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  • UPJ is playing three games this week in Puerto Rico (against non-NCAA teams). Any idea if these games count for anything (overall record) or are these basically just exhibitions? I know they wouldn't count in the metrics used for the tournament.

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    • Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post
      UPJ is playing three games this week in Puerto Rico (against non-NCAA teams). Any idea if these games count for anything (overall record) or are these basically just exhibitions? I know they wouldn't count in the metrics used for the tournament.
      http://web1.ncaa.org/champsel_new/ex...=20&division=2), and the Puerto Rico schools were listed, despite having played only five D2 games each. So I assume they fully count for the D2 teams that play them. The third team that UPJ plays is non-NCAA.
      Last edited by Inkblot; 11-25-2019, 11:11 PM.

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      • Light schedule this week but there is an oddly intriguing game tomorrow night.

        Typically when you see a 6-0 team host an 0-5 team ... you don't expect much. However, that's not quite the case tomorrow night when Wilmington (0-5) makes the short trip up to West Chester (6-0). This should actually be a good game.

        Wilmington has likely played the toughest D2 schedule in the country up to this point. Their opponents have a combined 24-7 record. Two are nationally ranked and two more are close to cracking the Top 25.

        at Bentley
        at (No. 12) Saint Anselm
        at Millersville
        Shippensburg
        at (No. 10) Daemen

        Their last three losses, in particular, have been close games. They led Shippensburg at halftime before falling, 77-69, and, most recently, went up to Daemen and lost just 83-81, after again having a lead at the half.

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        • UPDATED STANDINGS

          EAST PSAC OVERALL STREAK
          West Chester 2-0 6-0 W6
          Shippensburg 2-0 6-1 W5
          Bloomsburg 1-1 3-3 W1
          Kutztown 1-1 2-4 L1
          Mansfield 1-1 2-4 L1
          East Stroudsburg 0-2 3-3 L2
          Lock Haven 0-2 3-3 L3
          Millersville 0-2 3-3 L2
          Shepherd 0-2 3-3 L2
          WEST PSAC OVERALL STREAK
          IUP 2-0 5-0 W5
          UPJ 2-0 5-1 W5
          Mercyhurst 2-0 4-1 W3
          California 2-0 4-2 W4
          Edinboro 1-1 4-1 L1
          Slippery Rock 1-1 3-3 W1
          Gannon 1-1 1-2 W1
          Seton Hill 0-2 1-3 L2
          Clarion 0-2 1-5 W1

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          • With ESU & MIllersville off to tough starts, it seems like the East is already a two-horse race. Lots of power still humming in the West. But the past few years of a deep East might be a thing of the past this year.

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            • Originally posted by Scrub View Post
              With ESU & MIllersville off to tough starts, it seems like the East is already a two-horse race. Lots of power still humming in the West. But the past few years of a deep East might be a thing of the past this year.
              Perhaps, but it's a little early to write teams off. I remember Ship getting off to a rather pedestrian 3-2 start a couple of seasons back and ending up in the Division II final 16 that year.

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              • Didn't know this poll existed, but, nonetheless:

                D2CCA men's Basketball Atlantic Region Poll (Nov. 25)
                1. IUP (5 votes) 5-0
                2. West Chester (1 vote) 6-0
                3. West Liberty 5-1
                4. Shippensburg 6-1
                5. Fayetteville State 6-0
                6. Charleston 5-1
                7. tie Edinboro 4-1
                7. tie UPJ 5-1
                9. tie Mercyhurst 4-1
                9. tie Glenville State 4-1

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                • Originally posted by Scrub View Post
                  With ESU & MIllersville off to tough starts, it seems like the East is already a two-horse race. Lots of power still humming in the West. But the past few years of a deep East might be a thing of the past this year.
                  Kutztown will have a completely different outlook when/if Moe Williams returns. He's a complete game-changer. However, the losses are mounting for the Golden Bears. The immediate schedule isn't friendly. After the upcoming Cheyney game, they have four tough ones in a row heading in to Christmas break.

                  Millersville is a good team. The 3-3 record is deceiving -- consider they have two losses by a combined 3 points. But, losses are losses. I think they'll be fine moving forward. I think they'll go 4-0 in their next four outings to right the ship.

                  ESU has some work to do but could turn it around.

