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  • Golden89
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    Originally posted by Mjtheman View Post
    I believe the rule was changed a few years ago due in large part to Gannon edinboro women. Gannon lost two regular season games both to edinboro but edinboro lost I think four psac west and crossover. A lot of Gannon fans were shocked that they were not hosting the tourney. The rule at the time was crossover didn't count. Edinboro hosted and won. I don't see the reason of playing that many meaningless games. Waste of time and money for fans. The Gannon men vs ESU was the most entertaining game at the hammermill in a long time. Probably because winning meant something.
    I don't remember this being a compelling reason for the move to make crossover games count. I certainly wasn't "shocked" that Boro women got to host. Edinboro women lost only one game in the west (by 25 at home to Cal). Gannon's only two regular season losses were to Edinboro and was undefeated in crossover games. Just looked it up and indeed Boro did lose two regular-season crossover games, but honestly, this is the first time that I knew that.

    Gannon was 28-4 that season, with all four losses coming to Edinboro. Sigh.

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  • Golden89
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    Originally posted by IUPalum View Post
    You can't be serious right??? First place in the East is separated by 1 game and three teams. The west has Gannon/IUP clinched but the rest of the teams spots are up for grabs by numerous teams. I think the race is just heating up!!!
    I'm not saying that it's not happening this year. It's just that the more games you have, the less likely it is mathematically to have the division decided with 1-3 games to go. That's all. Not saying that there aren't any good races.

    My only other annoyance with the games counting is that crossover schedules aren't even. For example, Gannon's drawing a nice break in that they didn't have to play Ship and Kutztown; IUP had to play both. Also, Gannon got to play doormat Cheyney, but IUP didn't. Gannon didn't take advantage of these breaks.

    I suppose that the games counting in the standings still has more plusses than minuses, though.

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    I believe the rule was changed a few years ago due in large part to Gannon edinboro women. Gannon lost two regular season games both to edinboro but edinboro lost I think four psac west and crossover. A lot of Gannon fans were shocked that they were not hosting the tourney. The rule at the time was crossover didn't count. Edinboro hosted and won. I don't see the reason of playing that many meaningless games. Waste of time and money for fans. The Gannon men vs ESU was the most entertaining game at the hammermill in a long time. Probably because winning meant something.

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  • IUPalum
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    Originally posted by Golden89 View Post
    Runaway wins are much more likely with 22 league games. This is one thing that I don't like about the cross-over games counting -- much less likely for races to come down to the final two weeks.
    You can't be serious right??? First place in the East is separated by 1 game and three teams. The west has Gannon/IUP clinched but the rest of the teams spots are up for grabs by numerous teams. I think the race is just heating up!!!

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  • Golden89
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    Runaway wins are much more likely with 22 league games. This is one thing that I don't like about the cross-over games counting -- much less likely for races to come down to the final two weeks.

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  • IUPbigINDIANS
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    With the IUP win and Gannon loss, the Crimson Hawks' lead in the West is now four games.

    IUP shot 68 percent from the field last night (83-66 win) -- SRU led the PSAC in FG% against and points against entering the game. The only negative is the team seemed to lose some interest after being up 20 at the half.

    Even Reynolds was silent in the second half. He looked and acted defeated. Total mismatch.

    There haven't been many total run-aways in the West as long as I can remember.

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  • IUPbigINDIANS
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    IUP 83
    Rock 66

    Final


    The women hung 105 on the rock.


    SH men upset Gannon
    Mercy all over Clarion
    UPJ put a hundy up on Boro
    Last edited by IUPbigINDIANS; 02-04-2017, 08:47 PM.

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  • IUPbigINDIANS
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    There have been several tight ones but, yes, it goes back to the 90-91 season.

    I feel for Clarion. I didn't realize until I updated the standings on here today that they've dropped 13 straight.

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  • Golden89
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    SRU's last win at IUP was in 1990-91? I assume they play there every year? 26 straight wins? For real? WOW!!!

    Clarion has a similar streak of futility at Gannon, but they only restarted their annual home-and-home series when Gannon joined the PSAC in 2009.

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    Just a basketball fan. Iup men and cal women are the two I really enjoy watching. I do respect a lot of other psac men's and women's teams and coaches.

