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  • #91
    Originally posted by Stanger86 View Post

    But would he start at Valpo?
    Probably on both sides! :)

    (only half joking…haha)

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    • #92
      Casey Bauman has had a special year for the Vikings. 3rd in league in yards, highest completion % incredible 177.5 efficiency rating. He has played great in pressure situations. For a 6'7" QB he can run fast and dart around. This is Casey's 6th year in college football and I'm so happy for him. He transferred from Montana State University and Augie is fortunate to have him as he had other FCS offers.

      Also, for Jarod Epperson and all other players who come back from major surgeries. Epp had major knee surgery after game 4 of last season. He was well on his way to being the all-time leading rusher. It's taken him a few games to get back to his old form He now running with power and speed. Nobody could catch him on his 89yd. run against Kato, who you know hast fast DB's

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      • #93
        What’s NDSU have at QB? I’ve heard some thinking they need an upgrade.

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        • #94
          Originally posted by Stanger86 View Post

          But would he start at Valpo?
          Would he start at every other NSIC school?

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          • #95
            Originally posted by BulldogFan View Post

            Would he start at every other NSIC school?
            Quick answer: No

            But that’s not based on talent. That’s based on scheme. Strand is a much better overall QB than Walljasper, but Walljasper fits what Duluth wants much better. So, he likely wouldn’t start there, but again, not due to his talent.

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            • #96
              Originally posted by Purple Mav Man View Post

              Quick answer: No

              But that’s not based on talent. That’s based on scheme. Strand is a much better overall QB than Walljasper, but Walljasper fits what Duluth wants much better. So, he likely wouldn’t start there, but again, not due to his talent.
              Wasn’t a UMD directed comment. More of a broader perfect the system type comment. Watching Duluth this year you could have Tom Brady and still not get many passing yards. BSU played press yesterday and the UMD receivers couldn’t get off it. I’m not sure of Walljasper’s passing ability but it would be interesting to see how he would do on a team that had a few WRs.

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              • #97
                Originally posted by BulldogFan View Post

                Wasn’t a UMD directed comment. More of a broader perfect the system type comment. Watching Duluth this year you could have Tom Brady and still not get many passing yards. BSU played press yesterday and the UMD receivers couldn’t get off it. I’m not sure of Walljasper’s passing ability but it would be interesting to see how he would do on a team that had a few WRs.
                Not meant to be a rip on Duluth at all. They just don’t recruit those types of players or play that type of offense. Current fit would be poor.

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by Purple Mav Man View Post

                  He won’t/wouldn’t start at Iowa. McNamara is coming back for one thing. Also, Declan Hill is a garbage QB, but Strand isn’t playing against B1G defenses either. Not taking anything away from him, I believe Strand to be top end, but let’s slow down just a little bit here.

                  FCS? Sure. He could likely step right in most places there, no problem.
                  He's better than Declan Hill and not even debateable.

                  Iowa gave that guy a scholarship apparently.

                  and since he is better than their current qb he would be starting at Iowa

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by 34blast View Post
                    I kinda just like the official NISC stats for top QBs based on efficiency. Just go by the NISC stats and sort based on efficiency (click the efficiency heading)
                    Bauman is heads and shoulders above the rest.

                    https://northernsun.org/stats.aspx?p...ball&year=2023

                    You end up with this (too dumb to cut and paste it so look at the link)
                    1 Bauman (Augustana)
                    2 Walljasper (UMD)
                    3 Ekern (Kato)
                    4 Bohn (Wayne State)
                    5 Strand (MSU Moorhead)
                    6 Dean (Sioux Falls)
                    7 Alt (Bemidjit)
                    8 Stenstrom (WInona)
                    9 Massound (U Mary)
                    10 Martin (Southwest Minnesota State)
                    11 Cordts (Concordia St. Paul)

                    Not every QB has played the some level of competition yet. Not every QB has the same level of surrounding cast. Also weather makes a huge difference, so it becomes very subjective. But if you start with efficiency, that gives you something sort of non biased to start with. I have not really seen Strand play. I assume if you put him on Augie or Wayne he might be even better.

                    Let's see where they end up at the end of the year. Alt is low right now but to me probably 2, Bauman has looked the best with my eyes so far.
                    I wouldn’t put Waljasper that high on my list. A running back that takes snaps. Not much of a threat to do anything in the air doesn’t equal a top QB in the league, in my opinion. The list a couple of others had, with 4-5 guys listed, without him, makes more sense to me

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                    • Originally posted by CollegeFBGuy View Post

                      I wouldn’t put Waljasper that high on my list. A running back that takes snaps. Not much of a threat to do anything in the air doesn’t equal a top QB in the league, in my opinion. The list a couple of others had, with 4-5 guys listed, without him, makes more sense to me
                      Impressive that a RB rates so highly in so many QB categories ;-)

                      Jokes aside, Walljasper ranks as follows:

