Portal Movement in the NSIC

[Stanger86]

They kind of have to recruit those areas. There are about 20 football players in ND and they’re all going to NDSU and UND. Due to the state of the football programs at Minot and Mary, they are forced to take the recruits they can get from those far away states. It’s a perpetual problem for them. J******** will almost certainly run into the same issue.

This is the kind of mentality that leads to someone like Adam Thielen nearly falling through the cracks. There are always hidden gems to be found.

But that seems to be the Mankato mindset. Same with hoops, as Margenthaler has said there are no NSIC caliber bigs to be found in the upper midwest in high school recruiting.

[Purple Mav Man]

Schools have to know who they are. If you're in north central ND and your recruiting base is places like Texas, California and Washington, player retainment is going to be difficult for those players unless you can catch lightning in a bottle and have team success on the field.

They kind of have to recruit those areas. There are about 20 football players in ND and they’re all going to NDSU and UND. Due to the state of the football programs at Minot and Mary, they are forced to take the recruits they can get from those far away states. It’s a perpetual problem for them. J******** will almost certainly run into the same issue.

[Stanger86]

Sounds like a ringing endorsement for the NSIC’s newest member.

*I know you’re discussing Minot, but same is true for J********

Schools have to know who they are. If you're in north central ND and your recruiting base is places like Texas, California and Washington, player retainment is going to be difficult for those players unless you can catch lightning in a bottle and have team success on the field.

[Matt Witwicki]

Just a few...
QB Dondrae Fair (the Portland State transfer)
RB Myles West (leading rusher)
WR Daniel Stokes (No. 1 WR)
WR James Mintmier (No. 3 WR)

Thanks.

Myles West is young (frosh) and had 800 yards and 5 scores..while not being the start until #0 Evan Lovett got hurt at the end of Sept. Assuming Lovett is good-to-go for 2024, I can see why West might not have wanted to potentially more into a time-share of the #2 spot again..and he's getting offers from near-playoff squads like Wayne..and I'm guessing others..and being from TX..I'd guess schools down there too.

[Purple Mav Man]

Their record could be a big reason.

The fact that they are in a small town in the middle of nowhere North Dakota might be another.

Sounds like a ringing endorsement for the NSIC’s newest member.

*I know you’re discussing Minot, but same is true for J********

[SW_Mustang]

Why would a running back transfer from a team that runs the ball 98% of the time and he was the starter? Maybe personal reasons? Seemed like a nice get for Minot and he's gone. Why would a receiver sign with a team that runs the ball?

Their record could be a big reason.

The fact that they are in a small town in the middle of nowhere North Dakota might be another.

[Stanger86]

I assume we are speaking about Minot here..if so, who have they lost in terms of RB and QB? Just curious as none of us really have the time/inclination to play twitter detective with each squad. Thanks.

Just a few...
QB Dondrae Fair (the Portland State transfer)
RB Myles West (leading rusher)
WR Daniel Stokes (No. 1 WR)
WR James Mintmier (No. 3 WR)

[Matt Witwicki]

12 times is generous. They are going to throw the ball 5 to 8 tines a game. They lost their best running back back in the portal, a number of receivers and QBs. They will be starting over from square 1 on offense.

I assume we are speaking about Minot here..if so, who have they lost in terms of RB and QB? Just curious as none of us really have the time/inclination to play twitter detective with each squad. Thanks.

[debergfan]

Good get..yes. But losing takes its toll players who are used to winning playing at a program that loses a lot can be taxing. Also I think many kids are pretty savvy. They know you can be a run first team, but you have to be able to throw effectively to loosen up the box (unless you are a service academy ) or you will start seeing 8 and 9 man boxes and no Running back wants to see that. (That math problem doesn't work ) .They also know that Qbs will get hit alot and you won't be able to keep them healthy so you'll be playing with a back up for part of the season or even the back up's, back up. 5

im guessing receivers believed that they would throw the ball more than 8 tines a game. I don't see how they will be successful going forward. I also don't see how anyone would be entertained watching that style of football.

Disagree. Harding won the title running Barry Switzer's offense and (probably his playbook). Harding's long runs were very exciting. I think Harding only threw the ball a dozen times this year. 6k yards on offense is very exciting if you're winning.

[Deepfreeze11]

Why would a running back transfer from a team that runs the ball 98% of the time and he was the starter? Maybe personal reasons? Seemed like a nice get for Minot and he's gone. Why would a receiver sign with a team that runs the ball?

Good get..yes. But losing takes its toll players who are used to winning playing at a program that loses a lot can be taxing. Also I think many kids are pretty savvy. They know you can be a run first team, but you have to be able to throw effectively to loosen up the box (unless you are a service academy ) or you will start seeing 8 and 9 man boxes and no Running back wants to see that. (That math problem doesn't work ) .They also know that Qbs will get hit alot and you won't be able to keep them healthy so you'll be playing with a back up for part of the season or even the back up's, back up. 5

im guessing receivers believed that they would throw the ball more than 8 tines a game. I don't see how they will be successful going forward. I also don't see how anyone would be entertained watching that style of football.

[debergfan]

12 times is generous. They are going to throw the ball 5 to 8 tines a game. They lost their best running back back in the portal, a number of receivers and QBs. They will be starting over from square 1 on offense.

Why would a running back transfer from a team that runs the ball 98% of the time and he was the starter? Maybe personal reasons? Seemed like a nice get for Minot and he's gone. Why would a receiver sign with a team that runs the ball?

[Stanger86]

How can 2024 HS grads sign early in D2?

I know in D1, kids enroll early from time to time. I'm guessing there are similar allowances in place, but I'm no expert.

[Deepfreeze11]

He was a hold over from previous staff at Minot. He doesn’t fit with what the new coaching staff wants to do offensively—- which is run the ball and throw the ball 12 times a game. He is more of a pocket guy/pro style

12 times is generous. They are going to throw the ball 5 to 8 tines a game. They lost their best running back back in the portal, a number of receivers and QBs. They will be starting over from square 1 on offense.

[Umdfan35]

Minot announced a bunch of midyear transfers, including one from within the NSIC

https://msubeavers.com/news/2023/12/...ng-period.aspx

How can 2024 HS grads sign early in D2?

[MrMustang]

It seems pretty easy to understand. Hansen may like to throw the ball as a QB, Minot is not going to throw the ball. They are an option team.

makes sense thanks