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  • SVSUAlum
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    Originally posted by KleShreen View Post

    I think you're just overrating his playing time at GV as part of the criteria for being a coach. He spent one season as a GA/position coach at GV 20 years ago. Wooster has been in D2 football longer than Brady, and has been coaching at GV for three full seasons, as the run game coordinator, which might as well be the co-offensive coordinator. I just think you might be giving too much credence to playing career over coaching career in this instance. It wouldn't make sense to me to favor a coach who hasn't been associated with your program in 20 years over a coach who has been one of your best assistants for the last three seasons.

    Others have also alluded to there being a coaching style with Brady that would not fit well at GV. I can't really speak to that, but it has been shared by multiple people on here. It seems pretty clear that GV was aiming to make things comfortable for the current players, which have been extremely successful, and therefore sticking with a known coaching commodity that the players like makes sense.
    I don’t take account anything into his playing days but he did have a decent head coach to learn from back then. I do take into account he was a coordinator and was mentored by the best coach in the country for 10 years over a guy mentored by Winters and wasn’t even a coordinator. Hey I am not saying it should have been Brady but I think the GVSU guys mentioned FBS, FCS, and even NFL guys interested in the job and they landed on Wooster. Sounds like the players are running the program for such a quick hire.

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  • KleShreen
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    Originally posted by SVSUAlum View Post

    No just shocked comparing the 2 resumes that Brady is still a Cardinal as I thought GVSU was suppose to be the top DII school in the country and they hired a guy with no HC experience and has been at Wayne State for the majority of his coaching career. Not even a coordinator, just surprising for such a prestigious university like GVSU.
    I think you're just overrating his playing time at GV as part of the criteria for being a coach. He spent one season as a GA/position coach at GV 20 years ago. Wooster has been in D2 football longer than Brady, and has been coaching at GV for three full seasons, as the run game coordinator, which might as well be the co-offensive coordinator. I just think you might be giving too much credence to playing career over coaching career in this instance. It wouldn't make sense to me to favor a coach who hasn't been associated with your program in 20 years over a coach who has been one of your best assistants for the last three seasons.

    Others have also alluded to there being a coaching style with Brady that would not fit well at GV. I can't really speak to that, but it has been shared by multiple people on here. It seems pretty clear that GV was aiming to make things comfortable for the current players, which have been extremely successful, and therefore sticking with a known coaching commodity that the players like makes sense.

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  • Runnin' Cat
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    Originally posted by Brandon View Post

    Rumor on the street is that he had been offered the job.
    Maybe the NFL guys being considered for the GV job will end up with Wayne State.

    Jeff Fisher is still out there...

    Jeff Fisher on Twitter: "Guess where? https://t.co/vMeMdRz1lJ" / Twitter

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  • SVSUAlum
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    Originally posted by KleShreen View Post

    Why are you upset that another school is not coming and taking your coach away? You sound like....you WANT another team to take Brady away from SV?
    No just shocked comparing the 2 resumes that Brady is still a Cardinal as I thought GVSU was suppose to be the top DII school in the country and they hired a guy with no HC experience and has been at Wayne State for the majority of his coaching career. Not even a coordinator, just surprising for such a prestigious university like GVSU.

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  • SVSUAlum
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    Originally posted by Redwing View Post

    Huh? Whatever. We'll enjoy handing saggy another W come this fall. 40-11 all time. 4-0 in the play offs. Currently on a 10 game winning streak. Scoreboard.
    When you say huh? You know the Green Bay coach is a SVSU guy right? Just letting you know as you seemed lost on that. Anyways you might be right about next year but then again Wooster hasn’t coached a game yet. Time will tell.

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  • KleShreen
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    Originally posted by SVSUAlum View Post

    Former SVSU players are too busy being a head coach in the NFL. Rob Reeves (old SVSU guy), Brady, and Postma (old SVSU guy) all interviewed for the last opening a few years ago. Thanks for your concern for the SVSU program.
    Why are you upset that another school is not coming and taking your coach away? You sound like....you WANT another team to take Brady away from SV?

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  • SVSUAlum
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    Originally posted by Irishlaker View Post

    Among most of our base, there isn't a lot of bad-mouthing of Brady. Let's start there. A couple of folks, maybe...doesn't mean all of us. We know Brady is a good coach and is doing well at SV. The rivalry is more fun when SV is good. Yes, he played for us...no argument. As far as "being more GV than Wooster", I'm not sure I agree...and frankly don't see what difference it would make anyway. Yeah, he played here...but never coached a down here, and nearly all of his experience in the coaching regard came from time at our primary rivals. He's less and less GV by the day. Doesn't mean we want anything bad for him.

