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8-2 is going to put Commerce in a bind. 9-2 generally gets a team in, if Dixie pulls off the upset and finishes 9-2 Commerce is in serious trouble. If the NSIC finishes with 3 9-2 or better teams Commerce needs help still. The only thing they have going for them us maybe their SOS. They need to beat their next 3 opponents convincingly, and need to finish above Angelo in the standings or 1 slot behind them.
This would not be the first year that a team has beaten another team and been the one sitting out of the playoffs. The committee values playing 11 games, with a 9-2 record it is an automatic leg up over 8-2.I have fat thumbs sorry for typos!
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Originally posted by Boohaha View Post8-2 is going to put Commerce in a bind. 9-2 generally gets a team in, if Dixie pulls off the upset and finishes 9-2 Commerce is in serious trouble. If the NSIC finishes with 3 9-2 or better teams Commerce needs help still. The only thing they have going for them us maybe their SOS. They need to beat their next 3 opponents convincingly, and need to finish above Angelo in the standings or 1 slot behind them.
This would not be the first year that a team has beaten another team and been the one sitting out of the playoffs. The committee values playing 11 games, with a 9-2 record it is an automatic leg up over 8-2.
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Originally posted by AngeloFan View PostNot sure why you keep harping on this. For regional rankings a win is a win. Unless things have changed, margin of victory does not figure in.
Last year 8-2 Midwestern sat, 2 years before that 8-2 ENMU and 8-2 Humbolt along with 9-2 Duluth all sat in both those years 3 rd teams from conferences were sat in favor of including all conferences. This year the choice most likely will be between 2 9-2 teams and Commerce, and that's only if Mines beats Dixie. If RMAC produces 9-1 Mines and Pueblo with 9-2 Dixie, Commerces only chance is to jump Angelo,
Last year Tarleton despite rolling their schedule much like this year was the 2 seed, commerce the year before won the Natty but were road warriors, CWU got the 1 seed that year, despite being the only rep from their conference and having arguably the weakest schedule of the top 3.
Having 11 d2 games is not a criteria either but the committee routinely rewards teams for playing 11 games, 9-2(.818)has routinely been favored over 8-2(.800). Primarily because it's an automatic higher win % and easy justification for the committee.
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Its been several years since I was involved in the regional rankings process. I am assuming the formulas are close to the same. The committee doesn't look at 9 games versus 11. What hurts a team with only 9 D2 games is not having two extra teams on the schedule to provide you with strength of schedule and opponents strength of schedule. If your team plays in a weak conference then you are in a world of hurt with only those 9 games and possibly no D2 non conference games. A team with 11 D2 games that schedules well non conference will have the advantage every time.
Where Tarleton is in a world of hurt against Minnesota Mankato is they have only 9 D2 games and the only non conference game is against William Jewell. That team may only finish with 1 win. Mankato has 11 D2 games and have an advantage of being in split divisions where they have the possibility of playing the better teams from the other side in any given year.
Tarleton may hold the top spot now but I would expect Mankato to take over in the end. The math will be the downfall not the committee.
Last edited by Buffalo/Islander Alum; 11-01-2019, 12:56 PM.
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Originally posted by Buffalo/Islander Alum View PostIts been several years since I was involved in the regional rankings process. I am assuming the formulas are close to the same. The committee doesn't look at 9 games versus 11. What hurts a team with only 9 D2 games is not having two extra teams on the schedule to provide you with strength of schedule and opponents strength of schedule. If your team plays in a weak conference then you are in a world of hurt with only those 9 games and possibly no D2 non conference games. A team with 11 D2 games that schedules well non conference will have the advantage every time.
Where Tarleton is in a world of hurt against Minnesota Mankato is they have only 9 D2 games and the only non conference game is against William Jewell. That team may only finish with 1 win. Mankato has 11 D2 games and have an advantage of being in split divisions where they have the possibility of playing the better teams from the other side in any given year.
Tarleton may hold the top spot now but I would expect Mankato to take over in the end. The math will be the downfall not the committee.
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Mary and Crookston have not helped our cause. Playing Sioux Falls next week should give a nice boost to our SOS. Last year we got the #1 because of in region record. The Texans have the opportunity to play more in region games but find it more important to schedule a money game and a jv squad.
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