OT: D1

[Fightingscot82]

Question: Real Notre Dame can never get a bye in the playoffs because they’ll never be a conference champion? Is that correct? You’d think they’d join the ACC just for that reason alone.

It forced their hand in every other sport.

[IUPNation]

Question: Real Notre Dame can never get a bye in the playoffs because they’ll never be a conference champion? Is that correct? You’d think they’d join the ACC just for that reason alone.

[IUPNation]

The Champions of D2 won big..except one game….

Beat Central Oklahomastan 78-17
Beat Harding Bible Camp 41-7
Squeaked by Slimey Pebble 48-38
Beat Valdosta State 49-14

Nobody had a Pee Sack team giving them trouble at home…so any given day and yesterday a situation like that didn’t pan out ..but it could have. The first quarter of the Nits game had the makings of another James Tenandtwo coaching choke job until his defense bailed him out. The second pick 6 was awesome..that kid did not give up.

[IUPNation]

I don’t understand the entitlement that we must have close games. In March Madness there are plenty of blowouts.

No matter what they change somebody is going to bytch that a team got left out..most likely SEC fanboys.
I liked the campus playoff round especially with southern teams forced North and they got Gettysburged.

[TheBigCat2192]

That was a favorable matchup for Ohio State. Nico Iamaleava hit a freshman wall 6 weeks into the season and looked completely overwhelmed by the moment. And Tennessee had questions in their secondary all year. Once Ohio State started carving them up through the air, the run game also opened up, and it was over.

Tennessee might have had some secondary problems but I’m not sure that alone explains what happened. Howard’s an experienced, above average QB and that Smith kid is probably the best true freshman WR at a P5 school since Julio Jones or Calvin Johnson.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

The BiG was good at the top this season, but the SEC was probably the deeper overall conference. But it's the top that will win you championships. A classic case was UCLA basketball in the '60s and early '70s when Wooden's teams won title after title, but nobody who observed college basketball then would have said the Pac 8 was the best basketball conference in the country.

I suspect some of the SEC's depth will show up in the non-playoff bowls. Alabama would certainly have to be a favorite to beat Michigan, although not if the Oklahoma version of Alabama shows up. I expect future years of the expanded B1G could get tougher, as Michigan, USC, and Washington were all down this year.

The 'other' bowls are mostly JV games. You aren't watching the actual teams. They are gone. In most cases, it's what left on the roster.

Between opt-outs and portal departures, many of these teams are ravaged - and a shell of what they were 6 weeks ago.

But, some young kids get to play and the mother ship can fill some TV slots.

Round 2 should be better. Round 1 was obviously a dud in regard to close games.

All four home teams won fairly easily and I think all four even covered.

[Chuck Norris]

I enjoyed the weekend for what it was. I’d like to see close games regardless of who is playing, but that’s often just not the nature of college football. It’s why I generally prefer the NFL. But I’m excited for what we’ll have on New Year’s Eve and New Year’s Day. I’m expecting the teams that played this weekend to do well. I think it’s an advantage in a tournament like this to get a game under your belt, especially with all the games now being at neutral sites.

[Ship69]

I thought the SEC was down this year and wasn’t surprised at all that Ohio State blew out Tennessee. I saw Tennessee play a couple times and wasn’t impressed by the outcome. I don’t think Georgia is that good and Texas has a ton of talent but they’re undisciplined and inconsistent. I guess we might find out but I think the top three in the Big are all better than the top three in the SEC. On top of that, nobody is really talking about Notre Dame but they absolutely can beat Georgia in the next round.

The BiG was good at the top this season, but the SEC was probably the deeper overall conference. But it's the top that will win you championships. A classic case was UCLA basketball in the '60s and early '70s when Wooden's teams won title after title, but nobody who observed college basketball then would have said the Pac 8 was the best basketball conference in the country.

I suspect some of the SEC's depth will show up in the non-playoff bowls. Alabama would certainly have to be a favorite to beat Michigan, although not if the Oklahoma version of Alabama shows up. I expect future years of the expanded B1G could get tougher, as Michigan, USC, and Washington were all down this year.