    Next, there are some things style-wise to how he runs things at SV that some of us hear about that, if true, probably wouldn't fly at GV. Not a commentary...is what it is. That's true of a lot of things, and works both ways. Why is it us not wishing him well to state facts? Additionally, who is to say he applied or was even interested in our gig? Whether any of us would "want" him or not is moot.

    Last, a couple of posts ago you mentioned that he out-coached Ferris the last two years. I suppose, but those were both games that SV lost despite being a combined +5 in turnover margin. Not sure how losses when your opponent gives you the ball a whole bunch equates to out-coaching someone, but OK.
    I know GVSU and Ferris have been equal in talent the last few years but sadly we have not had that talent since the probation we were on years ago. Slowly Brady has brought back in enough talent to be competitive but still Ferris and GVSU has a huge talent gap on the country. Yes turnover margin is part of the game of football and just goes to the point SVSU was more disciplined in those games to be +5 which equates to coaching. You are right though I am pretty sure Brady didn’t apply.

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  • Redwing
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    Originally posted by SVSUAlum View Post

    Former SVSU players are too busy being a head coach in the NFL. Rob Reeves (old SVSU guy), Brady, and Postma (old SVSU guy) all interviewed for the last opening a few years ago. Thanks for your concern for the SVSU program.
    Huh? Whatever. We'll enjoy handing saggy another W come this fall. 40-11 all time. 4-0 in the play offs. Currently on a 10 game winning streak. Scoreboard.

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  • SVSUAlum
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    Originally posted by Redwing View Post

    Coaching is different than playing. I would think that's obvious. And just because someone was a GV player, even a star, it won't make me rubber stamp them as a head coach. As for Brady.. I still say look at last season. There's more, but I'm not calling it out here. I have my opinion, you have yours. So why doesn't Saggy hire any of their former players for a HC?
    Former SVSU players are too busy being a head coach in the NFL. Rob Reeves (old SVSU guy), Brady, and Postma (old SVSU guy) all interviewed for the last opening a few years ago. Thanks for your concern for the SVSU program.

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  • Irishlaker
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    Originally posted by SVSUAlum View Post

    That’s great. When I was a player and yes it was LONG ago everyone on the team helped contribute to any success we had as a team. Hell if he played in the playoffs and had stats he help contribute. Not bad for a 5’9” guy that weighed 165 pounds. I do like his coaching resume too. Coaching mentor has been Tony Annese over the last 10+ years and his 1st head coaching job was taking over an SVSU program under NCAA violations and had barely 40 players on the roster. Somehow went 5-6 in his 1st year then 7-4 and last year was 8-3 with wins over Bowie and Indianapolis. I just find it comical that GVSU speaks so badly over one of their former players and grads. Is it to much to wish the best for a former Laker? Postma is a Cardinal guy deep down but we wish him the best.
    Among most of our base, there isn't a lot of bad-mouthing of Brady. Let's start there. A couple of folks, maybe...doesn't mean all of us. We know Brady is a good coach and is doing well at SV. The rivalry is more fun when SV is good. Yes, he played for us...no argument. As far as "being more GV than Wooster", I'm not sure I agree...and frankly don't see what difference it would make anyway. Yeah, he played here...but never coached a down here, and nearly all of his experience in the coaching regard came from time at our primary rivals. He's less and less GV by the day. Doesn't mean we want anything bad for him.

    Next, there are some things style-wise to how he runs things at SV that some of us hear about that, if true, probably wouldn't fly at GV. Not a commentary...is what it is. That's true of a lot of things, and works both ways. Why is it us not wishing him well to state facts? Additionally, who is to say he applied or was even interested in our gig? Whether any of us would "want" him or not is moot.

    Last, a couple of posts ago you mentioned that he out-coached Ferris the last two years. I suppose, but those were both games that SV lost despite being a combined +5 in turnover margin. Not sure how losses when your opponent gives you the ball a whole bunch equates to out-coaching someone, but OK.

