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[IUPbigINDIANS]

Does anybody care what his NIL deal was (in terms of the agreement)?

Who was he representing? What business was he branding for? Was he helping to push products for somebody? Was he paid to be an influencer for somebody?

I think this story properly articulates that nothing that was ever intended to occur with NIL is occurring. It’s just money getting paid in a back alley, but legally now. Getting told you will get 100,000 dollars to commit and play at UNLV is not NIL.

I don't think the players care. It's not their problem. They (star transfers) want money. They aren't signing up to be a pitchman. Whether that wasn't the intention or not -- today -- is irrelevant to these players. The star QB or WR or whatever that is highly coveted in essentially free agency goes to the highest bidder. I'd assume most of these stars say that other crap is for the birds. You want me, pay me. It's that simple. Some of these kids are making serious cash. Granted, the vast majority are making pizza money.

But, when you start talking about 19-year-olds making six figures to play a college sport ... well, that's a pretty good college job. I think I made $6/hour.

I fully understand how this has evolved -- but, it happened. The players are just reaping the benefit. It's not their problem to figure out. For some, this is a boom town in the Wild West. They are cashing in on booster fools willing to pay these kids mega amounts of money. Get it while you can. But, unlike the UNLV kid, GET the money.

[IUP24]

That kid is a back up for them. Highly touted 5 star DT out of high school, went to Georgia for a year, then transferred to USC. A lot of hype and no production thus far. Him bouncing from program to program and not sticking with a DL coach will cost him big $ in the future.

Will cost him the opportunity to play football at level where you actually get paid to do it.

[Ram040506]

Defensive tackle for USC just announced his intentions to sit out the remainder of this year, redshirt, and transfer.

They have a problem on their hands.

That kid is a back up for them. Highly touted 5 star DT out of high school, went to Georgia for a year, then transferred to USC. A lot of hype and no production thus far. Him bouncing from program to program and not sticking with a DL coach will cost him big $ in the future.

[IUP24]

Does anybody care what his NIL deal was (in terms of the agreement)?

Who was he representing? What business was he branding for? Was he helping to push products for somebody? Was he paid to be an influencer for somebody?

I think this story properly articulates that nothing that was ever intended to occur with NIL is occurring. It’s just money getting paid in a back alley, but legally now. Getting told you will get 100,000 dollars to commit and play at UNLV is not NIL.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

UNLV’s running back is now transferring. Sounds like Brennan Marion’s “Go-Go” offense actually means that.

UNLV is refuting the story.

It will be interesting to see if the player tries to sue, although he likely won't win without any actual proof. He did not have an agent when he signed. He does now.

I'm sure if he has any actual documentation of this alleged $100k offer it will leak soon enough. I doubt he has anything in any form of writing (text, email, etc.).

If he doesn't, it's just a he said, she said.

[IUP24]

Defensive tackle for USC just announced his intentions to sit out the remainder of this year, redshirt, and transfer.

They have a problem on their hands.

[IUP24]

UNLV’s running back is now transferring. Sounds like Brennan Marion’s “Go-Go” offense actually means that.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

It seems that UNLV’s strong start was gaining him some traction as a young assistant on the rise. Crazy it could get derailed because he couldn’t scrape together 100k in Vegas of all places. I’m sure Nicky Santoro would’ve lent him the cash if he and his kid brother Dominick hadn’t gotten buried in a cornfield out in the sticks.

A lot of holes in the desert ... and a lot of problems are buried in those holes.

[IUP24]

It seems that UNLV’s strong start was gaining him some traction as a young assistant on the rise. Crazy it could get derailed because he couldn’t scrape together 100k in Vegas of all places. I’m sure Nicky Santoro would’ve lent him the cash if he and his kid brother Dominick hadn’t gotten buried in a cornfield out in the sticks.

