Iup basketball

[IUPbigINDIANS]

IUP called for 18 fouls to Ashland's 7

IUP took (4) FTs to Ashland's (22).

Officiating was equally terrible last night.

Somehow IUP still won both.

I don't think Joe will be scheduling any more games in GMAC gyms.


Missed calls happen. But, this was some blatant stuff.

The no-call on the Tiffin travel last night when their player slid about 6' with the ball was hilarious.

[bballfan03]

Anyone know what Piotrowicz is up to? I find it interesting hes dropped off the face of the earth per google lol everything is about him playing at Prep, behrenf or Gannon.. coaching at Prep or IUP.. and nothing. I even checked jail records lol

[ironmaniup]

IUP called for 18 fouls to Ashland's 7

IUP took (4) FTs to Ashland's (22).

Officiating was equally terrible last night.

Somehow IUP still won both.

I don't think Joe will be scheduling any more games in GMAC gyms.


Missed calls happen. But, this was some blatant stuff.

The no-call on the Tiffin travel last night when their player slid about 6' with the ball was hilarious.

I think this team will be fun to watch. The 3 Freshman have huge upsides and will improve a lot over the season. 2 tough wins against very physical teams shows a lot. Moore is very good and seems to be settling in. Damir getting his shot, doing well. Sure they need Dillard and Rodriguez playing , but by the end of the season they’ll be competitive with every team in the league I’ll bet

[Chuck Norris]

That was a really nice response to a tough weekend in Charleston, especially to rally against what looks to be a pretty solid team in their gym. There will be ups and downs I’m sure, but there’s the makings of something pretty good. They certainly don’t quit fighting.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

I think this team will be fun to watch. The 3 Freshman have huge upsides and will improve a lot over the season. 2 tough wins against very physical teams shows a lot. Moore is very good and seems to be settling in. Damir getting his shot, doing well. Sure they need Dillard and Rodriguez playing , but by the end of the season they’ll be competitive with every team in the league I’ll bet

A lot of people actually think Rodriguez is the best of the freshmen, too. So, he should be an immediate (big) boost.

They've been scrappy. No doubt.

Triggs and Brooks have went up against four really big lineups so far. Triggs played pretty well yesterday. I didn't love him taking that trey late in the game, but nonetheless.

I'm interested to see where Sebastian Campbell will fit in. I can't imagine he's going straight from football to basketball to just sit on the end of the bench. He should be added to the roster today.

Sarp played far and away his best game of the season last night. He was lost last weekend. I don't know about him starting but I get what Joe's doing due to the lack of a bench. He's trying to cut Triggs' minutes (and keep him out of foul trouble). I'd guess once Rodriguez returns Triggs will go back to starting.

It is interesting to watch the highs and lows of such a young team. This group has great stretches and then bad stretches -- typical of so many freshmen playing.

I agree on Christian Moore. He's a load to handle. The game-winner last night was an incredibly hard shot. He started cold but you could tell once he got going it really opened everything else up.

Overall, this is a much, much faster team (even with playing 6-7 guys). It's going to be an interesting ride.

"When" Dallis comes back, he would obviously be a big boost.

I have no idea where Denzel is. He's on the roster but doesn't even travel. Odd. They (Denzel and Dallis) are both coming off ACLs. That's just a tricky recovery. Both had surgery in January. This is a quick flip to try and play again. Some respond well and return. Some don't.

[IUPalum]

Anyone know what Piotrowicz is up to? I find it interesting hes dropped off the face of the earth per google lol everything is about him playing at Prep, behrenf or Gannon.. coaching at Prep or IUP.. and nothing. I even checked jail records lol

Joe is Italian, those Italians have a funny way of making people disappear. lol j/k

[IUPbigINDIANS]

Joe is Italian, those Italians have a funny way of making people disappear. lol j/k

He may be locked in the McComb basement with that equipment manager.