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  • IUPbigINDIANS
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    Mjtheman: I've been curious ... what school is your favorite? I can tell you follow the PSAC pretty closely ... just can't tell what camp you're in?

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    Have to pull for SRU in this one. Give them the third spot in the psac west so a return visit to the hammermill is possible. Gannon is almost a lock at the two seed. That would be a must see game.

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  • IUPbigINDIANS
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    Slippery Rock (8-8, 12-10) at IUP (15-1, 20-2)

    2-4-17
    7:30 p.m.


    The best home game of the year has finally arrived. It's hard to say exactly 'why' but many in the IUP following consider this the biggest rivalry game of the year. It generally has one of the largest gate draws of the season and also one of the more excited crowds. And, to think, some say Kevin Reynolds is bad for business. If his visit to town is enough to get the KCAC amped up ... more power to him.

    A look inside the series:

    * IUP is 8-3 in the past 11 meetings against SRU.
    * Joe is 20-6 career vs. Kevin Reynolds
    * Recall, under similar circumstances a year ago, SRU dealt IUP a devastating upset defeat inside Morrow in late February (ending IUP's 13-game winning streak).
    * Slippery Rock's last win in Indiana was during the 1990-91 season
    * IUP leads the all-time series, 104-73
    * SRU has a win against IUP in 3 of the past 4 seasons -- very impressive all things considered
    * Slippery Rock's last 'Saturday night' visit to Indiana (not over a break), during the 2014 season, drew more than 3,100 (The same night of the infamous Reynolds technical that ultimately blew the game for SRU). That was 'one of' the better atmospheres ever at the KCAC that night. The crowd got to him that night more than the game and he finally lost it.
    * IUP won the first meeting this season, 65-50, on Jan. 6 at Morrow Field House
    * A footnote some may not know: Kevin Reynolds was an assistant coach at IUP under Gary Edwards. So much irony as Edwards' sideline antics were very similar to Reynolds.
    * Slippery Rock is No. 1 in the PSAC in scoring defense -- giving up just 61.3 ppg
    * Slippery Rock is also No. 1 in the PSAC in Rebounding Margin (10.8)
    * Free Throw shooting has been the Rock's Achilles' Heel -- SRU is shooting just 64.5% from the line. At minimum, this has cost SRU 4-5 games this season.


    Side note: The women's game is the rematch of IUP blasting SRU earlier this season. The same night the SRU ladies got three technicals and Coach Bobby McGraw was ejected.
    Last edited by IUPbigINDIANS; 02-03-2017, 11:35 AM.

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  • IUPbigINDIANS
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    If they want to act like Allen Iverson and Pete Marovich against the Regional level teams .... the season will end pretty quickly.

    To have 25 TO and still win by double digits is hard to fathom but it happened.

    Joe dodged a bullet last night. Thirty-some games ... it will happen. Hopefully it is now out of the system.

    My hair gets a little more gray by the game.


    This is the most bizarre 20-2 team ever.

    Side note last night was the first home game with students since Dec 10. That's incredible.

    More incredible: watching the entire student section empty and leave with 9 minutes left in a 2-point game. What a joke.

    The women's game, btw, was a thriller last night with IUP getting a big, 73-71, buzzer-beating win over Mercyhurst.

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  • Golden89
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    Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post
    IUP wins a slop fest by 11 points.

    Best summary of IUP's 25 turnover performance is to puke in a garbage can for three minutes and then stick your head in it for three minutes and enjoy the aroma.

    Sums it up pretty well.

    If I'm Joe there is no film review. Bury it and move on to the next one.

    Positive is they shot over 50 percent and creamed the Lakers on the boards 34-18. Cottrell 15 points and 7 blocks.

    But ... ugliest IUP performance I've seen in a long time.
    IUP beat Gannon pretty easily despite a crapload of turnovers. They will have to control those if they want to compete in the regional.

    Gannon UPJ was a very interesting game. Great touch pass from Miraud to Phoenix for go-ahead basket with eight seconds left.

    Zay Jackson did not start (think he was sick), but played significant minutes before leaving with an injury. He hit the floor hard on a drive to the hoop. Status unknown. He is needed for GU to have any shot.

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