Here you go you bunch of gambling degenerates.
(Mythical) Vegas has the West winning 6 of 9 tonight. Tomorrow may reverse, but I like the West to carry the load tonight.
Surefire picks:
IUP over Mansfield
UPJ over Bloomsburg
ESU over Clarion
Millersville over Edinboro
These ones get a little more tricky:
Cal over Ship
Mercyhurst over WCU
SRU over Shepherd
Kutztown over Gannon
Seton Hill over Lock Haven
I'd probably take the SH/LH game off the board until the starting lineups are announced. If SH's PG doesn't play, LH may win that one.
I wouldn't bet that Mercyhurst/WCU game even with IUPAlum's money. Well, maybe I would. That long layoff is too hard to predict. But, that Lakers' defense causes everybody problems.
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Tomorrow night kicks off the first Crossover Weekend of the season. All games will be played in the East. Here's a quick look at each West teams' doubleheader and season to date -- and, of course, a weekend prediction:
IUP (5-0) - On paper, the Crimson Hawks are heavily favored in both games against Mansfield and Bloomsburg. IUP has played a tough schedule to start the season (mostly on the road) and has battled through a good bit of adversity off the court. One thing to keep in mind: IUP has oddly had some struggles at Mansfield its past three visits. All were wins, but IUP probably didn't cover the spread in any of them. Prediction: Too much firepower and experience for young teams to handle for 40 minutes. IUP goes 2-0.
Mercyhurst (1-0) - The Lakers are the mystery team thus far having played just once - a 1-pont win over Daemen. In fact, the Lakers will tip-off at West Chester tomorrow night having not played against an opponent in nearly three weeks. Very odd scheduling, but regardless, defense travels. West Chester is no slouch and that is a tough building for visitors. Mercyhurst finishes the weekend at Millersville. These two met twice late last season -- in the PSAC Tournament and again in the NCAA Tournament. The Marauders' star senior guard, Jaden Faulkner, has not played yet this season. Prediction: Some rusty play is inevitable -- especially against opponents who have played 5+ games. Also, that Daemen team Mercyhurst barely beat ... got run out of the gym at Slippery Rock. Lakers split.
Slippery Rock (5-0) - The Rock is legit. This team has a great blend of strong guards and talented, physical post players. Most of SRU's rotation is older, upperclassmen who have played a lot of college basketball. If you haven't heard of (newcomer) power forward Khalid Gates yet ... you will soon enough. The visit to Shepherd tomorrow will be an old-fashioned street fight. Both are built similarly. SRU then makes the short trip to Shippensburg. Tough weekend. Prediction: Split.
Seton Hill (5-1) - The Griffins have certainly been one of the biggest surprises in the Atlantic Region. With most of last year's (well, not good) team back -- as well as a new head coach, expectations were dismal in Greensburg. Then, of course, Seton Hill opened the season with 5 straight blowouts -- including wins against some strong programs (Notre Dame and Shippensburg). Adversity struck in their past game as star point guard Sean Dillon didn't play. The Griffins then lost a 2 OT game at Davis & Elkins (another surprise team). Dillon is a legit PSAC point guard and really drives the ship for Seton Hill. With his status unknown, their weekend is a little harder to predict. The Griffins play Lock Haven and Mansfield. The Bald Eagles are no walk in the park. Prediction: If Dillon returns, Seton Hill will go 2-0. If he misses all weekend, figure a split.
California (3-3) - The Vulcans have a BIG one tomorrow night at Shippensburg. Both entered this season with NCAA hopes but both have three early losses. Getting a 4th loss by December 2 is big trouble. Cal has had major injury problems -- two starters have missed the entire season. One, senior point guard Zyan Collins, may be back soon. The Vulcans will be better with them, but have also been pretty good without them. Cal finishes the weekend at Lock Haven. Prediction: Two tough games -- especially short-handed. A split seems the smart bet but don't be shocked if the Vulcans sweep.
Pitt-Johnstown (3-2) - UPJ should light up a winless Bloomsburg tomorrow night before a Saturday night showdown with East Stroudsburg. The Warriors' style of play shouldn't catch them off guard, as UPJ has already played West Liberty and Nova Southeastern. The difference will be the depth. ESU has a ton and UPJ doesn't. Prediction: Split. UPJ will battle ESU for about 25-30 minutes but run out of gas down the stretch. UPJ is a good team -- and, could be a very strong half-court team, but their short bench will be too problematic in these 40-minute sprints.
