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[IUP24]

Notable (and comical) portal news...

Pittsburgh native and former Pitt defensive end Dayon Hayes, who famously said after the spring game last year that he wanted to be "remembered as a hometown hero" and a "mentor to the young bulls" on the Pitt roster, just days before entering the portal to transfer to Colorado, has announced that he is transferring to away from Coach Prime.

Hilarious sequence. Left Pitt for a "better opportunity to go pro," and was barely a factor at Colorado, amassing just 16 tackles.

During the summer, Deion Sanders famously said he, "doesn't know who Pat Narduzzi is" and then said that Hayes and his Sam Okunloa (another Pitt DL transfer) are "NFL ready players" and that he "wanted to thank whoever the Pitt coaches were that recruited and coached them up for him." Okunloa had 24 tackles.

I guess Hayes wasn't the "Louis" that Prime said he was.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

Still no word on coaching changes at any FCS schools. I assumed that we'd see changes at Robert Morris and Youngstown State, but both appear to be staying put.

It is surprising. I thought both would have opened by now.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

There was a really good article in The Athletic this morning talking about what coaches have the most pressure going into the playoffs. Of course Day was listed as having the most pressure. The bad part for him is that nutso fanbase will look at anything less than a national championship as a failure. If he loses to Tennessee, they’ll obviously want him out and despite the behemoth buyout and disruption to the program at a bad time, I do think they’d let him go. If he at least gets to the 2nd round I think they keep him.

Of course the guy listed as having the least pressure was Curt. If Indiana is even competitive against Notre Dame he’ll be praised. If they win…wow.

Correct. Day better beat Tennessee if he wants to stay in Columbus.

[EyeoftheHawk]

That loss has Ryan Day one step away from being Jack Torrance.

There was a really good article in The Athletic this morning talking about what coaches have the most pressure going into the playoffs. Of course Day was listed as having the most pressure. The bad part for him is that nutso fanbase will look at anything less than a national championship as a failure. If he loses to Tennessee, they’ll obviously want him out and despite the behemoth buyout and disruption to the program at a bad time, I do think they’d let him go. If he at least gets to the 2nd round I think they keep him.

Of course the guy listed as having the least pressure was Curt. If Indiana is even competitive against Notre Dame he’ll be praised. If they win…wow.

[IUP24]

Well, for it to happen regularly, teams playing in the first round will have to win four games in a row against high-quality opposition. If they can do that, they probably deserve to be champs.

I am not trying to argue, but I think you're missing the point.

Do you think that West Virginia team in 2007 would have loved to have been in the position that Ohio State is in right now? You bet. Or that undefeated Oklahoma State team that lost to Iowa State in the last week of the season in 2012? For sure. Sustaining a gigantic upset means very little now.

Every game meant something back then. Specifically, those rivalry games had way more juice. Because winning or losing could singlehandedly ruin a season, a dream, a career, etc. Ohio State will reach the playoff 8 of every 10 years (or better). Losing to Michigan meant nothing other than a bunch of idiots calling talk shows saying they would rather go 1-11 and beat Michigan, than go 11-1 and lose to them, but win the national championship (newsflash to those folks... No you wouldn't).

[Fightingscot82]

Still no word on coaching changes at any FCS schools. I assumed that we'd see changes at Robert Morris and Youngstown State, but both appear to be staying put.

[Ship69]

Of course it’s meaningful. On game day, in the moment, it’s still Ohio State vs Michigan. My point is, as soon as the pepper sprayed dissipates, Ohio State is still in the playoff. It wasn’t in doubt before the game started or when it ended. Sure, their path is tougher, but they are still there.

Maybe this isn’t the best example since Ohio State fans are a different level of weirdo, but I think most fans would endure a loss to their rival if they still won the big prize at the end of the season. That was rarely a possibility before. Now it could happen regularly.

Well, for it to happen regularly, teams playing in the first round will have to win four games in a row against high-quality opposition. If they can do that, they probably deserve to be champs.