He was already gaining traction, but he's also burned plenty of bridges. UNLV's offense was one of the best in the country last year and he was gaining notoriety. His "Go-Go offense" is unique and innovative. I'm not saying he's not a smart offensive mind. But he's a total jackass.

[Chuck Norris]

As more of this comes out, it sounds like Brennan Marion made fake promises to this kid and his family that he never was authorized to provide (monetarily, NIL, etc.). He is a serial user of people. The stories about how he left Pitt when Pat Narduzzi made him interview for the vacant OC job after Mark Whipple left were insane. Marion believed he should have just been handed the position. He's a jerk. He was one of the critical reasons why Jordan Addison left Pitt - or he at least was the one who got the ball rolling.

When it was clear he wasn't going to be Pitt's next offensive coordinator, Marion started shopping himself around college football programs - big programs; Texas, USC, etc. He essentially told them all that he was a packaged deal with Addison (he recruited Addison to Pitt) and that if he got a job on their offensive staff he would get Addison to follow him from Pitt. At the time, Addison had no intentions of transferring from Pitt. Marion ended up becoming the WRs coach for Texas, but was unable to land Addison. He was between USC and Texas, and USC offered him NIL opportunities which were supposed to be north of 2 million dollars. Addison would later say he never received close to 50% of what he was "guaranteed" when he transferred there.

My point in sharing this is:

1) This isn't Brennan Marion's first time going rogue and promising players things that he couldn't necessarily deliver. He tried doing this at Pitt too.
2) This QB is just one in a litany of players who agree to leave a situation that is comfortable and good for them (for many reasons) because they are promised things that don't exist. Everybody believes these are above the line deals. Most aren't, and most don't ever get what they are told they are going to get.

Regarding Marion and his connection to who I choose to root for.. Yeah, screw that guy.

It seems that UNLV’s strong start was gaining him some traction as a young assistant on the rise. Crazy it could get derailed because he couldn’t scrape together 100k in Vegas of all places. I’m sure Nicky Santoro would’ve lent him the cash if he and his kid brother Dominick hadn’t gotten buried in a cornfield out in the sticks.

[IUP24]

Don't these players have agents now to handle the (legal) documents/contracts? Who takes somebody for their word regarding that much money? Sounds like some stupid players involved, too, if you ask me.

If it isn't a legal contract ... it's just bullsh!t.


"Promised" doesn't mean a thing. Tough life lesson.

I think what you are missing is that so many of these aren't NIL deals rooted in the idea of what name, image, and likeness was actually supposed to be. NIL was supposed to be a player getting compensated to go and sign some autographs. Or a player's jersey could get sold in the bookstore and he would make the profits of that. If a car dealership wanted a player to be their face on a billboard, they would orchestrate a deal for that. In the vast majority of cases, that is NOT what is happening.

Using a local example, everybody talked a lot two years ago about needing people to open the checkbook so that they could find some NIL money to land Karst Hunter. What is his NIL deal? What services is he providing and getting paid for, relative to his NIL, around Indiana? The answer is he probably isn't. And he's just getting some bucks tossed his way on top of the scholarship. That is not what NIL is, regardless of how anyone wants to frame it.

My point is most of these deals aren't legally binding contracts - and they never were. Brennan Marion told this kid and his family that he would pay him 100,000 dollars to play QB at UNLV. There was no "NIL deal" that ever existed. It was just a rogue assistant coach that gave a price to player and thought he would figure out how to get the money down the road. I'm sure there was some paperwork involved, because to your point, these can't just be handshake deals. But the reality is that this is all just shadow money that is legally getting exchanged in a back alley under the guise of NIL. That's all this ever was...

So when I pound the table for why the revenue sharing model will be significantly better than this (regardless of any personal thoughts on direct compensation), that is why...

