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[WarriorVoice]

Latest NABC Top 25 (Men's):

3. IUP (1)
5. West Liberty
12. Fairmont State
20. Virginia Union

Votes: West Virginia State, West Chester, Mercyhurst

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Latest D2SIDA Top 25 (Men's):

2. IUP
6. West Liberty
15. Fairmont State
25. West Virginia State

Votes: Virginia Union



East Stroudsburg not even getting votes in either poll is a travesty.

Shhhhh. Let the Warriors stay under the radar...

[Ship69]

Latest NABC Top 25 (Men's):

3. IUP (1)
5. West Liberty
12. Fairmont State
20. Virginia Union

Votes: West Virginia State, West Chester, Mercyhurst

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Latest D2SIDA Top 25 (Men's):

2. IUP
6. West Liberty
15. Fairmont State
25. West Virginia State

Votes: Virginia Union



East Stroudsburg not even getting votes in either poll is a travesty.

Really. A scuffling Ship team lost to Virginia Union by four points, and they're ranked 20th in the one poll and just outside in the other. It is a surprise as Wilson is a known quantity among area D2 coaches.

[Scrub]

East Stroudsburg not even getting votes in either poll is a travesty.

And it's not like they're an unknown quantity either. Wilson has some stature in the larger D2 community.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

Latest NABC Top 25 (Men's):

3. IUP (1)
5. West Liberty
12. Fairmont State
20. Virginia Union

Votes: West Virginia State, West Chester, Mercyhurst

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Latest D2SIDA Top 25 (Men's):

2. IUP
6. West Liberty
15. Fairmont State
25. West Virginia State

Votes: Virginia Union



East Stroudsburg not even getting votes in either poll is a travesty.

[IUPHawks24]

Seton Hill lost a tough one in 2OT at Davis & Elkins, 100-95.

Looks like Dillon didn’t play. Big hole for them if he’s out.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

Seton Hill lost a tough one in 2OT at Davis & Elkins, 100-95.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

That's a good point. I'm sure they were related. That year was the beginning of the great run Mercyhurst has been on- as well as the beginning of IUP's absolutely ridiculous run. Just looked it up:

Mercyhurst

2017-18 13-14 No Tourney
2018-19 26-8 NCAA Elite Eight
2019-20 20-8 NCAA (COVID Cancellation)
2020-21 12-1 NCAA 2nd Round
2021-22 25-7 NCAA 2nd Round

IUP

2017-18 22-8 No Tourney
2018-19. 30-3 NCAA 2nd Round
2019-20 28-2 NCAA (COVID Cancellation- What Could've Been)
2020-21 Season Cancelled
2021-22 33-3 NCAA Final Four

Including this year, IUP is 96-8 since the start of the 2018-19 season. That's mind boggling. Mercyhurst is 84-24. I think both Lombardi and Manchel will coach longer than one might think if they can somehow sustain the level of success (which will be incredibly difficult). Jeff Wilson at ESU is another extremely successful coach and a little bit younger I believe, but I don't see any of these guys giving it up in the next five years given the current or similar trajectory.

As great as last year was I think we'll always wonder 'what if' about it ... at least a little. They made the Final Four without their top scorer for all by 6.5 games. That was incredible.

With Shawndale that team may have won the last game of the season. But, we'll never know.

Regardless, it was probably my favorite season in a long time. Ethan's trey to seal the Regional Final was the best moment ever in the KCAC. That place exploded.

Crazy to think they've lost a star early in the season -- for the season -- both of the past two seasons. Go find any wood you have and knock on it lol.

[IUPHawks24]

I'm not sure if they made a run at Manchel or not. Recall, at that time, Mercyhurst was rolling (they still are to an extent). Manchel signed a nice extension right around that time period -- likely not a coincidence. I really thought they should have hired Kevin Reynolds (their longtime nemesis). But, his situation was a little too murky at the time.

Jefferson's had two full seasons (and the Covid year). In his two full years, he's gone 14-13 in each -- both ending with getting blown out in Rd. 1 of the PSAC Tournament. Now add this 0-4 start, which his team has looked pretty hapless, and it's probably pretty easy to see how a once-vibrant fanbase is losing its mind.

The West will start to get a facelift in the coming years. Manchel and Lombardi aren't going to coach forever. I'd say -- max -- both have 2-4 years left. Both jobs will be highly-coveted within the D2 universe.

Just a guess, but I'd say the Gannon and Clarion jobs will both open at the end of this season. Seton Hill's hot start -- with a first-year coach -- surely isn't going unnoticed.

And, KR, BTW, is close by down at Point Park. Just sayin'

That's a good point. I'm sure they were related. That year was the beginning of the great run Mercyhurst has been on- as well as the beginning of IUP's absolutely ridiculous run. Just looked it up:

Mercyhurst

2017-18 13-14 No Tourney
2018-19 26-8 NCAA Elite Eight
2019-20 20-8 NCAA (COVID Cancellation)
2020-21 12-1 NCAA 2nd Round
2021-22 25-7 NCAA 2nd Round

IUP

2017-18 22-8 No Tourney
2018-19. 30-3 NCAA 2nd Round
2019-20 28-2 NCAA (COVID Cancellation- What Could've Been)
2020-21 Season Cancelled
2021-22 33-3 NCAA Final Four

Including this year, IUP is 96-8 since the start of the 2018-19 season. That's mind boggling. Mercyhurst is 84-24. I think both Lombardi and Manchel will coach longer than one might think if they can somehow sustain the level of success (which will be incredibly difficult). Jeff Wilson at ESU is another extremely successful coach and a little bit younger I believe, but I don't see any of these guys giving it up in the next five years given the current or similar trajectory.