[Chuck Norris]

Well, the players obviously thought it was worth it, and Day was walking around in a daze after the game. Apparently it was not a meaningless game to the participants.

Of course it’s meaningful. On game day, in the moment, it’s still Ohio State vs Michigan. My point is, as soon as the pepper sprayed dissipates, Ohio State is still in the playoff. It wasn’t in doubt before the game started or when it ended. Sure, their path is tougher, but they are still there.

Maybe this isn’t the best example since Ohio State fans are a different level of weirdo, but I think most fans would endure a loss to their rival if they still won the big prize at the end of the season. That was rarely a possibility before. Now it could happen regularly.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

The league champions get a bye, so that definitely means something by any definition. Who would you rather be right now — Ohio State playing a strong SEC team in a first-round game, or Oregon sitting at home with an automatic berth in the quarterfinals? And I don't think a game that cost you a chance to play for your conference's championship lacked meaning.

That loss has Ryan Day one step away from being Jack Torrance.

[Ship69]

Yeah... I mean... Okay, it meant something. Sure.

I liked when teams walked onto the field with everything on the line in one of those games. If getting a home game in the College Football Playoff equates to "meaning something," then we are pretty far apart in our definitions and likely won't find common ground.

The league champions get a bye, so that definitely means something by any definition. Who would you rather be right now — Ohio State playing a strong SEC team in a first-round game, or Oregon sitting at home with an automatic berth in the quarterfinals? And I don't think a game that cost you a chance to play for your conference's championship lacked meaning.

[Ship69]

Yeah I’m not sure it was worth getting pepper sprayed just to be able to walk around Ann Arbor crowing “We knocked those fools in Columbus down to the 8 seed! Hail to the victors, baby!!”, while preparing for whatever meaningless bowl Michigan is headed to.

Well, the players obviously thought it was worth it, and Day was walking around in a daze after the game. Apparently it was not a meaningless game to the participants.

[Chuck Norris]

They'd take the pepper spray all day to win that game.

That’s true. But the point is, what did they actually cost Ohio State? Less than 10% of FBS teams make the playoff and Ohio State is still one of them. Losing to your biggest rival will still suck, but still having a shot at the big prize will probably get you over it much quicker.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

Yeah I’m not sure it was worth getting pepper sprayed just to be able to walk around Ann Arbor crowing “We knocked those fools in Columbus down to the 8 seed! Hail to the victors, baby!!”, while preparing for whatever meaningless bowl Michigan is headed to.

They'd take the pepper spray all day to win that game.

[Chuck Norris]

Yeah... I mean... Okay, it meant something. Sure.

I liked when teams walked onto the field with everything on the line in one of those games. If getting a home game in the College Football Playoff equates to "meaning something," then we are pretty far apart in our definitions and likely won't find common ground.

Yeah I’m not sure it was worth getting pepper sprayed just to be able to walk around Ann Arbor crowing “We knocked those fools in Columbus down to the 8 seed! Hail to the victors, baby!!”, while preparing for whatever meaningless bowl Michigan is headed to.

[IUP24]

I don’t disagree with your overall point that the playoff and its expansion has devalued regular season games but “Every game mattered” went out the window when Bama and LSU played a rematch for a title or perhaps when Oklahoma lost the B12CG but still got to play USC for a title. Hell, one of Spurrier’s Fun n’ Gun Gator teams were AP champs after beating FSU in a bowl rematch.

Sure, that's fair. There's about 5 examples of that stuff over a 40 year period. But I don't agree with any of those scenarios either. I'm consistent in my application of that. Texas got two shots at Georgia. Why do they deserve a third? Oregon already beat Ohio State, why do they have to do it again?

12 teams for me renders some of the most critical games a team plays on their schedule to be meaningless. I always enjoyed college football being unique in how much every week mattered. It was one of the major items that made it different. If I want to see the same teams play 2 or 3 times in a year, I'll turn on the NFL to see Steelers-Ravens, or Bills-Chiefs, or Eagles-Cowboys, etc.