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                  • Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post

                    Kutztown will have a completely different outlook when/if Moe Williams returns. He's a complete game-changer. However, the losses are mounting for the Golden Bears. The immediate schedule isn't friendly. After the upcoming Cheyney game, they have four tough ones in a row heading in to Christmas break.

                    Millersville is a good team. The 3-3 record is deceiving -- consider they have two losses by a combined 3 points. But, losses are losses. I think they'll be fine moving forward. I think they'll go 4-0 in their next four outings to right the ship.

                    ESU has some work to do but could turn it around.
                    Good summary. And Ship has a tricky little stretch coming up with California on Dec. 7, a West Virginia trip to Fairmont on the 17th, and then back-to-backers at home with UPJ and IUP on the 20th and 21st. Even at home, I wouldn't be too unhappy with a 1-1 split for the UPJ-IUP weekend.

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                    • UPDATED MEN'S STANDINGS - 12/2/19
                      EAST PSAC OVERALL STREAK
                      West Chester 2-0 8-0 W8
                      Shippensburg 2-0 6-1 W5
                      Bloomsburg 1-1 3-3 W1
                      Kutztown 1-1 2-4 L1
                      Mansfield 1-1 2-4 L1
                      East Stroudsburg 0-2 3-3 L2
                      Lock Haven 0-2 3-3 L3
                      Millersville 0-2 3-3 L2
                      Shepherd 0-2 3-3 L2
                      WEST PSAC OVERALL STREAK
                      IUP 2-0 6-0 W6
                      UPJ 2-0 8-1 W8
                      Mercyhurst 2-0 4-1 W3
                      California 2-0 5-2 W5
                      Edinboro 1-1 4-2 L2
                      Slippery Rock 1-1 4-3 W2
                      Gannon 1-1 2-3 L1
                      Seton Hill 0-2 1-4 L3
                      Clarion 0-2 1-5 W1

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                      • The Week Ahead:


                        Best Games

                        Mercyhurst (2-0, 4-1) at West Chester (2-0, 8-0)
                        - When a high-scoring team meets a shutdown defensive team -- something has to give. The Rams are tough at home. But, defense travels well. West Chester is putting up 88.6 ppg during its hot start. Mercyhurst (shocker) is giving up just 65.4 ppg. Two very good coaches get a week each to prepare for this marquee match-up. The Lakers have played a tougher schedule to this point.


                        California (2-0, 5-2) at Shippensburg (2-0, 6-1)
                        - The Danny Sancomb rebuild didn't take very long. Both teams have won five straight. The Chris Fite Show keeps on rolling. This is the start of a brutal 5-game stretch for the Red Raiders. Ship's next five: Cal, at Fairmont, UPJ, IUP, Millersville. The Vulcans also start a grueling month. After the trip to Shippensburg, Cal takes a short trip to Carlow before a weekend set at West Chester and MIllersville, followed by UPJ, at SRU and Shepherd. With the schedules looming for both teams, it makes this one all the more important. Sancomb vs. Fite is really a battle of two excellent X's and O's coaches.



                        Under the Radar Games

                        Shepherd at Virginia Union - Two historically strong programs both off to somewhat shaky starts.

                        East Stroudsburg at Queens College - ESU has had its ups and downs. Queens College may be better than its deceiving 3-5 record.

                        Gannon at Kutztown - The Golden Bears are just 2-4 without star forward Moe Williams, but they are coming off a strong showing in a close loss at UPJ. Gannon was a couple seconds from knocking off No. 11 Ashland.

                        Slippery Rock at Shepherd - Second game of a tough week for the Rams. This is SRU's last game without Micah Till.


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                        • Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post
                          The Week Ahead:


                          Best Games

                          Mercyhurst (2-0, 4-1) at West Chester (2-0, 8-0)
                          - When a high-scoring team meets a shutdown defensive team -- something has to give. The Rams are tough at home. But, defense travels well. West Chester is putting up 88.6 ppg during its hot start. Mercyhurst (shocker) is giving up just 65.4 ppg. Two very good coaches get a week each to prepare for this marquee match-up. The Lakers have played a tougher schedule to this point.