Edinboro (2-3) - The Fighting Scots draw Millersville and Shepherd. Aside from their opening blowout loss at Fairmont State, Edinboro has been pretty competitive. The Scots dropped a heartbreaker to Glenville State (73-72) and a tight one to Salem (72-67). They defeated Tiffin and Roberts Wesleyan. Prediction: Edinboro will compete in both games, but likely get swept.
Gannon (0-4) - What is going on in the Hammermill (I forget the new name)? Well, the good news (for somebody) is that one team is going to get a win tomorrow night. Kutztown is also amazingly off to an 0-5 start. Both of these teams have talent. Gannon then plays at West Chester. Prediction: Kutztown is a couple buckets away from being 3-2 rather than 0-5. They are overly due for some bounces to go their way. Vegas probably says GU is looking at getting swept.
Clarion (2-2) - The Golden Eagles are winless against D2 competition. A Friday night trip to East Stroudsburg isn't going to help matters. Clarion then caps off the weekend at Kutztown. Prediction: Gerald Jarmon can get red hot. If he does, they may have a shot at Kutztown. But, getting swept is likely.
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Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View PostLatest NABC Top 25 (Men's):
3. IUP (1)
5. West Liberty
12. Fairmont State
20. Virginia Union
Votes: West Virginia State, West Chester, Mercyhurst
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Latest D2SIDA Top 25 (Men's):
2. IUP
6. West Liberty
15. Fairmont State
25. West Virginia State
Votes: Virginia Union
East Stroudsburg not even getting votes in either poll is a travesty.
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Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View PostLatest NABC Top 25 (Men's):
3. IUP (1)
5. West Liberty
12. Fairmont State
20. Virginia Union
Votes: West Virginia State, West Chester, Mercyhurst
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Latest D2SIDA Top 25 (Men's):
2. IUP
6. West Liberty
15. Fairmont State
25. West Virginia State
Votes: Virginia Union
East Stroudsburg not even getting votes in either poll is a travesty.
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Latest NABC Top 25 (Men's):
3. IUP (1)
5. West Liberty
12. Fairmont State
20. Virginia Union
Votes: West Virginia State, West Chester, Mercyhurst
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Latest D2SIDA Top 25 (Men's):
2. IUP
6. West Liberty
15. Fairmont State
25. West Virginia State
Votes: Virginia Union
East Stroudsburg not even getting votes in either poll is a travesty.
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Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View PostSeton Hill lost a tough one in 2OT at Davis & Elkins, 100-95.
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Seton Hill lost a tough one in 2OT at Davis & Elkins, 100-95.
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Originally posted by IUPHawks24 View Post
That's a good point. I'm sure they were related. That year was the beginning of the great run Mercyhurst has been on- as well as the beginning of IUP's absolutely ridiculous run. Just looked it up:
Mercyhurst
2017-18 13-14 No Tourney
2018-19 26-8 NCAA Elite Eight
2019-20 20-8 NCAA (COVID Cancellation)
2020-21 12-1 NCAA 2nd Round
2021-22 25-7 NCAA 2nd Round
IUP
2017-18 22-8 No Tourney
2018-19. 30-3 NCAA 2nd Round
2019-20 28-2 NCAA (COVID Cancellation- What Could've Been)
2020-21 Season Cancelled
2021-22 33-3 NCAA Final Four
Including this year, IUP is 96-8 since the start of the 2018-19 season. That's mind boggling. Mercyhurst is 84-24. I think both Lombardi and Manchel will coach longer than one might think if they can somehow sustain the level of success (which will be incredibly difficult). Jeff Wilson at ESU is another extremely successful coach and a little bit younger I believe, but I don't see any of these guys giving it up in the next five years given the current or similar trajectory.
With Shawndale that team may have won the last game of the season. But, we'll never know.
Regardless, it was probably my favorite season in a long time. Ethan's trey to seal the Regional Final was the best moment ever in the KCAC. That place exploded.
Crazy to think they've lost a star early in the season -- for the season -- both of the past two seasons. Go find any wood you have and knock on it lol.Last edited by IUPbigINDIANS; 11-28-2022, 04:43 PM.