BTW, Joe is finally off the hook for the uniform debacle. Glenville State played Cal while wearing Charleston's uniforms. No idea what the story was there.

[Ship69]

IUP called for 18 fouls to Ashland's 7

IUP took (4) FTs to Ashland's (22).

Officiating was equally terrible last night.

Somehow IUP still won both.

I don't think Joe will be scheduling any more games in GMAC gyms.


Missed calls happen. But, this was some blatant stuff.

The no-call on the Tiffin travel last night when their player slid about 6' with the ball was hilarious.

When Ship played Salem at Frostburg they had 40 FTs to our 19. Ship actuallly had more field goals than they did and still lost by 21 points. I didn't see the game, so maybe all the calls were legit, but I've seen this team play twice no, and it's hard for me to believe there would be that big of a foul disparity.

[Scrub]

When Ship played Salem at Frostburg they had 40 FTs to our 19. Ship actuallly had more field goals than they did and still lost by 21 points. I didn't see the game, so maybe all the calls were legit, but I've seen this team play twice no, and it's hard for me to believe there would be that big of a foul disparity.

The differing styles played by different conferences probably make these non-con games exceedingly difficult for officials to call.

As an example, last night's game between WLU & Virginia Union was a total war. I'm pretty sure the trainer got more floor time than most of the substitutes. But even so, I get the sense that VUU's coach wanted to see it called a bit more loosely. They're a big, physical team that plays in a conference that values big, physical play. WLU is a fast, nimble team that plays in a conference that values speed and shooting. Tough spot to put the officials in when you've got a fast, finesse team playing a plodding, physical team. There's really no winning if you're wearing the stripes regardless of which way you call it.

The fact that the foul count ended up 18-20 seems to suggest that they found about as good a balance as they could have. But that can't have been easy, and I'm sure the coaches found things to gripe about.

[Ship69]

The differing styles played by different conferences probably make these non-con games exceedingly difficult for officials to call.

As an example, last night's game between WLU & Virginia Union was a total war. I'm pretty sure the trainer got more floor time than most of the substitutes. But even so, I get the sense that VUU's coach wanted to see it called a bit more loosely. They're a big, physical team that plays in a conference that values big, physical play. WLU is a fast, nimble team that plays in a conference that values speed and shooting. Tough spot to put the officials in when you've got a fast, finesse team playing a plodding, physical team. There's really no winning if you're wearing the stripes regardless of which way you call it.

The fact that the foul count ended up 18-20 seems to suggest that they found about as good a balance as they could have. But that can't have been easy, and I'm sure the coaches found things to gripe about.

Basketball in the modern era is not an easy game to officiate. The CIAA has generally been a very physical conference, so I'm not surprised at your account. As I said, all the calls against Ship might very well have been legit. It caught my eye because we're not a particularly physical team this year, and it's hard for me to believe we could put an opponent on the line 40 times. But nothing is impossible.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

Basketball in the modern era is not an easy game to officiate. The CIAA has generally been a very physical conference, so I'm not surprised at your account. As I said, all the calls against Ship might very well have been legit. It caught my eye because we're not a particularly physical team this year, and it's hard for me to believe we could put an opponent on the line 40 times. But nothing is impossible.

I love when the crew lets them beat the pi$$ out of each other for 25 minutes and then suddenly ticky-tacks them to death for the final 15 minutes.

[TheBigCat2192]

When Ship played Salem at Frostburg they had 40 FTs to our 19. Ship actuallly had more field goals than they did and still lost by 21 points. I didn't see the game, so maybe all the calls were legit, but I've seen this team play twice no, and it's hard for me to believe there would be that big of a foul disparity.

Ship has a lot of young guys in their rotation, no?. Perhaps some of the early foul trouble came from them adjusting to the pace of the college game and competing against guys who are older/more developed than they are. As they get more familiar you hope for the fouls to go down. Not a guarantee, some dudes are just reachers or grabbers no matter how much experience they build up but it’s something to watch over the course of the season.