[IUPbigINDIANS]

As more of this comes out, it sounds like Brennan Marion made fake promises to this kid and his family that he never was authorized to provide (monetarily, NIL, etc.). He is a serial user of people. The stories about how he left Pitt when Pat Narduzzi made him interview for the vacant OC job after Mark Whipple left were insane. Marion believed he should have just been handed the position. He's a jerk. He was one of the critical reasons why Jordan Addison left Pitt - or he at least was the one who got the ball rolling.

When it was clear he wasn't going to be Pitt's next offensive coordinator, Marion started shopping himself around college football programs - big programs; Texas, USC, etc. He essentially told them all that he was a packaged deal with Addison (he recruited Addison to Pitt) and that if he got a job on their offensive staff he would get Addison to follow him from Pitt. At the time, Addison had no intentions of transferring from Pitt. Marion ended up becoming the WRs coach for Texas, but was unable to land Addison. He was between USC and Texas, and USC offered him NIL opportunities which were supposed to be north of 2 million dollars. Addison would later say he never received close to 50% of what he was "guaranteed" when he transferred there.

My point in sharing this is:

1) This isn't Brennan Marion's first time going rogue and promising players things that he couldn't necessarily deliver. He tried doing this at Pitt too.
2) This QB is just one in a litany of players who agree to leave a situation that is comfortable and good for them (for many reasons) because they are promised things that don't exist. Everybody believes these are above the line deals. Most aren't, and most don't ever get what they are told they are going to get.

Regarding Marion and his connection to who I choose to root for.. Yeah, screw that guy.

Don't these players have agents now to handle the (legal) documents/contracts? Who takes somebody for their word regarding that much money? Sounds like some stupid players involved, too, if you ask me.

If it isn't a legal contract ... it's just bullsh!t.


"Promised" doesn't mean a thing. Tough life lesson.

[IUP24]

Maybe, maybe not. Worth noting that he has a sub-50% completion rate and half his passing TDs came in a buy game against an FCS school. His rushing at this level looks more legit at least.

As more of this comes out, it sounds like Brennan Marion made fake promises to this kid and his family that he never was authorized to provide (monetarily, NIL, etc.). He is a serial user of people. The stories about how he left Pitt when Pat Narduzzi made him interview for the vacant OC job after Mark Whipple left were insane. Marion believed he should have just been handed the position. He's a jerk. He was one of the critical reasons why Jordan Addison left Pitt - or he at least was the one who got the ball rolling.

When it was clear he wasn't going to be Pitt's next offensive coordinator, Marion started shopping himself around college football programs - big programs; Texas, USC, etc. He essentially told them all that he was a packaged deal with Addison (he recruited Addison to Pitt) and that if he got a job on their offensive staff he would get Addison to follow him from Pitt. At the time, Addison had no intentions of transferring from Pitt. Marion ended up becoming the WRs coach for Texas, but was unable to land Addison. He was between USC and Texas, and USC offered him NIL opportunities which were supposed to be north of 2 million dollars. Addison would later say he never received close to 50% of what he was "guaranteed" when he transferred there.

My point in sharing this is:

1) This isn't Brennan Marion's first time going rogue and promising players things that he couldn't necessarily deliver. He tried doing this at Pitt too.
2) This QB is just one in a litany of players who agree to leave a situation that is comfortable and good for them (for many reasons) because they are promised things that don't exist. Everybody believes these are above the line deals. Most aren't, and most don't ever get what they are told they are going to get.

Regarding Marion and his connection to who I choose to root for.. Yeah, screw that guy.

[IUP24]

He's going to be in demand now. That $100k will be chump change compared to what is coming next.

I couldn't care less about the QB. Brennan Marion is getting exposed for being an absolute clown. That's where this story starts. He went rogue, did his own thing without truly consulting UNLV, and now it's blowing up in his face.

[TheBigCat2192]

He's going to be in demand now. That $100k will be chump change compared to what is coming next.

Maybe, maybe not. Worth noting that he has a sub-50% completion rate and half his passing TDs came in a buy game against an FCS school. His rushing at this level looks more legit at least.