PASSHE Institutions Merging

[Bart]

Penn State following SSHE, going with regional leadership. Staff buyouts also resulted in 10% reduction.


https://www.timesleader.com/news/165...o-1-chancellor


https://www.psu.edu/news/story/penn-...alth-campuses/

[IUPNation]

Many years ago I interviewed for a job at Pennsylvania College of Technology in Williamsport, trade school converted to a 4-year college overseen by Penn State but students do not earn a Penn State degree. It’s a great in-between and what it sounds like you're proposing. If it isn't it’s very close to open admission. And it’s thriving. Williamsport isn't for everyone (it wasn't for me) and it’s not in any of the corners of the state. The state does have Thaddeus Stevens College of Technology in Lancaster. It could use a few others. Clarion and Mansfield might be good candidates if those campuses need to be repurposed. And yes, Thaddeus Stevens has athletics, as does Penn College.

It seems like a no brainer.

[IUPNation]

As I recall, a lot of those UTI students lived in an apartment complex up the street from Chester County Hospital in West Chester.

Thry might but a lot of them live up 100 in a complex in Ludwig’s Corners.

[Fightingscot82]

We used to see commercials for trade schoools on TV back in the day. Not so much now. Pennco Tech always advertised. I wonder if they are even open?

The automotive school by me is literally called UTI. But they have a lot of students and it’s a big building. It sits next to the Turnpike right off the Downingtown exit.

Our schools should size the day and open trade schools in unused building. Offer crossover classes like accounting and such. You can fill dorms. It might lessen the resentment those in the trades have for those who went to college.

Many years ago I interviewed for a job at Pennsylvania College of Technology in Williamsport, trade school converted to a 4-year college overseen by Penn State but students do not earn a Penn State degree. Its a great in-between and what it sounds like you're proposing. If it isn't its very close to open admission. And its thriving. Williamsport isn't for everyone (it wasn't for me) and its not in any of the corners of the state. The state does have Thaddeus Stevens College of Technology in Lancaster. It could use a few others. Clarion and Mansfield might be good candidates if those campuses need to be repurposed. And yes, Thaddeus Stevens has athletics, as does Penn College.

[ctrabs74]

We used to see commercials for trade schoools on TV back in the day. Not so much now. Pennco Tech always advertised. I wonder if they are even open?

The automotive school by me is literally called UTI. But they have a lot of students and it’s a big building. It sits next to the Turnpike right off the Downingtown exit.

Our schools should size the day and open trade schools in unused building. Offer crossover classes like accounting and such. You can fill dorms. It might lessen the resentment those in the trades have for those who went to college.

As I recall, a lot of those UTI students lived in an apartment complex up the street from Chester County Hospital in West Chester.

[IUPNation]

I can see that. Mechanics need such specific training anymore and its an attractive field for some. Its not a job that you can just pick up with an opportunity to learn and passion for cars.

PTI/PTC was thriving for a while. They leased an entire apartment complex adjacent to the Mall at Robinson near the Pittsburgh airport. But I question the ROI on these trade schools using either a for-profit model or even just the college pricing model. The cost of operating any college is immense and not only are people less willing to take on the cost/debt to get that education, there are fewer in general to draw from. Pittsburgh has lost art schools, culinary schools, cosmetology schools, and trade schools in the last several years. Yet the union apprentice programs always have vacancies. The "kids are choosing the trades over college" narrative just isn't true.

We used to see commercials for trade schoools on TV back in the day. Not so much now. Pennco Tech always advertised. I wonder if they are even open?

The automotive school by me is literally called UTI. But they have a lot of students and it’s a big building. It sits next to the Turnpike right off the Downingtown exit.

Our schools should size the day and open trade schools in unused building. Offer crossover classes like accounting and such. You can fill dorms. It might lessen the resentment those in the trades have for those who went to college.

[Fightingscot82]

The mechanic training school in the office complex section of my development is full of cars. The students come from all over and they live in an apartment complex about 5 miles north of it…

I can see that. Mechanics need such specific training anymore and its an attractive field for some. Its not a job that you can just pick up with an opportunity to learn and passion for cars.

PTI/PTC was thriving for a while. They leased an entire apartment complex adjacent to the Mall at Robinson near the Pittsburgh airport. But I question the ROI on these trade schools using either a for-profit model or even just the college pricing model. The cost of operating any college is immense and not only are people less willing to take on the cost/debt to get that education, there are fewer in general to draw from. Pittsburgh has lost art schools, culinary schools, cosmetology schools, and trade schools in the last several years. Yet the union apprentice programs always have vacancies. The "kids are choosing the trades over college" narrative just isn't true.

[IUPNation]

Pittsburgh Technical College is closing.

https://triblive.com/news/education-...lege-to-close/

Not even a week after Triangle Tech announced their closure. When you read that colleges are down because kids are choosing trade school, you know that's a lie. There's just too few high school students.

The mechanic training school in the office complex section of my development is full of cars. The students come from all over and they live in an apartment complex about 5 miles north of it…

[Fightingscot82]

Pittsburgh Technical College is closing.

https://triblive.com/news/education-...lege-to-close/

Not even a week after Triangle Tech announced their closure. When you read that colleges are down because kids are choosing trade school, you know that's a lie. There's just too few high school students.

[IUPNation]

UArts developments:

https://www.phillyvoice.com/uarts-cl...-philadelphia/

They aren't going away quietly.

A merger with Temple might be the best thing but I doubt it happens.

[iupgroundhog]

UArts developments:

https://www.phillyvoice.com/uarts-cl...-philadelphia/

[Fightingscot82]

I read that Temple and Drexel are working with the students to transfer. However, not all of those majors, which are very specialized, are offered at the other schools. These students really are getting screwed. I don't understand it. Not teach out provisions. Just we are closing next week.

Edit: After 150 years. That's crazy.

I read that they were already acting as a teach out partner for another closed school. Yikes.

[iupgroundhog]

They were going full bore for next fall too for recruitment.

They folded when the accreditation went away.

It sucks for the students and it sucks for the city.

What will happen to that property...I wonder if the Kimmel Center will take it over.

I got this school property mixed up with High School for the Performing Arts that is down near Washington Ave. I thought that was this college but it's next to the Kimmel Center.

There will be high demand for the property. It's in the heart of the Avenue of the Arts.

Come to think about it, Drexel with all its money could absorb the Univ. of the Arts assets. Temple could, as well.

Meanwhile, I see that St Joe's has the old Univ. of the Sciences campus up for sale.

[IUPNation]

I read that Temple and Drexel are working with the students to transfer. However, not all of those majors, which are very specialized, are offered at the other schools. These students really are getting screwed. I don't understand it. Not teach out provisions. Just we are closing next week.

Edit: After 150 years. That's crazy.

They were going full bore for next fall too for recruitment.

They folded when the accreditation went away.

It sucks for the students and it sucks for the city.

What will happen to that property...I wonder if the Kimmel Center will take it over.

I got this school property mixed up with High School for the Performing Arts that is down near Washington Ave. I thought that was this college but it's next to the Kimmel Center.

[iupgroundhog]

Albright in Reading is not doing well either.

https://www.wfmz.com/_homepage_top_s...spr3ek2vhp44v2

Not only is Albright subject to the trends of small liberal arts schools, it is unfortunately located in a very high crime area. Right, not in the greatest of shape.