NSIC - conference season chat

[NSUgrad]

You can find the complete lists of meetings on pages 35–37 here: https://s3.us-east-2.amazonaws.com/s...2022Update.pdf

Makes you wonder why the person that wrote the Game Notes didn't do that. SMSU game notes provide further discrepancies: •SMSU and Northern State meet for the 100th time with NSU leading 68-31 in series that started in 1972-73.

https://smsumustangs.com/documents/2...ek9MSUMNSU.pdf

[Inkblot]

You can find the complete lists of meetings on pages 35–37 here: https://s3.us-east-2.amazonaws.com/s...2022Update.pdf

[NSUgrad]

On a fun side note that was the 100th meeting between NSU and USF and the 99th meeting between NSU and SMSU, atleast according to the Wolves history keeping.

Wolves lead USF 75-25 and SMSU 71-28

It's interesting that the same release from NSU states:

NSU vs. USF All-Time: 41-17
Sioux Falls............................................. ..........74-24 (1-1)
• Northern is 41-17 all-time against Sioux Falls

NSU vs. SMSU All-Time: 40-19
Southwest Minnesota State............................71-26 (3-0)
• The Wolves are 40-19 all-time against the Mustangs

I only took the time to look because I thought it was odd that the number of meetings was so close. I have been following NSU for 35+ years and I don't remember them playing USF for most of that time prior to them joining the conference in 2012. The larger numbers coupled with the losses this past weekend would equate to the 99th and 98th meetings of the teams, which is also different (by 1) from the numbers that you had.

I think we can say for certain that it was a meeting between teams that had played each other before.
https://nsuwolves.com/documents/2023...B_USF_SMSU.pdf

[MrMustang]

every NSIC game is a crap shoot. I would not say we are deep at this point either. Some injuries and we haven't had the same rotation any weekend for months due to different players hurt

but our core 7-8 is playing very well lately so it has been fun

[MrMustang]

And yet SMSU lost to an extremely shallow Augustana team. SPORTS!

every NSIC game is a crap shoot. I would not say we are deep at this point either. Some injuries and we haven't had the same rotation any weekend for months due to different players hurt

[Stanger86]

And yet SMSU lost to an extremely shallow Augustana team. SPORTS!

In fairness, the SMSU rotation has shifted quite a bit since that weekend. Mustangs are 7-3 since the switch.

[Augieholic]

You guys have mentioned it in other threads...Northern isn't deep. The Mustangs make you WORK for everything on both ends...I think that leads to a quicker fatigue, and depth becomes more important.

And yet SMSU lost to an extremely shallow Augustana team. SPORTS!

[Stanger86]

Last weekend was very disappointing for NSU coming off the big weekday win at Moorhead. I knew the USF game would be a grind, but the Wolves had some good opportunities to win that one. The SMSU game was kind of a stinker. Credit to the Mustangs for winning, but the Wolves didn't look good. Credit where it is due, Kobe gave NSU a boost of energy and even made a shot. However, the fact that Saul saw it necessary for Kobe to play that much is a pretty good indication of how the rest of the team looked. The NSIC is a tough league and you need to come ready to play almost every night (you can take the Crookston games off). Northern will need to bounce back with Mankato coming to town on Friday for what should be a good game.

You guys have mentioned it in other threads...Northern isn't deep. The Mustangs make you WORK for everything on both ends...I think that leads to a quicker fatigue, and depth becomes more important.

[Stanger86]

Saw some of first half of USF but didn't see any of the SMSU. Mustangs always play good defense it seems like.

On a fun side note that was the 100th meeting between NSU and USF and the 99th meeting between NSU and SMSU, atleast according to the Wolves history keeping.

Wolves lead USF 75-25 and SMSU 71-28

I saw someone post this on Twitter last night. What we're seeing from the Mustangs defensively this season is at historic levels....up there with DeMasi's senior year (Elite Eight) and with Klomp's senior year.

[NSU4LIFE]

Last weekend was very disappointing for NSU coming off the big weekday win at Moorhead. I knew the USF game would be a grind, but the Wolves had some good opportunities to win that one. The SMSU game was kind of a stinker. Credit to the Mustangs for winning, but the Wolves didn't look good. Credit where it is due, Kobe gave NSU a boost of energy and even made a shot. However, the fact that Saul saw it necessary for Kobe to play that much is a pretty good indication of how the rest of the team looked. The NSIC is a tough league and you need to come ready to play almost every night (you can take the Crookston games off). Northern will need to bounce back with Mankato coming to town on Friday for what should be a good game.

Saw some of first half of USF but didn't see any of the SMSU. Mustangs always play good defense it seems like.

On a fun side note that was the 100th meeting between NSU and USF and the 99th meeting between NSU and SMSU, atleast according to the Wolves history keeping.

Wolves lead USF 75-25 and SMSU 71-28

[Thunder]

Last weekend was very disappointing for NSU coming off the big weekday win at Moorhead. I knew the USF game would be a grind, but the Wolves had some good opportunities to win that one. The SMSU game was kind of a stinker. Credit to the Mustangs for winning, but the Wolves didn't look good. Credit where it is due, Kobe gave NSU a boost of energy and even made a shot. However, the fact that Saul saw it necessary for Kobe to play that much is a pretty good indication of how the rest of the team looked. The NSIC is a tough league and you need to come ready to play almost every night (you can take the Crookston games off). Northern will need to bounce back with Mankato coming to town on Friday for what should be a good game.

[DapperDan]

It's been so long since Winona last made it that you need a reminder of how it works?

That’s about right but I was referring to the conference tournament as I thought that’s what the reference was. Speculated maybe they cut back on teams along the lines of years ago. Thoughts of Augustana making the regional are ludicrous. Winona is ahead of them for crying out loud.

[MrAugustana]

Not really, I was trying to be generous. But going 9-1 and 3-1 in the conference tournament would put them at 18-12 which could have them in contention if their SOS is good enough.

No need to be generous. I suspect we're a year or two away from really being where we want to be again. Not that I'll complain if we go on a late-season run that defies the odds. :)

[Inkblot]

So are you saying Augustana at 16-12 would have a chance at the regional without winning the nsic tournament?

Not really, I was trying to be generous. But going 9-1 and 3-1 in the conference tournament would put them at 18-12 which could have them in contention if their SOS is good enough.

[Moorhead123]

If they don't win the NSIC tournament, they'll have to go something like 8-2 to finish the regular season.

So are you saying Augustana at 16-12 would have a chance at the regional without winning the nsic tournament?