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  • Redwing
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    Originally posted by SVSUAlum View Post

    That’s great. When I was a player and yes it was LONG ago everyone on the team helped contribute to any success we had as a team. Hell if he played in the playoffs and had stats he help contribute. Not bad for a 5’9” guy that weighed 165 pounds. I do like his coaching resume too. Coaching mentor has been Tony Annese over the last 10+ years and his 1st head coaching job was taking over an SVSU program under NCAA violations and had barely 40 players on the roster. Somehow went 5-6 in his 1st year then 7-4 and last year was 8-3 with wins over Bowie and Indianapolis. I just find it comical that GVSU speaks so badly over one of their former players and grads. Is it to much to wish the best for a former Laker? Postma is a Cardinal guy deep down but we wish him the best.
    Coaching is different than playing. I would think that's obvious. And just because someone was a GV player, even a star, it won't make me rubber stamp them as a head coach. As for Brady.. I still say look at last season. There's more, but I'm not calling it out here. I have my opinion, you have yours. So why doesn't Saggy hire any of their former players for a HC?

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  • SVSUAlum
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    Originally posted by Brandon View Post

    I don't necessarily get in the middle of everyone's fight, but Brady had 23 yards passing and -7 yards rushing in the year that GV won the championship. When he had significant time in the 2001 playoffs, the Lakers were beaten by UND In the championship.
    That’s great. When I was a player and yes it was LONG ago everyone on the team helped contribute to any success we had as a team. Hell if he played in the playoffs and had stats he help contribute. Not bad for a 5’9” guy that weighed 165 pounds. I do like his coaching resume too. Coaching mentor has been Tony Annese over the last 10+ years and his 1st head coaching job was taking over an SVSU program under NCAA violations and had barely 40 players on the roster. Somehow went 5-6 in his 1st year then 7-4 and last year was 8-3 with wins over Bowie and Indianapolis. I just find it comical that GVSU speaks so badly over one of their former players and grads. Is it to much to wish the best for a former Laker? Postma is a Cardinal guy deep down but we wish him the best.

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  • Brandon
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    Originally posted by SVSUAlum View Post

    You speak so badly of Brady and he helped you guys win a natty.
    I don't necessarily get in the middle of everyone's fight, but Brady had 23 yards passing and -7 yards rushing in the year that GV won the championship. When he had significant time in the 2001 playoffs, the Lakers were beaten by UND In the championship.

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  • SVSUAlum
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    Originally posted by Redwing View Post

    Nice response. The thing with Wooster is that even though he was on the staff and technically an internal hire, he hasn't been at GV all that long. In fact if he went to Wayne, I'd say he was more of a Wayne internal hire than what he is at GV. In light of the circumstances, he offers a great unique blend of history as GV's next HC. A vulnerability is that, true, he hasn't been a HC, so that is a question that remains to be answered. There may have been one other possible top candidate (external), but one can readily see the route to support this hire.


    Oh, and I'm pretty sure Brady wasn't even on the list. Just look at Saggy this season as a bit of an indication why. And that's not even looking under Saggy's hood.
    You do know Brady is more GVSU then Wooster right? So since Brady is a Laker grad should saggy be worried. We are not worried as Brady took us over coming off of NCAA probation and had to report more to the NCAA than any GLIAC team over the last 3 years. He has also been the only coach to out coach Annese over the last 2 years. You speak so badly of Brady and he helped you guys win a natty. What a great fan base at GVSU.

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  • Redwing
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    Originally posted by Predatory Primates View Post
    85-90 was Franchione at .898, 91-2009 was Broyles at .806, 2010-2019 was Beck at .701 that's where the inbreeding caught up with Pitt. Honestly, the last few years of the Broyles tenure are when the slip started, but Beck was 100% Pitt. Player, grad assistant, position coach, DC, OC, assistant hc, and hc. I think the lack of exposure to anything else really magnified the shortcomings. He was great at every job except head coach.
    Nice response. The thing with Wooster is that even though he was on the staff and technically an internal hire, he hasn't been at GV all that long. In fact if he went to Wayne, I'd say he was more of a Wayne internal hire than what he is at GV. In light of the circumstances, he offers a great unique blend of history as GV's next HC. A vulnerability is that, true, he hasn't been a HC, so that is a question that remains to be answered. There may have been one other possible top candidate (external), but one can readily see the route to support this hire.


    Oh, and I'm pretty sure Brady wasn't even on the list. Just look at Saggy this season as a bit of an indication why. And that's not even looking under Saggy's hood.

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