Re: West Liberty Hilltopper Basketball
There's a ton of these programs out there. Slippery Rock is the PSAC version. New team yearly. Not to say they don't win ... but those schools will rarely ever win in March.
High school recruiting is tough. There's pressure to win immediately. Schools with a lot of scholarship money can take high school players to develop but the lure of taking kids ready to play is strong.
The culture of college basketball is so transfer heavy now at all levels. Transfers all think they should be the star, too. Most anyway.
IUP takes a lot but rarely one-year guys. Dyer of course was one but you can't pass that kind up.
Different era, I guess.
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Re: West Liberty Hilltopper Basketball
Originally posted by boatcapt View PostValdosta is one of "those" colleges. I count one player on the roster who did not transfer from another college to the program. I note that they show Gauzilotte's previous school as "West Liberty HS" and Justice's previous as "West Liberty State." 10 juniors and seniors on their roster but only three of those played at Valdosta last season. You think WLU is going to have trouble replacing five departures...Imagine 10!
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Originally posted by Columbuseer View PostBo justice plays for Valdosta. A complete player and intense competitor. Saw a lot of minutes off the bench as a frosh at wl. Thought he had a great future at wl just like clay. Don't know why he left. Think he made all conf at Valdosta Last year.
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Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View PostI don't know ...
If Dennis wanted to come here ... I'd have personally paid for the limo to pick him up.
He's pretty special. He was only a sophomore. Two years to go ... monster.
The guy you guys don't talk about much is the one who played for Valdosta last year. He had some serious stats. It will be interesting to see him and Clay play together.
There will be some nights not having that big will be an issue. Vorhees and Highsmith will cause some problems.
Side note: I don't get Pat Moseh and Highsmith not getting any preseason accolades. That's crazy. Those two are going to be elite this year.
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Bo justice plays for Valdosta. A complete player and intense competitor. Saw a lot of minutes off the bench as a frosh at wl. Thought he had a great future at wl just like clay. Don't know why he left. Think he made all conf at Valdosta Last year.
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I don't know ...
If Dennis wanted to come here ... I'd have personally paid for the limo to pick him up.
He's pretty special. He was only a sophomore. Two years to go ... monster.
The guy you guys don't talk about much is the one who played for Valdosta last year. He had some serious stats. It will be interesting to see him and Clay play together.
There will be some nights not having that big will be an issue. Vorhees and Highsmith will cause some problems.
Side note: I don't get Pat Moseh and Highsmith not getting any preseason accolades. That's crazy. Those two are going to be elite this year.
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Like you said who will reject shots and rebound like gross? Not obvious. Maybe Ochoa or moore but it is asking a lot to expect it next year.
I would rate hoehn close #2 after gross. He had ice water in his veins at crunch time. Great shooter under pressure. I would put Dennis at #3 even though I am a big fan and he is very talented. He needed to improve 3 pt shot and settle for 8 ft shot in the lane like hearn instead of attempting difficult shot at the rim. Very difficult to guard however. He was a good passer too.
I am intrigued by the transfers especially Watson at pg.. He might be quicker than Dennis based on some videos I have seen.
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Originally posted by IUP Extra Mile View PostThoughts on the MEC preseason poll...I know it's only for talking points, and for us to use as a benchmark as you enter the season...But I'm not surprised that WL is voted 3rd...They lost a starting team....Think about it...You have a Top 10 team that either graduated or transferred
PG Dennis
SG Hoehn
SF Clay
PF Kirkbride
C Grossenbacher
That being said, I'm optimistic... I forgot about Griffin, who finished last year playing really well...Adds some needed size, good 3 point shooting, and was able to drive the lane pretty well...
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Re: West Liberty Hilltopper Basketball
Originally posted by IUP Extra Mile View PostThoughts on the MEC preseason poll...I know it's only for talking points, and for us to use as a benchmark as you enter the season...But I'm not surprised that WL is voted 3rd...They lost a starting team....Think about it...You have a Top 10 team that either graduated or transferred
PG Dennis
SG Hoehn
SF Clay
PF Kirkbride
C Grossenbacher
That being said, I'm optimistic... I forgot about Griffin, who finished last year playing really well...Adds some needed size, good 3 point shooting, and was able to drive the lane pretty well...
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Fairmont has a tough road prior to Christmas.
Give them credit ... taking road games at Findlay and at IUP in the non-conference.
Also before the break, FSU plays at WLU and hosts Wheeling Jesuit and Cal.
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Thoughts on the MEC preseason poll...I know it's only for talking points, and for us to use as a benchmark as you enter the season...But I'm not surprised that WL is voted 3rd...They lost a starting team....Think about it...You have a Top 10 team that either graduated or transferred
PG Dennis
SG Hoehn
SF Clay
PF Kirkbride
C Grossenbacher
That being said, I'm optimistic... I forgot about Griffin, who finished last year playing really well...Adds some needed size, good 3 point shooting, and was able to drive the lane pretty well...
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Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View PostWL has always been small by traditional standards. Even the Seger years they weren't imposing. This year is a different animal. That's a pretty small lineup.
I'd guess most nights it won't matter. They will just out-score teams and run them to death.
I'll be curious, however, when they match up with a team just as talented who has legit bigs.
Granted, that won't happen very often ... but it will eventually. The Atlantic has some elite bigs this year. Eventually they will have to contend with a Sleva, etc.
With such a small line-up, 3 point shooting % and pressure D is going to be absolutely critical. It can be done but our margin of error will be razor thin. As a team if we have a cold shooting night, we will probably lose. Of course, with so many shooters the chance of ALL of them being cold on the same night are pretty small.
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WL has always been small by traditional standards. Even the Seger years they weren't imposing. This year is a different animal. That's a pretty small lineup.
I'd guess most nights it won't matter. They will just out-score teams and run them to death.
I'll be curious, however, when they match up with a team just as talented who has legit bigs.
Granted, that won't happen very often ... but it will eventually. The Atlantic has some elite bigs this year. Eventually they will have to contend with a Sleva, etc.
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Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View PostCemeteries are full of irreplaceable dead people.
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