[IUP24]

I thought the SEC was down this year and wasn’t surprised at all that Ohio State blew out Tennessee. I saw Tennessee play a couple times and wasn’t impressed by the outcome. I don’t think Georgia is that good and Texas has a ton of talent but they’re undisciplined and inconsistent. I guess we might find out but I think the top three in the Big are all better than the top three in the SEC. On top of that, nobody is really talking about Notre Dame but they absolutely can beat Georgia in the next round.

That was a favorable matchup for Ohio State. Nico Iamaleava hit a freshman wall 6 weeks into the season and looked completely overwhelmed by the moment. And Tennessee had questions in their secondary all year. Once Ohio State started carving them up through the air, the run game also opened up, and it was over.

[EyeoftheHawk]

Today's D2 score made Slippery Rock's effort against Ferris State look all that much better. Nobody else gave Ferris a competitive game in the playoffs.

As for the SEC, tonight's Ohio State-Tennessee game was fine either way with me as I never mind a Buckeye loss, but also am very tired of the constant SEC hype. Alabama can quite whining now since that Tennessee team actually beat them, along with Vandy and a 6-6 Oklahoma team.

I thought the SEC was down this year and wasn’t surprised at all that Ohio State blew out Tennessee. I saw Tennessee play a couple times and wasn’t impressed by the outcome. I don’t think Georgia is that good and Texas has a ton of talent but they’re undisciplined and inconsistent. I guess we might find out but I think the top three in the Big are all better than the top three in the SEC. On top of that, nobody is really talking about Notre Dame but they absolutely can beat Georgia in the next round.

[Ship69]

I’m glad they did. Four was too few…and the games were a month after the regular season ended.

This is better. Every other level has a sizable field..why should FBS be different? D2 could cut back to 16 teams..28 is overkill. Todays D2 game was not even competitive.

My point is now that players can get paid legally and the portal..the days of a Saban having third stringers who’d start everywhere else is over. So having 12 teams makes sense..8 would be better.

So much for the SEC being so dominant.

Today's D2 score made Slippery Rock's effort against Ferris State look all that much better. Nobody else gave Ferris a competitive game in the playoffs.

As for the SEC, tonight's Ohio State-Tennessee game was fine either way with me as I never mind a Buckeye loss, but also am very tired of the constant SEC hype. Alabama can quite whining now since that Tennessee team actually beat them, along with Vandy and a 6-6 Oklahoma team.

[IUP24]

This is a perfect year for the playoff. It's so wide open this year. And with the giant conferences there are a lot of differences in schedules. Like Indiana got a gift of schedule in the Big 10 and partly because of that they went 11-1.

There are blowouts in every level of football that has playoffs. Should the PSAC not even get in the playoffs in D2 because they arent going to win anytime soon? I could've predicted atleast 3 of the final four in the FCS bracket this year.

And there are blowouts in national title games.....Super Bowls....one team lays an egg in a big game. It's always a possibility. These games at home sites have a National Championship energy in these home crowds. I'd much rather be watching this Ohio State- Tennessee game at Ohio St on Decemeber 21st in a tournament game even though it's a dud.....than see it in a meaningless Citrus Bowl on New Years day at 1pm.

I'd also just assume see 16 teams. If theyre going to take the Big 12 Champ. A G5 champ. Alabama, South Carolina, Ole Miss, and Miami wouldve made the bracket better. 8 on campus first round games this weekend. If they're doing 4 weeks of games anyway.

Indiana got in because the Big Ten has 18 teams. 7 teams had a .500 record or better in conference. Indiana played 2 of them. 5 teams had a 6-3 conference record or better. Indiana played 1 of them. 7 teams were 3-6 or worse in conference. Indiana play 6 of them.

Cignetti got a lottery ticket in a schedule. But they had to be in at 11-1

The ACC had Miami, Clemson, and SMU all at the top of the conference and none of them played each other in the regular season.
The Big 12 had Colorado, Arizona State, Iowa St, and BYU tie for first place. Only 1 game between those teams in the regular season.

Agree with much of this. See my other post.

The issue isn’t the playoff. It’s the structure of the sport in general.

[IUP24]

The bowl system was outdated. Shouldve been a playoff for a long time now. So many games that couldve been over the years. It's new so ppl are gonna ***** and moan.

We could have all the top teams in random bowls not playing each other then the AP and UPI vote afterwards.

I don’t have a problem with the playoff.