                          California (2-0, 5-2) at Shippensburg (2-0, 6-1)
                          - The Danny Sancomb rebuild didn't take very long. Both teams have won five straight. The Chris Fite Show keeps on rolling. This is the start of a brutal 5-game stretch for the Red Raiders. Ship's next five: Cal, at Fairmont, UPJ, IUP, Millersville. The Vulcans also start a grueling month. After the trip to Shippensburg, Cal takes a short trip to Carlow before a weekend set at West Chester and MIllersville, followed by UPJ, at SRU and Shepherd. With the schedules looming for both teams, it makes this one all the more important. Sancomb vs. Fite is really a battle of two excellent X's and O's coaches.



                          Under the Radar Games

                          Shepherd at Virginia Union - Two historically strong programs both off to somewhat shaky starts.

                          East Stroudsburg at Queens College - ESU has had its ups and downs. Queens College may be better than its deceiving 3-5 record.

                          Gannon at Kutztown - The Golden Bears are just 2-4 without star forward Moe Williams, but they are coming off a strong showing in a close loss at UPJ. Gannon was a couple seconds from knocking off No. 11 Ashland.

                          Slippery Rock at Shepherd - Second game of a tough week for the Rams. This is SRU's last game without Micah Till.

                          Never a fan of woulda, coulda, shoulda but DS VULCANS are literally two shots, one miss and one make, from 7-0. Don't know if GSC has replays available but the game on Sunday was the first time his team seemed to be playing as a unit. They have four legit scoring threats in PEGRAM, COLLINS, ALEXANDER and HOUSE so a complete shutdown seems unlikely. But it only counts if they do it on the court so getting to the New Year at 7-4 or 8-3, it will be time to give their spot on the calendar serious prep unlike recent years. Time will tell.

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                          • Amazing to think, but most PSAC schools have already played about 25% of their regular season schedule.

                            The early West Report Card:

                            IUP (6-0): The Crimson Hawks are off to a 6-0 start and have been piling up blowout victories. Some of the shine certainly came off with Tommy Demo's season-ending injury. However, they are still a really strong team (with a really light bench). Grade: A+

                            UPJ (8-1): Minus the opening-night slip-up against Concord, UPJ has been rolling. With a healthy, deep (by UPJ standards) roster, the Mountain Cats are perhaps now the favorites to win the West. Grade: A

                            Mercyhurst (4-1): New year. (Mostly) New roster. Same results. The Lakers' only blemish is a two-point loss at nationally ranked Daemen -- a game they had won. Grade: A

                            California (5-2): The Vulcans have two losses by a combined three points. Both came on opening weekend. They haven't lost since. There was a stretch of fairly light games over the past couple weeks, but winning at Glenville State -- and shutting them down -- was impressive. Grade: A-

                            Edinboro (4-2): The Scots came out of the blocks on fire -- racing to a 4-0 start. However, their past two outings haven't been pretty -- two blowout losses at home. Edinboro starts a BRUTAL 8-game run this Saturday at Millersville. It's hard to see many (any) wins over these next 8 outings. Pivotal stretch. Grade: B-

                            Slippery Rock (4-3): The Rock is off to a 4-3 start after a big road win at U-DC in its last outing. Star forward Micah Till also returns in less than two weeks. Having not practiced with the team all season, there will likely be an adjustment period. It's still tough to have three losses by Dec. 3, but things could have been worse. If Till can blend in with his new team rather than his new team having to blend in with him, SRU could be a force in the second half. We'll see how that dynamic works out. Grade: C+

                            Gannon (2-3): The Knights are a tough out. Despite a 2-3 record, they've been in every game and are a scrappy bunch. They'e also played, overall, likely the toughest schedule of any West team up to this point. If they stay healthy (not a real deep team) they will be a pretty formidable team throughout the season. Grade: C

                            Seton Hill (1-4): This is going to be a long year in Greensburg. The Griffins are playing a ton of true freshmen. They should improve as the year rolls along -- similar to last season. But, wins are going to be few and far between. Grade: D

                            Clarion (1-5): The Golden Eagles started the season with 5 straight double-digit losses. Then, oddly, beat a solid Lake Erie team this past weekend. One thing of note is Mason Mraz, who is one of their top players, has not played yet this season. He would be a huge addition if/when he returns. Grade: D

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                            • UPJ is 8-1 overall but the 3 games in Puerto Rico won't count towards playoffs. They aren't NCAA teams I don't think.

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                              • Originally posted by IUPalum View Post
                                UPJ is 8-1 overall but the 3 games in Puerto Rico won't count towards playoffs. They aren't NCAA teams I don't think.
                                2 out of 3 are NCAA teams and count towards selection.

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