your academic standards.

What is your infatuation with Hunter Rison? He obviously met the NCAA D2 standards for transfer. GV took him. I don't know what his academics were. But obviously he met the NCAA D2 requirements or he wouldn't have been allowed to transfer to a D2 school. I have no idea what his college GPA was, so I have no idea where he fell in the typical GVSU transfer admissions standards. Maybe he was a special talent board admission. No idea. You seem to have an awful lot of knowledge about his academics, though. Care to share?

[SVSUAlum]

Correct. I don't understand why you are not getting this. I think you are conflating two different things.

The minimum standard to play D2 football is a 2.0 core-class GPA and a sliding scale ACT/SAT score. That is the same for every D2 school.

Schools themselves also have their own academic standards. Hillsdale's typical freshman class has a median GPA of over 3.8 and an ACT/SAT in the 90th percent tile. They still admit recruits who have a 2.5 GPA and a 23 ACT via their special talent admissions board who wouldn't otherwise get in to the school normally. SVSU's typical freshman class has a median GPA around 3.5 and an ACT around 28. They still admit recruits who have a 2.1 GPA and a 22 ACT via their special talent admissions board who wouldn't otherwise get in to the school normally. Every school does this for special talent student-athletes. Some schools use it for 25 recruits a year. Some schools use it for 1 recruit a year. Some schools have a cap on the number of special exceptions they will make. Some schools don't.

See now you are full of crap. My boy plays for Hillsdale and NO ONE is getting let into that school. They don’t have a special talent policy anyplace. You picked the wrong school to try to make as an example. You make up stuff and know nothing I am sure about GVSU either. Hunter Rison is all anyone has to say about your academic standards.

[KleShreen]

The picture of your standards is an email reply from your head coach spliced into the website sharing your schools info. Yes it is the NCAA minimum same thing every school has to follow and there is NO special talent exception below this standard.

Correct. I don't understand why you are not getting this. I think you are conflating two different things.

The minimum standard to play D2 football is a 2.0 core-class GPA and a sliding scale ACT/SAT score. That is the same for every D2 school.

Schools themselves also have their own academic standards. Hillsdale's typical freshman class has a median GPA of over 3.8 and an ACT/SAT in the 90th percent tile. They still admit recruits who have a 2.5 GPA and a 23 ACT via their special talent admissions board who wouldn't otherwise get in to the school normally. SVSU's typical freshman class has a median GPA around 3.5 and an ACT around 28. They still admit recruits who have a 2.1 GPA and a 22 ACT via their special talent admissions board who wouldn't otherwise get in to the school normally. Every school does this for special talent student-athletes. Some schools use it for 25 recruits a year. Some schools use it for 1 recruit a year. Some schools have a cap on the number of special exceptions they will make. Some schools don't.

A football recruit with the D2 minimum 2.0 GPA and sliding scale SAT/ACT might be admitted to one school via the special talent board and not another. Hillsdale probably isn't going to take a kid with a 2.05 GPA and the SAT/ACT sliding scale minimum. Ferris might. GVSU might. SVSU might. Or one of them might. Or two of them might.

[mtsax305]

You could very well be correct, maybe Postma didn’t apply but I know he applied for the SVSU job so I would think he would want the GVSU job. I wouldn’t be shocked if he left for Wayne State. If the administration puts some money into that program it could become huge. Great location to recruit the best talent in the state.

Maybe the money saved from not paying an over-tenured coach top dollar will allow some cash to spread to other parts of the team lol

[SVSUAlum]

Those are the NCAA D2 minimum requirements lol:

The picture of your standards is an email reply from your head coach spliced into the website sharing your schools info. Yes it is the NCAA minimum same thing every school has to follow and there is NO special talent exception below this standard.

[SVSUAlum]

Could you do some digging and find something to counter Kle’s claim about the amount of exceptions we have? This isn’t relevant

Nope just like we can’t find out how many Ferris has or Davenport. Not sure GVSU is not doing anything everyone else is doing. I am sure your WR Rison got there on his academics.

[KleShreen]

Funny a little google digging shows the standard to play football at GVSU: Here are the high academic standards to play football.
820 on the SAT
2.0 GPA

Those are the NCAA D2 minimum requirements lol they're the same for every D2 school:

If you enroll full-time at a Division II school, and you have not met all the Division II academic requirements, you may not compete in your first year. However, if you meet the requirements to be a partial qualifier, you may practice and receive an athletics scholarship in your first year at college. To be a partial qualifier, you must graduate high school and meet ALL the following requirements:

• Complete 16 core courses:
  • Three years of English.
  • Two years of math (Algebra 1 or higher).
  • Two years of natural or physical science (including one year of lab science if your high school offers it).
  • Three additional years of English, math or natural or physical science
  • Two years of social science
  • Four additional years of English, math, natural or physical science, social science, foreign language, comparative religion or philosophy
  • Earn at least a 2.0 GPA in your core courses.
• Earn an SAT combined score or ACT sum score matching your core-course GPA on the Division II sliding scale.

[yote_7]

Funny a little google digging shows the standard to play football at GVSU: Here are the high academic standards to play football.
820 on the SAT
2.0 GPA

Could you do some digging and find something to counter Kle’s claim about the amount of exceptions we have? This isn’t relevant

[SVSUAlum]

Funny a little google digging shows the standard to play football at GVSU: Here are the high academic standards to play football.
820 on the SAT
2.0 GPA

[BeachinLaker]

The progression of academic standards has been crazy to think about. When I graduated high school, I was dead in the middle of the GPA and ACT scores that GVSU accepted for the typical freshman class, and now I would easily be at the bottom of the class lol. I got accepted to Michigan and now they'd laugh at my GPA and ACT and use it as the bottom of a bird cage.

Yeah, I remember GVSU’s being 3.6 in the teens and 3.5 in the aughts. In the late 90s, the minimum requirement for entry was something like 2.7. We’re definitely not in the early 2000s anymore. We’ve gone from a backwoods regional to a major economic driver in West Michigan.

[KleShreen]

This is a policy at every state university in the country. Doesn’t show anything. GVSU has the same policy. Every university probably used the same law firms writing of it. So we are to believe that every GVSU football player got into the university based on their academic profile? Don’t be a joke.

That's not at all what I said lol. You are now making things up. Go back and read. I literally said every school in the country has this, and you argued it because I didn't show D2 examples. Now I've shown D2 examples, and you're still arguing, even though you now agree with me? What are we doing here lol. I said some schools use this criteria much more than other schools, because some schools have limits on such exceptions and some schools do not. You can go ahead and not believe me if you want, I don't care lol. GV uses it every year. SV uses it every year. Ferris uses it every year. Every school uses it every year. Some schools use it 20 times a year. Some schools use it two times a year.