I have an issue with the talking heads and the consumer at large using every game as a data point to open an argument about how or why the flawed team they root for would have been more competitive than the flawed team that got in and looked bad.

We’ve totally lost the plot. What I have a problem with is so many people who are… 1) Casual fans chiming in because they just want handpicked matchups they believe will be most interesting them. 2) NFL fans who only watch large programs loaded with future NFL guys that are advocating for more of said programs because the teams they didn’t watch all year didn’t look good in the only game they saw of them. 3) Talking heads who get on the microphone and advocate against teams who were deserving of earning a bid because they were non-competitive.

What Kirk Herbstreit said on Gameday this morning about Indiana was shameful. And to be clear, I didn’t expect Indiana to win or be competitive. But they were deserving of getting there. Much like SMU. These guys are advocating for legitimately just scrapping the regular season at large, and handpicking the matchups that the networks would like to see, regardless of what any team did.

Kirk Herbstreit had an issue with Indiana and SMU’s level of play this weekend. But he has no issues with how Tennessee or Clemson looked. It’s funny how that works. There were some bad blowouts in the four team playoff that, supposedly, now are okay because of the helmet the team on the receiving end was wearing. It’s not okay for SMU or Indiana to lose convincingly… But it was fine for Oklahoma to lose 63-28. Or for Ohio State to get boat raced 31-0. Or for ND to lose 30-3 to Clemson. Not sure people remember Bama losing the national championship to Dabo 44-16. Those routes were all okay for the media and casual fan, but the ones involving SMU and Indiana were not. I have a serious issue with that.

If these guys desire an NFL structure where you see the college equivalents of Bills/Chiefs, Steelers/Ravens, Eagles/Cowboys, etc., then they need to use their pulpits to advocate for massive structural change to college football as a whole. Use their platform to advocate for blowing up the conferences and reshaping everything. Smaller leagues. Regional formats. NFL scheduling models. Etc. Eliminate subjectivity in the playoffs by defining clear pathways (like the NFL with division champions, wild cards, etc.). No more selection committees. If Colin Cowherd believes Texas will be better than A&M, SMU, Texas Tech, and TCU, put them all into a small regional conference. Let these teams play games that matter all year and have clearly defined paths to the playoffs. I recognize what I’m suggesting is a pipe dream and won’t happen. But THAT is what everybody should be advocating for. Don’t scream about Indiana making it. Complain about the process that allows for that to rightfully happen.

[EdinboroFB]

The bowl system was outdated. Shouldve been a playoff for a long time now. So many games that couldve been over the years. It's new so ppl are gonna ***** and moan.

We could have all the top teams in random bowls not playing each other then the AP and UPI vote afterwards.

[EdinboroFB]

This is a perfect year for the playoff. It's so wide open this year. And with the giant conferences there are a lot of differences in schedules. Like Indiana got a gift of schedule in the Big 10 and partly because of that they went 11-1.

There are blowouts in every level of football that has playoffs. Should the PSAC not even get in the playoffs in D2 because they arent going to win anytime soon? I could've predicted atleast 3 of the final four in the FCS bracket this year.

And there are blowouts in national title games.....Super Bowls....one team lays an egg in a big game. It's always a possibility. These games at home sites have a National Championship energy in these home crowds. I'd much rather be watching this Ohio State- Tennessee game at Ohio St on Decemeber 21st in a tournament game even though it's a dud.....than see it in a meaningless Citrus Bowl on New Years day at 1pm.

I'd also just assume see 16 teams. If theyre going to take the Big 12 Champ. A G5 champ. Alabama, South Carolina, Ole Miss, and Miami wouldve made the bracket better. 8 on campus first round games this weekend. If they're doing 4 weeks of games anyway.

Indiana got in because the Big Ten has 18 teams. 7 teams had a .500 record or better in conference. Indiana played 2 of them. 5 teams had a 6-3 conference record or better. Indiana played 1 of them. 7 teams were 3-6 or worse in conference. Indiana play 6 of them.

Cignetti got a lottery ticket in a schedule. But they had to be in at 11-1

The ACC had Miami, Clemson, and SMU all at the top of the conference and none of them played each other in the regular season.
The Big 12 had Colorado, Arizona State, Iowa St, and BYU tie for first place. Only 1 game between those teams in the regular season.