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Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post
I'm not sure if they made a run at Manchel or not. Recall, at that time, Mercyhurst was rolling (they still are to an extent). Manchel signed a nice extension right around that time period -- likely not a coincidence. I really thought they should have hired Kevin Reynolds (their longtime nemesis). But, his situation was a little too murky at the time.
Jefferson's had two full seasons (and the Covid year). In his two full years, he's gone 14-13 in each -- both ending with getting blown out in Rd. 1 of the PSAC Tournament. Now add this 0-4 start, which his team has looked pretty hapless, and it's probably pretty easy to see how a once-vibrant fanbase is losing its mind.
The West will start to get a facelift in the coming years. Manchel and Lombardi aren't going to coach forever. I'd say -- max -- both have 2-4 years left. Both jobs will be highly-coveted within the D2 universe.
Just a guess, but I'd say the Gannon and Clarion jobs will both open at the end of this season. Seton Hill's hot start -- with a first-year coach -- surely isn't going unnoticed.
And, KR, BTW, is close by down at Point Park. Just sayin'
Mercyhurst
2017-18 13-14 No Tourney
2018-19 26-8 NCAA Elite Eight
2019-20 20-8 NCAA (COVID Cancellation)
2020-21 12-1 NCAA 2nd Round
2021-22 25-7 NCAA 2nd Round
IUP
2017-18 22-8 No Tourney
2018-19. 30-3 NCAA 2nd Round
2019-20 28-2 NCAA (COVID Cancellation- What Could've Been)
2020-21 Season Cancelled
2021-22 33-3 NCAA Final Four
Including this year, IUP is 96-8 since the start of the 2018-19 season. That's mind boggling. Mercyhurst is 84-24. I think both Lombardi and Manchel will coach longer than one might think if they can somehow sustain the level of success (which will be incredibly difficult). Jeff Wilson at ESU is another extremely successful coach and a little bit younger I believe, but I don't see any of these guys giving it up in the next five years given the current or similar trajectory.
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Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View PostUPDATED MEN'S STANDINGS (thru games played 11-27-2022)
TEAM OVERALL STREAK IUP 5-0 W5 Mercyhurst 1-0 W1 Seton Hill 5-0 W5 Slippery Rock 5-0 W5 Pitt-Johnstown 3-2 L1 California 3-3 W1 Edinboro 2-3 L1 Clarion 1-2 W1 Gannon 0-4 L4
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Originally posted by IUPHawks24 View Post
Gannon has a really odd roster. Looks like Dodds is out with injury too? A ton of players, but no clear rotation right now. It’s still early. Mims is a solid player, but his shooting numbers are atrocious right now. Clancy probably needs some time to get his game legs back too after missing last year.
Jefferson doesn’t always look like he wants to be there when he’s coaching. If they have the $$$ that some people say they do, I don’t know why they didn’t make a run at Manchel the last time the job opened. Someone like Sancomb would be an interesting option too. However, both Cal and Mercyhurst are good jobs in their own right. It’s ironic, they fired Riley for not winning enough but he was in the NCAA’s the year prior to getting fired in ‘19.
Jefferson's had two full seasons (and the Covid year). In his two full years, he's gone 14-13 in each -- both ending with getting blown out in Rd. 1 of the PSAC Tournament. Now add this 0-4 start, which his team has looked pretty hapless, and it's probably pretty easy to see how a once-vibrant fanbase is losing its mind.
The West will start to get a facelift in the coming years. Manchel and Lombardi aren't going to coach forever. I'd say -- max -- both have 2-4 years left. Both jobs will be highly-coveted within the D2 universe.
Just a guess, but I'd say the Gannon and Clarion jobs will both open at the end of this season. Seton Hill's hot start -- with a first-year coach -- surely isn't going unnoticed.
And, KR, BTW, is close by down at Point Park. Just sayin'
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UPDATED MEN'S STANDINGS (thru games played 11-27-2022)
TEAM OVERALL STREAK IUP 5-0 W5 Mercyhurst 1-0 W1 Seton Hill 5-0 W5 Slippery Rock 5-0 W5 Pitt-Johnstown 3-2 L1 California 3-3 W1 Edinboro 2-3 L1 Clarion 1-2 W1 Gannon 0-4 L4
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Unfortunately,I won’t be going to the AngeloDome very often this year. 154-mile round-trip for me never bothered me, but now the fuel is just too much.
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