Portal Movement in the NSIC

[SW_Mustang]

Minot may be in an isolated area, but they are a regional shopping center for north central ND. The oil patch brings much consumer money into the city. As far as facilities go their football, basketball and baseball facilities are top 3 in the league, as a trio Augustana is better, but not by much.

I'm thinking in terms of what a 17-18 y/o recruit would value - and being a regional shopping center for NC ND is not high on the list. Someone once told me Marshall is a good place for college football players because it has a good preschool.

Mankato would have roughly everything Minot would (sans facilities) but is much further south and is a lot more centrally located. Probably a better down town and larger student population (2-3x) which is of much greater value (IMO)

You are right about facilities though, especially their basketball arena. Often overlooked in best arena discussions but it ranks near the top for me. Football in the top half of the NSIC easily.

[vikingfaithful]

True freshman QB Lincoln Kienholz of Pierre SD is playing for the Ohio State Luckeyes in the Sugar bowl and is performing like his age. The refs will try to hand the game to OSU.

[vikingfaithful]

Minot may be in an isolated area, but they are a regional shopping center for north central ND. The oil patch brings much consumer money into the city. As far as facilities go their football, basketball and baseball facilities are top 3 in the league, as a trio Augustana is better, but not by much.

[SW_Mustang]

Here I am going to very strongly disagree. Maybe you took airplanes to mean travel as a team. Not at all—it’s having an airport to get recruits from California, Arizona, Florida, Texas, Colorado and Las Vegas easily and quickly—-so that the recruit feels that it is easy to get from home to that remote location. Much easier for recruits and families, who want to attend games, to fly into Minot and be 3 minutes from the stadium. Instead of picking the recruit up at the airport and driving down some remote 2 lane highway for 90 minutes—-where the highlight maybe the 2 Casey’s in Pipestone—-while the recruit wonders what backwoods location are they headed for.. Airplanes mean a great deal in the recruiting process, in getting recruits and their families comfortable with being long distances from home. And help in the signing of some of these out of area kids.

That is what I meant - and you are right, airports to bus in recruits is a huge advantage vs driving them 90+ miles.

I still think their geographic location is going to prevent them from being competitive long term. I've only been there once, but it was ultra secluded and I'm sure it gets insanely cold. Not what most recruits are looking for.

[FB Player Coach & Fan]

Minot might be a town with some amenities, but the location is not great. It's far more seculded than Marshall, Mankato, and Wayne (IMO). Airplanes don't really mean much in the NSIC.

Here I am going to very strongly disagree. Maybe you took airplanes to mean travel as a team. Not at all—it’s having an airport to get recruits from California, Arizona, Florida, Texas, Colorado and Las Vegas easily and quickly—-so that the recruit feels that it is easy to get from home to that remote location. Much easier for recruits and families, who want to attend games, to fly into Minot and be 3 minutes from the stadium. Instead of picking the recruit up at the airport and driving down some remote 2 lane highway for 90 minutes—-where the highlight maybe the 2 Casey’s in Pipestone—-while the recruit wonders what backwoods location are they headed for.. Airplanes mean a great deal in the recruiting process, in getting recruits and their families comfortable with being long distances from home. And help in the signing of some of these out of area kids.

[SW_Mustang]

Wow; from a D2 program in the NSIC to a middle of the pack or lower end NAIA. That one will have you scratching your head as you try to figure out the transfer portal.
only upgrade is that you are in Billings, larger city—— but facilities, level of competition are downgrades, at least from this point of view.

He had offers from better programs - would have been a decent NSIC WR had he stayed.

A headscratcher for sure - but I genuinely hope he finds what he's looking for out there.

[FB Player Coach & Fan]

Former SMSU WR Eric Lira signed with Rocky Mountain College in the NAIA.

Wow; from a D2 program in the NSIC to a middle of the pack or lower end NAIA. That one will have you scratching your head as you try to figure out the transfer portal.
only upgrade is that you are in Billings, larger city—— but facilities, level of competition are downgrades, at least from this point of view.

[NSU4LIFE]

I didn't use "feelings" to draw up my opinions, that's the difference between us - clearly.

Gainful employment and quality of life is not a "want" by any means.

Feelings? You can't find a decent job in this region to provide a decent life than you aren't trying...also, why are you still here exactly?

