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  • #31
    Originally posted by Clean Liver View Post

    Revenue toilet. Anyone ever plopped down $10 to watch D-II Men's/Women's Soccer?
    Adding mens soccer to fulfill the NCAA requirement of a mens sport in each season. Must also be needed to boost the count of mens athletes for Title IX since mens golf would be infinitely cheaper than soccer.

    RIP SCSU mens golf, they were a juggernaut in the terminal days of the NCC.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Augieholic View Post

      Adding mens soccer to fulfill the NCAA requirement of a mens sport in each season. Must also be needed to boost the count of mens athletes for Title IX since mens golf would be infinitely cheaper than soccer.

      RIP SCSU mens golf, they were a juggernaut in the terminal days of the NCC.
      I wonder if there could be a push to add more men's soccer teams in the league, similar to how women's swimming and diving has grown in recent years.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by StateU View Post
        I heard that SC is adding men's soccer!?!?
        Synchronized coed swimming.

        Seriously, if this is true, I feel very sorry for you. In 2011 you had one of the best teams in the country and the blizzard during the Wayne State U game cut that short. Then in 2013 you won the shootout in Mankato during the playoffs. To have this happen to you is a punch in the groin.

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        • #34
          Officially official

          https://scsuhuskies.com/news/2019/12...ns-soccer.aspx

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          • #35
            This is insane to me! I wonder if we'll move to a east/west conference now or if the NSIC fully restructures...this will be interesting

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            • #36
              I wonder if SD Mines and Black Hills St are already calling the conference offices to see if there is any chance for them to join.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Mandan View Post
                I wonder if SD Mines and Black Hills St are already calling the conference offices to see if there is any chance for them to join.
                That would be the result of a conference split, if that were to happen. But I wouldn't rule it out...

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                • #38
                  Not all that surprised if UMC is dropping football, but amazed that SCSU is. It will be interesting to see what implications this will have in scheduling in the future.

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                  • #39
                    Officially official from Crookston

                    https://goldeneaglesports.com/news/2...l-program.aspx

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                    • #40
                      UMC announces that they are dropping football.

                      https://www.crk.umn.edu/news/discont...otball-program

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by MStateMaverick View Post
                        Not all that surprised if UMC is dropping football, but amazed that SCSU is. It will be interesting to see what implications this will have in scheduling in the future.

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                          • #43
                            Will they have an open date though? The schedule will have to be done regardless now so do they continue with the silo schedule (6 division games with 5 cross-over) or do they change it to a 10 game conference schedule?

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by wscsuperfan View Post
                              https://www.sctimes.com/story/news/l...ow/4384166002/
                              https://www.sctimes.com/story/news/2...witter_sctimes

                              SCSU gave three reasons for dropping football (and women's golf)

                              1. To align SCSU athletics with Title IX requirements
                              An August ruling in federal court required the university to provide its female students with equitable opportunity to participate in athletics programs under the 1972 Title IX law that bars discrimination based on sex in federally funded education settings.

                              2. To ensure financial sustainability for the university and its athletics programs
                              Fall enrollment at SCSU was lower than projected and the university is facing a deficit of around $5.1 million for the fiscal year 2020. Changes in the athletics lineup will reduce athletic department budget shortfalls totaling $1.6 million over the last five years and will save around $1.25 million annually.

                              3. To ensure compliance with NCAA bylaws
                              Division II schools must sponsor a men's or mixed-gender and a women's sport in each of the three school seasons (fall, winter and spring). Men's soccer will fulfill this requirement for fall.

                              What about adding more women's programs?
                              The university said it considered adding women's programs, but none of the potential scenarios would have brought its athletics program into compliance with Title IX and address St. Cloud State's financial situation.

                              What does Title IX have to do with it?
                              In 2016 the university removed six athletic programs, including men's and women's tennis and Nordic skiing. That led to a lawsuit, with athletes claiming the university violated Title IX, a 1972 U.S. law that prohibits discrimination on the basis of sex in educational programs funded with federal dollars.

                              The judge found St. Cloud State didn't comply with Title IX from at least 2014 and ordered the university to fix the imbalance. In part, the school needs to better align the proportion of female and male athletes with the proportion men and women who are full-time, degree-seeking undergraduate students at the university.

                              Eliminating football and golf was the only way St. Cloud State found to address its financial challenges while complying with the court's order, Wacker said.

                              020.
                              Execution by Title IX. RIP. Can I get an F in the chat.

                              http://www.startribune.com/st-cloud-...ams/370796061/

                              Does the admin. at SCSU have a history of an inability to manages finances at the U?

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                              • #45
                                Right. The PSAC has 16 football schools and 2 non-football schools, and in basketball each team only plays 6 of the 9 teams in the other division in a given year.

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