[Ship69]

Ship has a lot of young guys in their rotation, no?. Perhaps some of the early foul trouble came from them adjusting to the pace of the college game and competing against guys who are older/more developed than they are. As they get more familiar you hope for the fouls to go down. Not a guarantee, some dudes are just reachers or grabbers no matter how much experience they build up but it’s something to watch over the course of the season.

True enough, but knowing our team I find it hard to believe we were that much more physical on defense than the opponent. Probably one of the most one-sided displays I've seen recently was last year's game with Purdue-Northwestern (my grad school). I believe Purdue had 46 FTs to something like 6-7 on Northwestern, and Purdue still barely won the game. I could get that NU might pick up a lot of fouls trying to stop Zach Edey. What got me was that Purdue doesn't play sissy defense under Matt Painter, and there's no way you could tell me there was that big a difference in the physicality of the game.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

True enough, but knowing our team I find it hard to believe we were that much more physical on defense than the opponent. Probably one of the most one-sided displays I've seen recently was last year's game with Purdue-Northwestern (my grad school). I believe Purdue had 46 FTs to something like 6-7 on Northwestern, and Purdue still barely won the game. I could get that NU might pick up a lot of fouls trying to stop Zach Edey. What got me was that Purdue doesn't play sissy defense under Matt Painter, and there's no way you could tell me there was that big a difference in the physicality of the game.

Games aren't always called fair. There's 100% a human element to officiating. Just in our little universe of D2, some of our coaches -- being brutally honest -- are complete d!ckheads on the court. They aren't getting close calls. In fact, because of their behavior, they are probably getting ticky-tack calls going against them (purely out of spite).

Let me tell you a little story.

As I often say, I've seen more D2 basketball games that I would ever publicly share. I know our officiating crews (many of them personally). I can tell you almost 100% accurately how a game will go as soon as I see the assigned crew.

A couple examples:

For instance, we have the "GQ Crew" which is far and away the worst in the Region. These are the three -- headlined by 'GQ' -- who honestly think the crowd is there to watch them. Every single game they officiate ... if the teams can play uninterrupted for 30 straight seconds it's a miracle. They ruin the flow of the game and make it terrible to watch. I would venture to bet (if anybody actually wanted to track this) they call double the amount of fouls per game than every other crew in the Region.

Moving along, there's the 'old guy' crew. This trio can no longer efficiently run the court. They are out of position constantly. The game has literally (and physically) passed them by. They specialize in blowing the whistle from 40' away, etc. One of them, in particular, has had it out for Lombardi for the past 15 years. He's T'd up Joe -- not joking -- at least 15-20 times. I'm not naive. Joe can be a jerk to officials -- not so much these days but certainly in his younger days. That said, he (oddly) historically hasn't been T'd up much -- with one (this guy) exception.


Think back to the Kevin Reynolds days at SRU. He was hammering officials in warm-ups lol. You think they were going to do him any favors? Not a chance. KR is much, much calmer these days on the sidelines. He was epic back in the mid 2010s.

[TheBigCat2192]

True enough, but knowing our team I find it hard to believe we were that much more physical on defense than the opponent. Probably one of the most one-sided displays I've seen recently was last year's game with Purdue-Northwestern (my grad school). I believe Purdue had 46 FTs to something like 6-7 on Northwestern, and Purdue still barely won the game. I could get that NU might pick up a lot of fouls trying to stop Zach Edey. What got me was that Purdue doesn't play sissy defense under Matt Painter, and there's no way you could tell me there was that big a difference in the physicality of the game.

I tuned into a bit of the Ship v Salem game. Most of the fouls I saw came from different defenders matched up with Salem’s lanky G/F Davis and senior PG whose name I forget. I think a lot of the younger guys just weren’t ready for those two opponents combo of quickness and height. They weren’t deliberately being physical so much as being caught off-guard by the physicality of someone older than them. My guess is that as they spend more time playing college ball and in the S&C program some of those fouls will disappear.