Plenty of us have a "quality of life" some just don't know what they want or would rather complain than go after whatever it is they are searching, I guess

[SW_Mustang]

[QUOTE=FB Player Coach & Fan;n807800]

I do think the driving distance is a valid point. However, I do think Jamestown has it a little better in that it's only 90 minutes into ND, as opposed to Bismarck being three hours from Fargo and Minot is 4 hours from Fargo. Just for example, an interstate drive under 5 hours from the Twin Cities is a lot more manageable than 7.5 hours. But I don't know if the Twin Cities will be the primary recruiting zone....not right away at least.

Lacking first hand information/experience for some that think Minot has recruiting issues—they have winning issues not recruiting issues. Wayne—- no major airport (90 minutes); Marshall—no airport (90 minute drive). I’ve been to Mankato but don’t know the airport details. And I could go on.
Minot has a new airport (8 gates)—with direct flights to Phoenix, Las Vegas, plus United and Delta access to Denver & Minneapolis. Add a city of 40k-and facilities that are probably top 5 or 6 (bubble allows year round facility training). Minot has many things other NSIC communities do not have to offer. My point is that recruiting to Minot- is not as difficult as some on here suggest—as other NSIC schools face——retention for just about everyone is getting to be a bit of a challenge and of course the lack of a winning program. Add, most likely fully funded. Recruiting to Minot is not as difficult as some on here make it out to be. Not sure when the winning program will arrive.

Minot might be a town with some amenities, but the location is not great. It's far more seculded than Marshall, Mankato, and Wayne (IMO). Airplanes don't really mean much in the NSIC.

Minot actually has decent facilities - but convincing recruits to spend time in the frozen tundra is going to hold them back. That's just their reality.

[SW_Mustang]

I applied. I told them I have experience in corn sites- I misread that it was actually about porn sites. So much for getting that job.

Well, corn is vegan - if you can run a youtube channel with umm... "guests," you may still be qualified

[SW_Mustang]

Definitely not a reality. It's an opinion. The same as me saying the upper midwest is absolutely God's country. As well as my opinion that people who worry more about wants than needs are never going to be satisfied or happy.

I didn't use "feelings" to draw up my opinions, that's the difference between us - clearly.

Gainful employment and quality of life is not a "want" by any means.

[SW_Mustang]

Former SMSU WR Eric Lira signed with Rocky Mountain College in the NAIA.

[FB Player Coach & Fan]

[QUOTE=Stanger86;n807770]

I do think the driving distance is a valid point. However, I do think Jamestown has it a little better in that it's only 90 minutes into ND, as opposed to Bismarck being three hours from Fargo and Minot is 4 hours from Fargo. Just for example, an interstate drive under 5 hours from the Twin Cities is a lot more manageable than 7.5 hours. But I don't know if the Twin Cities will be the primary recruiting zone....not right away at least.

Lacking first hand information/experience for some that think Minot has recruiting issues—they have winning issues not recruiting issues. Wayne—- no major airport (90 minutes); Marshall—no airport (90 minute drive). I’ve been to Mankato but don’t know the airport details. And I could go on.
Minot has a new airport (8 gates)—with direct flights to Phoenix, Las Vegas, plus United and Delta access to Denver & Minneapolis. Add a city of 40k-and facilities that are probably top 5 or 6 (bubble allows year round facility training). Minot has many things other NSIC communities do not have to offer. My point is that recruiting to Minot- is not as difficult as some on here suggest—as other NSIC schools face——retention for just about everyone is getting to be a bit of a challenge and of course the lack of a winning program. Add, most likely fully funded. Recruiting to Minot is not as difficult as some on here make it out to be. Not sure when the winning program will arrive.

[laker]

UW-LaCrosse is in the transfer portal for a new chancellor.

Anyone in the NSIC up for the job? Lol

I applied. I told them I have experience in corn sites- I misread that it was actually about porn sites. So much for getting that job.

[NSU4LIFE]

It's just the reality. I don't make the rules.

To most people, Minneapolis is the middle of nowhere.

Definitely not a reality. It's an opinion. The same as me saying the upper midwest is absolutely God's country. As well as my opinion that people who worry more about wants than needs are never going to be satisfied or happy.