[IUPalum]

UPDATED MEN'S STANDINGS (thru games played 11-27-2022)

TEAM	OVERALL	STREAK
IUP	5-0	W5
Mercyhurst	1-0	W1
Seton Hill	5-0	W5
Slippery Rock	5-0	W5
Pitt-Johnstown	3-2	L1
California	3-3	W1
Edinboro	2-3	L1
Clarion	1-2	W1
Gannon	0-4	L4

SRU and SH look a lot better than I expected. They could cause trouble down the road.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

Gannon has a really odd roster. Looks like Dodds is out with injury too? A ton of players, but no clear rotation right now. It’s still early. Mims is a solid player, but his shooting numbers are atrocious right now. Clancy probably needs some time to get his game legs back too after missing last year.

Jefferson doesn’t always look like he wants to be there when he’s coaching. If they have the $$$ that some people say they do, I don’t know why they didn’t make a run at Manchel the last time the job opened. Someone like Sancomb would be an interesting option too. However, both Cal and Mercyhurst are good jobs in their own right. It’s ironic, they fired Riley for not winning enough but he was in the NCAA’s the year prior to getting fired in ‘19.

I'm not sure if they made a run at Manchel or not. Recall, at that time, Mercyhurst was rolling (they still are to an extent). Manchel signed a nice extension right around that time period -- likely not a coincidence. I really thought they should have hired Kevin Reynolds (their longtime nemesis). But, his situation was a little too murky at the time.

Jefferson's had two full seasons (and the Covid year). In his two full years, he's gone 14-13 in each -- both ending with getting blown out in Rd. 1 of the PSAC Tournament. Now add this 0-4 start, which his team has looked pretty hapless, and it's probably pretty easy to see how a once-vibrant fanbase is losing its mind.

The West will start to get a facelift in the coming years. Manchel and Lombardi aren't going to coach forever. I'd say -- max -- both have 2-4 years left. Both jobs will be highly-coveted within the D2 universe.

Just a guess, but I'd say the Gannon and Clarion jobs will both open at the end of this season. Seton Hill's hot start -- with a first-year coach -- surely isn't going unnoticed.

And, KR, BTW, is close by down at Point Park. Just sayin'

[IUPbigINDIANS]

UPDATED MEN'S STANDINGS (thru games played 11-27-2022)

TEAM	OVERALL	STREAK
IUP	5-0	W5
Mercyhurst	1-0	W1
Seton Hill	5-0	W5
Slippery Rock	5-0	W5
Pitt-Johnstown	3-2	L1
California	3-3	W1
Edinboro	2-3	L1
Clarion	1-2	W1
Gannon	0-4	L4

[Feedoggie]

Unfortunately,I won’t be going to the AngeloDome very often this year. 154-mile round-trip for me never bothered me, but now the fuel is just too much.

[IUPalum]

Gannon has a really odd roster. Looks like Dodds is out with injury too? A ton of players, but no clear rotation right now. It’s still early. Mims is a solid player, but his shooting numbers are atrocious right now. Clancy probably needs some time to get his game legs back too after missing last year.

Jefferson doesn’t always look like he wants to be there when he’s coaching. If they have the $$$ that some people say they do, I don’t know why they didn’t make a run at Manchel the last time the job opened. Someone like Sancomb would be an interesting option too. However, both Cal and Mercyhurst are good jobs in their own right. It’s ironic, they fired Riley for not winning enough but he was in the NCAA’s the year prior to getting fired in ‘19.

Riley was railroaded out by a twat of an AD, boosters that didn’t like his style and they wanted to free up cash to rehire Cleve Wright for the girls program. Complete utter joke! I can tell you this much, the boosters aren’t happy now!

[IUPHawks24]

Gannon swept in The Gary Miller Classic and now 0-4.

Wow. That seat may be getting hot in Erie.

Gannon has a really odd roster. Looks like Dodds is out with injury too? A ton of players, but no clear rotation right now. It’s still early. Mims is a solid player, but his shooting numbers are atrocious right now. Clancy probably needs some time to get his game legs back too after missing last year.

Jefferson doesn’t always look like he wants to be there when he’s coaching. If they have the $$$ that some people say they do, I don’t know why they didn’t make a run at Manchel the last time the job opened. Someone like Sancomb would be an interesting option too. However, both Cal and Mercyhurst are good jobs in their own right. It’s ironic, they fired Riley for not winning enough but he was in the NCAA’s the year prior to getting fired in ‘19.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

Gannon swept in The Gary Miller Classic and now 0-4.

Wow. That seat may be getting hot in Erie.