                      EFFIC - 2nd
                      TD / ATT - 1st
                      INT / ATT - 3rd
                      TD / INT - 1st
                      TD% - INT% - 1st
                      ANY/A - 4th
                      AY/A - 3rd
                      COMP ATT INT PCT YDS TD LONG AVG/G EFFIC TD / Att Int / Att TD / INT TD% - Int% Sack YDS Sacked Sack % ANY/A AY/A YDS/ATT
                      Bauman,Casey (Augustana) 149 230 8 64.8 2144 20 82 238.2 164.8 8.70% 3.48% 2.50 5.22% 74 15 6.52% 8.612244898 9.495652174 9.32173913
                      Walljasper,Kyle (Minnesota Duluth) 87 155 3 56.1 1164 17 78 129.3 151.5 10.97% 1.94% 5.67 9.03% 30 7 4.52% 8.265432099 8.832258065 7.509677419
                      Alt,Brandon (Bemidji State) 140 237 4 59.1 1933 19 50 241.6 150.7 8.02% 1.69% 4.75 6.33% 44 6 2.53% 8.596707819 9 8.156118143
                      Strand,Jack (MSU Moorhead) 299 445 8 67.2 3314 32 71 368.2 149.9 7.19% 1.80% 4.00 5.39% 146 24 5.39% 7.351812367 8.076404494 7.447191011
                      Ekern,Hayden (Minnesota State ) 134 228 5 58.8 1833 18 90 203.7 148 7.89% 2.19% 3.60 5.70% 30 5 2.19% 8.317596567 8.631578947 8.039473684
                      Bohn,Nick (Wayne State College) 143 249 8 57.4 2150 17 75 238.9 146.1 6.83% 3.21% 2.13 3.61% 60 6 2.41% 8.117647059 8.554216867 8.634538153
                      Dean,Camden (Sioux Falls) 164 251 6 65.3 1802 17 75 200.2 143.2 6.77% 2.39% 2.83 4.38% 77 12 4.78% 6.825095057 7.458167331 7.179282869
                      Hackel,Colton (Northern State) 79 147 8 53.7 1285 8 70 183.6 134.2 5.44% 5.44% 1.00 0.00% 116 19 12.93% 5.837349398 7.380952381 8.741496599
                      Stenstrom,Cole (Winona State) 154 271 10 56.8 1939 14 55 215.4 126.6 5.17% 3.69% 1.40 1.48% 128 26 9.59% 5.525252525 6.527675277 7.15498155

                      Offense / play calling coupled with personnel dictates what UMD does with their QB so the way they are running things this year no chance for the QB to compete in yards, attempts, etc... I'd love to see them mix it up much more as they've become a one trick pony relying too much on one guy for their offense.

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                      • This is my top 5 list, I considered how much weight is put on each player's shoulders to carry their offense and their success this season. Strand checks all the boxes for a typical qb and passes the eye test. Bohn isn't as natural of a thrower as Strand, but he is a competitor, and he is asked to do a lot in that offense with his arm and his legs.

                        1- Strand
                        2- Bohn
                        3- Alt
                        4- Bauman
                        5- Walljasper

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                        • Originally posted by BulldogFan View Post

                          Impressive that a RB rates so highly in so many QB categories ;-)

                          Jokes aside, Walljasper ranks as follows:

                          EFFIC - 2nd
                          TD / ATT - 1st
                          INT / ATT - 3rd
                          TD / INT - 1st
                          TD% - INT% - 1st
                          ANY/A - 4th
                          AY/A - 3rd
                          1) Games with fewer than 100 yards passing = 4 (of 9)

                          2) Completion percentage in 2 losses (Duluth’s 2 quality opponents) = 48.65%

                          3) Combined passing in those 2 games = 207 (103.5 average)

                          This is just part of why it’s difficult to call him a top QB. He can run the ball with the best of em, and I wouldn’t want to get caught in front of that train! But not so much when actually asked to pass.

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                          • Originally posted by Purple Mav Man View Post

                            1) Games with fewer than 100 yards passing = 4 (of 9)

                            2) Completion percentage in 2 losses (Duluth’s 2 quality opponents) = 48.65%

                            3) Combined passing in those 2 games = 207 (103.5 average)

                            This is just part of why it’s difficult to call him a top QB. He can run the ball with the best of em, and I wouldn’t want to get caught in front of that train! But not so much when actually asked to pass.

                            Really good points here. Also, in their 2 losses he had 25 and 24 rushing attempts. He's getting a starting RB load as a QB, which physically has to drain him and probably hurts his passing ability. Think of how many times he has already been hit in a game once you get to the 4th quarter. I'm telling you, as a former QB, that is unsustainable to do week in and week out in this league.

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                            • Originally posted by Purple Mav Man View Post

                              1) Games with fewer than 100 yards passing = 4 (of 9)

                              2) Completion percentage in 2 losses (Duluth’s 2 quality opponents) = 48.65%

                              3) Combined passing in those 2 games = 207 (103.5 average)

                              This is just part of why it’s difficult to call him a top QB. He can run the ball with the best of em, and I wouldn’t want to get caught in front of that train! But not so much when actually asked to pass.
                              Run press coverage with single high and those numbers drop even further. BSU had it game planned out.

                              Will be interesting to see numbers in the must win Mankato matchup

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                              • Originally posted by 4THEPAW View Post


                                Really good points here. Also, in their 2 losses he had 25 and 24 rushing attempts. He's getting a starting RB load as a QB, which physically has to drain him and probably hurts his passing ability. Think of how many times he has already been hit in a game once you get to the 4th quarter. I'm telling you, as a former QB, that is unsustainable to do week in and week out in this league.
                                The guy is built like a tank at 235lbs, so he can take most of the punishment. But I hear you, it has to be draining by the end of games. Especially the extra-physical games.

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