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  • boatcapt
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    Originally posted by Fightingscot82 View Post

    And they both provide good paying jobs in otherwise sleepy rural areas, so any potential closing is fought tooth and nail.
    I see what you did there! Keeping with the theme, if "enrollment" were down 50%, I would say close it and send the inmates to another instutution.

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  • boatcapt
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    Originally posted by IUPNation View Post

    You can break the law and not go to jail Or only go for a few months if you are white with money or connections and vote Republican. See Brock Taylor.

    Also cops who break the law rarely go to jail.
    100% of the people in jail have been found to have broken the law. You don't want to go to jail, don't break the law. Or cut a deal...See Ray Lewis.

    Cops don't go to prison?? I refer you to this: https://www.ranker.com/list/ex-cops-...n/ranker-crime But I'm sure you will dismiss it as irrelevent and then call me a white police racist. Facts are just sooo very inconvenient!

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  • IUPNation
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    Originally posted by boatcapt View Post

    Don't want to go to jail, don't break the law.
    You can break the law and not go to jail Or only go for a few months if you are white with money or connections and vote Republican. See Brock Taylor.

    Also cops who break the law rarely go to jail.
    Last edited by IUPNation; 09-18-2020, 07:09 AM.

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  • Fightingscot82
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    Originally posted by Bart View Post

    In the sense that both make money by creating a product. In college the student learns job skills and becomes enlightened. In prison the goal is to take a criminal and rehabilitate him into a law abiding citizen. Is this real life or just a fantasy? Either way we buy the promises they sell.
    And they both provide good paying jobs in otherwise sleepy rural areas, so any potential closing is fought tooth and nail.

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  • Bart
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    Originally posted by boatcapt View Post

    Colleges are like prisons??
    In the sense that both make money by creating a product. In college the student learns job skills and becomes enlightened. In prison the goal is to take a criminal and rehabilitate him into a law abiding citizen. Is this real life or just a fantasy? Either way we buy the promises they sell.

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  • boatcapt
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    Originally posted by Bart View Post

    Some say the same about the prison business where many people make very good money to do little, and inmates watch tv and lift weights all day.
    Colleges are like prisons??

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  • boatcapt
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    Originally posted by IUPNation View Post

    Prisons are the backbone of the rural economy.
    Prisons are the new plantations.
    Don't want to go to jail, don't break the law.

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  • IUPNation
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    Originally posted by Bart View Post

    Some say the same about the prison business where many people make very good money to do little, and inmates watch tv and lift weights all day.
    Prisons are the backbone of the rural economy.
    Prisons are the new plantations.

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  • Bart
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    Originally posted by boatcapt View Post

    Big dIfference between the college as a business entity and the on-campus life of a student. Does the "real world" infringe from time to time? Sure, but not very often.
    Some say the same about the prison business where many people make very good money to do little, and inmates watch tv and lift weights all day.

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  • boatcapt
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    Originally posted by Bart View Post

    That's the point-the real world is everywhere. There are no bubbles where people get out of this world unscathed and alive, so you'll see when you grow up and get out in the real world isn't the answer.
    Big dIfference between the college as a business entity and the on-campus life of a student. Does the "real world" infringe from time to time? Sure, but not very often.

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  • IUPbigINDIANS
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    Originally posted by Bart View Post

    If every SSHE school is going to lose jobs anyway, why have mergers to prop up some schools? Bloom just happens to be in the wrong geographical location and tool close to LHU and Mansfield. Bloom would survive without them.
    Right but the other two hit the iceberg. Somebody has to play life boat.

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  • Bart
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    Originally posted by boatcapt View Post

    Quite a few schools with uncontrolled debt, executive scandal, excessive salaries among their executive employees and the majority of public and private colleges/universities pay no taxes (corporate, income OR property).
    That's the point-the real world is everywhere. There are no bubbles where people get out of this world unscathed and alive, so you'll see when you grow up and get out in the real world isn't the answer.

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  • boatcapt
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    Originally posted by Bart View Post

    In the real world there is uncontrolled debt, corporate crime and scandals, 69 Fortune 500 companies that pay no taxes, Covid, death, etc. Colleges and universities are already part of this real world.
    Quite a few schools with uncontrolled debt, executive scandal, excessive salaries among their executive employees and the majority of public and private colleges/universities pay no taxes (corporate, income OR property).

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  • Bart
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    Originally posted by Fightingscot82 View Post

    Yes, but they're going to lose jobs anyway as part of the system mandate to increase the student to faculty ratio and eliminate underenrolled programs. At this point, I think we have to reluctantly embrace shedding jobs to help the longterm prospects of our schools.
    If every SSHE school is going to lose jobs anyway, why have mergers to prop up some schools? Bloom just happens to be in the wrong geographical location and tool close to LHU and Mansfield. Bloom would survive without them.

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  • Bart
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    Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post

    That sounds like how the real world works.
    In the real world there is uncontrolled debt, corporate crime and scandals, 69 Fortune 500 companies that pay no taxes, Covid, death, etc. Colleges and universities are already part of this real world.

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