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Re: Atlantic Regional
I'm not saying IUP deserved to be in BUT I'd love to see the numbers. Gannon 22-9 with a bad loss, IUP 22-8 no bad losses and Ship 23-7 with two bad losses and very weak nonconference schedule. Food for thought.
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Originally posted by IUPalum View PostI'm not saying IUP deserved to be in BUT I'd love to see the numbers. Gannon 22-9 with a bad loss, IUP 22-8 no bad losses and Ship 23-7 with two bad losses and very weak nonconference schedule. Food for thought.
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I didn't like the seedings.
Why play two immediate rematches?
The way Virginia State has played down the stretch ... I'm not even sure the host is favored in Round 1. The 8 vs 1 is usually a blowout ... this is one of the tougher games to pick on Day 1.
Gannon would have been far better off getting the 8 seed instead of the 7 seed at this point.
Without Pat Moseh, Wheeling is going to have its hands full with West Chester. Who would have believed Wheeling could win the MEC Tournament without Pat Moseh and also not have to play either Fairmont or WL. Incredible.
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I agree with you in some respects, IUP 24....If you're WL, don't lose to Charleston in semi's of conf tourney...but my overall rant goes to the conference tourneys in general...d2 level and d1 level...Why is their a greater emphasis placed on what a team does over 4 days / 4 games in a conference tourney than over 22 games over 2 months? WL won MEC conference by 2 games over WJ...Split the regular season with WJ, and WJ beats Concord and Charleston to win the MEC, and that's better than WL....
I agree WL OOC schedule is not murderer's row, and i'd like them to schedule better, but to sink to a 4 seed...
And Same with IUP...IUP wins the PSAC West regular season with 2 game cushion over gannon...I think it's much harder to win the regular season conference title and should be valued as such, more than a 4 day tourney....
That's all...
That being said, I think winner of Ship -WL beats Va State / VA union winner...
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Re: Atlantic Regional
Originally posted by IUPalum View PostI'm not saying IUP deserved to be in BUT I'd love to see the numbers. Gannon 22-9 with a bad loss, IUP 22-8 no bad losses and Ship 23-7 with two bad losses and very weak nonconference schedule. Food for thought.
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My point exactly, VU gets in with 14 losses b/c they got hot for 4 days? UC almost steals another spot with 13 losses. It makes no sense!!! You could make a strong case for both IUP and Kutztown to be in the field.
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I'm a Ship guy and still am shocked they got in over IUP as we split in our H2H with them, split with Gannon and didn't play a good out of conference schedule at all this season. This year's team is too inconsistent and I can see us being 1 and done again this year unfortunately. I'm more shocked that our women's team took such a nose dive this year as we had what I thought was a pretty good young and sort of experienced team returning mixed in with the freshman.
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Originally posted by shipfbfan12 View PostI'm a Ship guy and still am shocked they got in over IUP as we split in our H2H with them, split with Gannon and didn't play a good out of conference schedule at all this season. This year's team is too inconsistent and I can see us being 1 and done again this year unfortunately. I'm more shocked that our women's team took such a nose dive this year as we had what I thought was a pretty good young and sort of experienced team returning mixed in with the freshman.
Ship didn't play IUP this year. Also, Ship wasn't one-and-done last year. They lost to Wheeling Jesuit in the second round after blowing a big second half lead when Sleva got in foul trouble.
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Originally posted by IUP Extra Mile View PostI agree with you in some respects, IUP 24....If you're WL, don't lose to Charleston in semi's of conf tourney...but my overall rant goes to the conference tourneys in general...d2 level and d1 level...Why is their a greater emphasis placed on what a team does over 4 days / 4 games in a conference tourney than over 22 games over 2 months? WL won MEC conference by 2 games over WJ...Split the regular season with WJ, and WJ beats Concord and Charleston to win the MEC, and that's better than WL....
I agree WL OOC schedule is not murderer's row, and i'd like them to schedule better, but to sink to a 4 seed...
And Same with IUP...IUP wins the PSAC West regular season with 2 game cushion over gannon...I think it's much harder to win the regular season conference title and should be valued as such, more than a 4 day tourney....
That's all...
That being said, I think winner of Ship -WL beats Va State / VA union winner...
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As far as WL getting the #4, it is where they should be. Yes, they won the MEC by 2 games, but they split with WJ with the deciding factors coming with this weekend and then even more WJ's SOS continues to be far better than WL's SOS. When you play 1 above .500 team out of conference it doesn't help compared to WJ's 3 Atlantic Region qualifying teams out of conference.
Overall, this more than the last 2 years, the region can see virtually any of the 8 take home the title.
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Originally posted by IUP Extra Mile View PostI agree with you in some respects, IUP 24....If you're WL, don't lose to Charleston in semi's of conf tourney...but my overall rant goes to the conference tourneys in general...d2 level and d1 level...Why is their a greater emphasis placed on what a team does over 4 days / 4 games in a conference tourney than over 22 games over 2 months? WL won MEC conference by 2 games over WJ...Split the regular season with WJ, and WJ beats Concord and Charleston to win the MEC, and that's better than WL....
I agree WL OOC schedule is not murderer's row, and i'd like them to schedule better, but to sink to a 4 seed...
And Same with IUP...IUP wins the PSAC West regular season with 2 game cushion over gannon...I think it's much harder to win the regular season conference title and should be valued as such, more than a 4 day tourney....
That's all...
That being said, I think winner of Ship -WL beats Va State / VA union winner...
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Originally posted by pennbraz View PostAs far as WL getting the #4, it is where they should be. Yes, they won the MEC by 2 games, but they split with WJ with the deciding factors coming with this weekend and then even more WJ's SOS continues to be far better than WL's SOS. When you play 1 above .500 team out of conference it doesn't help compared to WJ's 3 Atlantic Region qualifying teams out of conference.
Overall, this more than the last 2 years, the region can see virtually any of the 8 take home the title.
And why not talk about WJ's bad losses to Va WIse and Shepherd...that should affect the seeding too...
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Re: Atlantic Regional
Hopefully our guys use the #4 seed as motivation. Good news is we won't play a rematch until possibly the Regional Championship game. I think teams struggle the first time they play us more so than the second time they play us.
Either way, this is our 9th straight NCAA Tournament Bid!
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