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  • Originally posted by IUP24 View Post

    Agree with all of that. I don't begrudge anyone for doing it. I just don't necessarily know that there is financial benefit from it for a lot of them, compared to just using their degree and starting their career. That's just me though. If you do it for a year or two, I think that's probably low risk in the long run. If you hang on, that could be a bad decision.

    But again, to each their own.
    Each case is different. If the player is from a family with money to help support him ... that's a whole different story than the player making $26k a year in Mongolia on his own.

    I think it's largely a status thing for most. I'd assume most D2 guys over there know the Chicago Bulls aren't calling.

    As mentioned, if you can get up to the upper levels the money is pretty decent.

    That said, the vast majority we see go over to play are only there a year or two (if that).

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    • Have I missed something - what's happened to Garvin Clarke. Is he still with the programme?

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      • Originally posted by Cobra Hawks View Post
        Have I missed something - what's happened to Garvin Clarke. Is he still with the programme?
        He was as of June. Jesus what now?

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        • Originally posted by Cobra Hawks View Post
          Have I missed something - what's happened to Garvin Clarke. Is he still with the programme?
          If you got info, spit it out!

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          • Originally posted by Cobra Hawks View Post
            Have I missed something - what's happened to Garvin Clarke. Is he still with the programme?
            Don’t leave us hanging. Those of us with no inside sources want to know what’s up.

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            • Originally posted by Chuck Norris View Post

              Don’t leave us hanging. Those of us with no inside sources want to know what’s up.
              Can't speak for the actual poster above but I can say for sure Garvin was here as of July. So, if something happened, it had to have just happened.

              I'm not the 'most' connected person but I'm pretty connected. I haven't heard a single thing.

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              • Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post

                Can't speak for the actual poster above but I can say for sure Garvin was here as of July. So, if something happened, it had to have just happened.

                I'm not the 'most' connected person but I'm pretty connected. I haven't heard a single thing.
                Other than some kind of non-basketball related incident, it's hard to believe they could lose him at this point.

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                • Originally posted by Ship69 View Post

                  Other than some kind of non-basketball related incident, it's hard to believe they could lose him at this point.
                  I guess we'll know for sure when Joe allows them to post the roster at about 4:30 p.m. opening night.

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                  • Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post

                    Each case is different. If the player is from a family with money to help support him ... that's a whole different story than the player making $26k a year in Mongolia on his own.

                    I think it's largely a status thing for most. I'd assume most D2 guys over there know the Chicago Bulls aren't calling.

                    As mentioned, if you can get up to the upper levels the money is pretty decent.

                    That said, the vast majority we see go over to play are only there a year or two (if that).
                    Speaking of playing in Europe:

                    SHIPPENSBURG, Pa. – Shippensburg University men’s basketball alumni Jake Biss ’21 and Carlos Carter ’23 have signed professional contracts with Eisbaren Bremerhaven, a team that plays in the second-tier circuit (Pro A) of professional basketball in Germany.

                    The two Raiders are already in Germany preparing for the team’s first preseason workouts, which begin tomorrow (Saturday, August 10).

                    Biss returns to the Pro A league after playing 18 games last season for Paderborn after recovering from an injury that kept him out at the start. He is reunited with his head coach from Paderborn, Steven Esterkamp, who took the head job at Bremerhaven in May.

                    The 2024-25 campaign will be his third season in professional basketball, as Biss also spent time in 2022 with the Den Helder Suns in The Netherlands.

                    “I’m excited to head back to Germany to continue my basketball career,” Biss said. “When I heard that Carlos was added to the roster I couldn’t wait to head over and get started. Having a familiar face and the great friend that Carlos is around will make things that much more enjoyable this season. We’re both looking forward to getting back on the court together and we’ll be sure to make Ship proud.”

                    Carter also returns to the Pro A league after playing 21 games last season for Muenster while also dealing with an injury. The 2024-25 campaign will be his second in professional basketball.

                    “I’m super excited and thankful for another opportunity to play the game I love!” Carter said. “I’m especially looking forward to teaming back up with Jake! It’s going to be a fun and great year.”

                    It is the third reported Raider men’s basketball alumni signing of the summer thus far, as Dustin Sleva ’18 joined Turkish club Besiktas Emlakjet Istanbul in late June.

                    Biss, the 2019-20 Pennsylvania State Athletic Conference (PSAC) Eastern Division Athlete of the Year and a 2020 National Association of Basketball Coaches (NABC) All-District honoree, completed his SU career ranked third in school history in career three-pointers (212), sixth in career assists (391), eighth in career free-throw percentage (.802), and ninth in career points (1,484). He is a three-time All-PSAC Eastern Division First Team selection.

                    Carter, the 2022-23 PSAC Eastern Division Athlete of the Year and a 2023 NABC All-District honoree, finished his collegiate career with 1,339 points, which ranks 15th in program history.

                    About Bremerhaven and “Pro A”

                    Bremerhaven is a port city in northern Germany approximately 40 miles northwest of Bremen. Hamburg is two hours to the east. Eisbaren translates to “ice bears,” or as we know them, polar bears – the team’s mascot.

                    The “Pro A” league is similar to most European leagues in that it has promotion and relegation. The Top 2 teams at the end of the league state are promoted to the top-flight German league – Basketball Bundesliga (BBL), while the two lowest teams in the standings are relegated to “Pro B.”

                    - SU -

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                    • Turns out the rumor was true. The new court has been installed inside the KCAC.

                      It's pretty nice. I'd call it 'modern' ... definitely a different look.

                      No idea what they are doing with the old one.

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                      • Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post
                        Turns out the rumor was true. The new court has been installed inside the KCAC.

                        It's pretty nice. I'd call it 'modern' ... definitely a different look.

                        No idea what they are doing with the old one.
                        Is it a traditional wood plank court or a smooth surface?

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                        • Originally posted by Ship69 View Post

                          Is it a traditional wood plank court or a smooth surface?
                          It's a wood-plank. They got rid of the 'crimson' coloring. The Hawk logo at mid-court is now all dark gray. The other big change is the court perimeter is also no longer crimson in color. It is all black with white lettering.

                          Overall, it's a huge aesthetic change.

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                          • Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post
                            Turns out the rumor was true. The new court has been installed inside the KCAC.

                            It's pretty nice. I'd call it 'modern' ... definitely a different look.

                            No idea what they are doing with the old one.
                            Are there any pictures out there?

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                            • Joe tips off in 86 days.

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                              • Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post

                                It's a wood-plank. They got rid of the 'crimson' coloring. The Hawk logo at mid-court is now all dark gray. The other big change is the court perimeter is also no longer crimson in color. It is all black with white lettering.

                                Overall, it's a huge aesthetic change.
                                As I tend toward the old-school, I generally flavor the wood-plank floorings. Smooth surfaces make me think of a community all-purpose rec center rather than a dedicated basketball arena or gym.

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