Should Jamestown be accepted into the NSIC?

[Stanger86]

There is a reason why Georgia Tech is in the ACC and not the B10 or SEC. Both conferences don't want bottom feeders and markets with no value. The reason why Wyoming was ditched. You have to be selective.

So you supported adding Rutgers to the Big Ten due to the NJ/NY market?

[SW_Mustang]

They have to build a cafeteria. Admission to games vs adding water polo team with 40 students.

I wonder why Jamestown received a D from Forbes? Anyone know?

I looked into it - Forbes assigned a methodology to measure post-COVID financial recovery, and UJ got the worst grade possible. Not the best answer but it's what I got.

What's wild is that UJ charges $22,000 in just tuition for undergrads and only has about 900 students. Niche says that over 60% are athletes too. Their degrees are worth an average of $60,000 annually.

That's one hell of a business model.

[SW_Mustang]

Practice!

They're well on their way.

[debergfan]

*next week

I just hope Jamestown isn't charging admission to the games. That would send a message to everyone who doesn't want to pay... or something.

They have to build a cafeteria. Admission to games vs adding water polo team with 40 students.

I wonder why Jamestown received a D from Forbes? Anyone know?

[oldyellaHer69]

Jims can't add to the L column today, and that's just as good as a win.

Practice!

[SW_Mustang]

Augie puts 100 on them today

*next week

I just hope Jamestown isn't charging admission to the games. That would send a message to everyone who doesn't want to pay... or something.

[debergfan]

This is just craziness. And a TON of projection coming out. Starting to put the pieces together now…

It’s clear that Stager86 has deeper connections to Jamestown than we realize. He/She/They are far too invested in defending a school with oversized rosters and no cafeteria, a school that, in my opinion, belongs in the NAIA or NCCAA. But as I said before, someone has to finish last. I hope Augie puts 100 on them today err next week for their welcome to NSIC moment.

[SW_Mustang]

Good morning fellow trolls, it’s game day, go Jimmies!

Jims can't add to the L column today, and that's just as good as a win.

[oldyellaHer69]

Good morning fellow trolls, it’s game day, go Jimmies!

[Purple Mav Man]

There is a reason why Georgia Tech is in the ACC and not the B10 or SEC. Both conferences don't want bottom feeders and markets with no value. The reason why Wyoming was ditched. You have to be selective.

I get your point, but Georgia Tech is in Atlanta and has a market with plenty of value. But again, I understand your point.
Pac 12 schools were in this situation. Nobody wanted Oregon State or Washington State for those very reasons.

[Purple Mav Man]

I think the worst thing you can do as a conference is to be restrictive about which programs can or cannot join. I don't eliminate any program based on enrollment, town population, on field success, or scholarship money, unless you're willing to pare down the current conference teams along with it. Because that's what those kinds of restrictions are signaling to current conference members. Not big enough? Not rich enough? Not good enough? Better start looking for other conferences, if you start blocking new programs from joining.

This is just craziness. And a TON of projection coming out. Starting to put the pieces together now…

[SW_Mustang]

There is a reason why Georgia Tech is in the ACC and not the B10 or SEC. Both conferences don't want bottom feeders and markets with no value. The reason why Wyoming was ditched. You have to be selective.

It's insane to me that we even have to have this conversation. Next we're going to have to give Jamestown an honorary conference title so their feelings don't get hurt.

[debergfan]

I think the worst thing you can do as a conference is to be restrictive about which programs can or cannot join.

There is a reason why Georgia Tech is in the ACC and not the B10 or SEC. Both conferences don't want bottom feeders and markets with no value. The reason why Wyoming was ditched. You have to be selective.

[NSU4LIFE]

I do give them credit for gettin ahead of the game for cyber security and compter stuff. In Minnesota if we tried to add those at SMSU it would take a decade of study and meeting to even discuss it. DSU just went ahead and did it and it does get lots of students on campus

It's important to know on the boards that "A wise man knows nothing, only fools know everything"

Some on here talk with confidence so much they dont even know where they stand.

[SW_Mustang]

First of all, now I think you're the one confusing posters, as that sounds like it should be more directed at me than MrMustang from my memory.

But now to the real point, I have never said that I don't like towns bigger than Marshall. Sure, I wouldn't live in one myself, as even Marshall has become too big for my tastes at times. But that has more to do with the town culture over population. We prefer going to Watertown over Marshall for our shopping, for example, despite Watertown being about 10k bigger.

I'm not saying "don't allow any schools from towns bigger than Marshall" as a reason for or against any program. It's not part of the discussion for me. That's the point I keep wanting to get across.

I think the worst thing you can do as a conference is to be restrictive about which programs can or cannot join. I don't eliminate any program based on enrollment, town population, on field success, or scholarship money, unless you're willing to pare down the current conference teams along with it. Because that's what those kinds of restrictions are signaling to current conference members. Not big enough? Not rich enough? Not good enough? Better start looking for other conferences, if you start blocking new programs from joining.

I know who I'm responding too.

On the bolded - if the subtext here is that denying Jamestown would have sent a message to SMSU, I was never worried about it. The two institutions don't share much in common. Now - all conferences have standards and restrictions. Even the "come as you are" conferences have them baked in somewhere. Just allowing anyone to go where they want too would create a lot of instability and chaos. It's kinda why we have conferences and divisions in the first place, and levels of organization across all sports beyond college.

I think Jamestown should be allowed to have sports, and I still stand by my opinion that they weren't the absolute worst option - but I think there was plenty of reason to tell them "no."