Nice pick up but why does one leave the sunshine state for Indiana, PA? If it's to chase a NCAA title there's other schools in the GSC he could have gone too (unless his release was based upon him leaving the region).
maybe Subs n' Suds pizza is a better recruiting tool than one would think
Which got me now just thinking that I wouldn't exactly say I attended IUP during a golden age of quarterback play. I caught one year of Lenny, but the rest was filled with Mike Box, Pat Smith, the infamous Chase Haslett experience (Quite possibly the only IUP player to openly complain about Jack Benedict) and Eddie Stockett. Outside of Lenny, the players to have the best success from the quarterback group were probably Steve Franco and Mike P...on the defensive side of the ball.
maybe Subs n' Suds pizza is a better recruiting tool than one would think
MSU-Mankato used to have a place called something like Soap and Suds on the edge of campus. It was a laundromat that served beer while you waited for your clothes to wash. Seemed to be a popular spot but it disappeared years ago.
Which got me now just thinking that I wouldn't exactly say I attended IUP during a golden age of quarterback play. I caught one year of Lenny, but the rest was filled with Mike Box, Pat Smith, the infamous Chase Haslett experience (Quite possibly the only IUP player to openly complain about Jack Benedict) and Eddie Stockett. Outside of Lenny, the players to have the best success from the quarterback group were probably Steve Franco and Mike P...on the defensive side of the ball.
Box was OK - the clear best of the group you mentioned , if he'd have completed that last pass against WSSU in 2012, he'd be a hero. Sadly he is probably remembered more for his meltdown against boro in 2013.
As you say I think that we have to view the whole body of work before he can be judged with a full measure of validity by the football historian crowd.
Excluding Lenny from the equation since he is a current player---these five get my vote as the top five QBs in IUP football history. I also will exclude Lynn Hieber of the mid-1970s since he was before my time, but sounds like he was one heck of a QB.
1. Tony Aliucci- took IUP to its first national title game and was the Harlon Hill runner-up his senior year when IUP very well may have won a national title if not for his unfortunate injury in the semifinal. It is just plain wrong that IUP has not inducted him into their Athletic Hall of Fame!
2. Rich Ingold- he gave IUP its first superstar in the revamped IUP football program of the Chaump-Cignetti era and established the template for which all other IUP QBs would be judged. The guy was just plain good and upped the ante of what IUP football would go on to be all about.
3. Brian Eyerman- took IUP to the playoffs four straight years with stellar QB play. Before Lenny came to campus he was the last of the elite QBs that did so much to raise IUP's fortunes on the national level.
4. Scott Woods- he may even be the second best in arguments. He took IUP to the '93 title game when IUP came all so agonizingly close to winning it all one December afternoon down in Florence, Alabama. Awesome player.
5. (tie) Jim Pehanick/Ken Ferguson- Penhanick led IUP to its first NCAA playoff bid in '87 and lit it up throwing to the great Tony Trave. Ferguson took IUP to the '94 national semifinals.
Right now as things stand, Lenny at worst likely has at the very least #5 spot on the all-time best list. Maybe higher. Probably a lot of it will ride on what he does his senior year. Win a national title or win the Harlon Hill and he could easily vault to the top of this list.
As you say I think that we have to view the whole body of work before he can be judged with a full measure of validity by the football historian crowd.
Excluding Lenny from the equation since he is a current player---these five get my vote as the top five QBs in IUP football history. I also will exclude Lynn Hieber of the mid-1970s since he was before my time, but sounds like he was one heck of a QB.
1. Tony Aliucci- took IUP to its first national title game and was the Harlon Hill runner-up his senior year when IUP very well may have won a national title if not for his unfortunate injury in the semifinal. It is just plain wrong that IUP has not inducted him into their Athletic Hall of Fame!
2. Rich Ingold- he gave IUP its first superstar in the revamped IUP football program of the Chaump-Cignetti era and established the template for which all other IUP QBs would be judged. The guy was just plain good and upped the ante of what IUP football would go on to be all about.
3. Brian Eyerman- took IUP to the playoffs four straight years with stellar QB play. Before Lenny came to campus he was the last of the elite QBs that did so much to raise IUP's fortunes on the national level.
4. Scott Woods- he may even be the second best in arguments. He took IUP to the '93 title game when IUP came all so agonizingly close to winning it all one December afternoon down in Florence, Alabama. Awesome player.
5. (tie) Jim Pehanick/Ken Ferguson- Penhanick led IUP to its first NCAA playoff bid in '87 and lit it up throwing to the great Tony Trave. Ferguson took IUP to the '94 national semifinals.
Right now as things stand, Lenny at worst likely has at the very least #5 spot on the all-time best list. Maybe higher. Probably a lot of it will ride on what he does his senior year. Win a national title or win the Harlon Hill and he could easily vault to the top of this list.
It is very possible that Aliucci and Woods were actually IUP's two best QBs ever. Certainly they accomplished the most in each taking IUP to the national title game. Woods no doubt turned in his signature game up at New Haven in November 1993 in what has to at least to me be the most exciting IUP game ever. Maybe why I listed Eyerman over Woods was because of the former taking IUP to the postseason all four years he started. That's quite an accomplishment and one that Lenny can equal with a playoff berth this season. Woods started two years and his first season (1992) was marred by a 7-0 IUP team going 0-2-1 in the last three games and thus missing out on the postseason. I believe that the Clarion victory over IUP was later vacated due to some NCAA irregularity.
The asterisk next to Ingold's name would be that he probably played on teams that arguably did not have quite the talent level that some of the later QBs listed had.
Whom do you start in the biggest game of the season? You can only pick one.
Stats are stats. But, when it matters most, who gets the ball?
Interestingly I was just thinking about this today. I asked myself which IUP QB I would want in that late and final drive in crunch time?
Almost immediately I said Aliucci and Woods.
Woods has a strong resume for the pick with his clutch performance in helping bring IUP back late in the North Alabama title game and keeping pace with and getting the better of a juggernaut New Haven offense a few weeks early.
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