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  • hawks16
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    Originally posted by EyeoftheHawk View Post

    I think this is probably the greatest value. I’d be surprised if even 1% ever moved through these leagues and eventually into the NBA, but what a neat experience that you could put on a resume and talk about in a job interview.
    Beats growing up! At the end of the day, you're getting paid to play hoops in another country. If you can avoid a war zone, it'd be a nice deal for a couple years.

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  • EyeoftheHawk
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    Originally posted by Ship69 View Post

    I think it's a great experience for a young athlete in most cases. You get to broaden your cultural horizons and get housing and some money while you're doing it. One of my wife's cousins has a grandson who is an excellent baseball player. He was able to play two seasons in Australian and in addition to a decent salary had the use of a car pllus room and board. I sometimes wish I'd found a way to do some overseas travel long before I actually did.
    I think this is probably the greatest value. I’d be surprised if even 1% ever moved through these leagues and eventually into the NBA, but what a neat experience that you could put on a resume and talk about in a job interview.

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  • TheBigCat2192
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    Originally posted by EyeoftheHawk View Post

    I have a lot of questions about these pro basketball leagues overseas. Do they get much of a following? Does anyone show up to watch the games? Do any of these teams pay well?

    I’ve caught some occasional video of overseas games and what I’ve seen is mostly empty gyms. I think it’s nice that the opportunity is there for guys to continue playing after college but I really know almost nothing about it.
    Depends what league you’re playing in. The lower tiers of domestic leagues aren’t much different than playing low-level college ball here. Might be a few more fights in the stands and gambling threats but the money ain’t much. The biggest games can draw well and most NBA guys who played overseas or came from there will mention that those crowds are usually very intense. Financially, when you start getting into the better leagues (Adriatic, Spanish ACB, Turkish Super League, highest tier German or France) or on a team that plays in Eurobasket or EuroLeague games guys start to make a decent living. Not as good as an NBA bench player but better than slumming it in the D-League or whatever it’s called these days.

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  • Ship69
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    Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post


    Like anything else, it's kind of a work your way up thing. The leagues that Dustin Sleva and Cobo Diaz are now in are very high-profile (over there) and they are probably making a pretty decent salary (I'd guess $150k or $200k USD). They both kept getting elevated as the years have passed.

    It's really a tier-type system.
    I think it's a great experience for a young athlete in most cases. You get to broaden your cultural horizons and get housing and some money while you're doing it. One of my wife's cousins has a grandson who is an excellent baseball player. He was able to play two seasons in Australian and in addition to a decent salary had the use of a car pllus room and board. I sometimes wish I'd found a way to do some overseas travel long before I actually did.

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  • IUPbigINDIANS
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    Originally posted by Fightingscot82 View Post

    The pay is mediocre but the benefits are pretty good. Most provide free housing with other players and meal stipends.

    Like anything else, it's kind of a work your way up thing. The leagues that Dustin Sleva and Cobo Diaz are now in are very high-profile (over there) and they are probably making a pretty decent salary (I'd guess $150k or $200k USD). They both kept getting elevated as the years have passed.

    It's really a tier-type system.

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  • Fightingscot82
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    Originally posted by EyeoftheHawk View Post

    I have a lot of questions about these pro basketball leagues overseas. Do they get much of a following? Does anyone show up to watch the games? Do any of these teams pay well?

    I’ve caught some occasional video of overseas games and what I’ve seen is mostly empty gyms. I think it’s nice that the opportunity is there for guys to continue playing after college but I really know almost nothing about it.
    The pay is mediocre but the benefits are pretty good. Most provide free housing with other players and meal stipends.

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  • IUPalum
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    Originally posted by hawks16 View Post
    For those who follow Danish basketball, Ethan Porterfield has signed with Randers Cimbria PRO of the top league there.

    I'm trying to think of our all Hawks Abroad -- is it just Ethan, Dave Morris, Cobo Diaz, Marcel Souberbielle and Mathis Keita?
    Armoni Foster was playing in Ukraine but I think he stopped after their season because it wasn't safe with all the bombings going on there.

    I'm pretty sure David Morris is done with overseas because he just had a child 4 months ago.

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  • IUPbigINDIANS
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    Originally posted by EyeoftheHawk View Post

    I have a lot of questions about these pro basketball leagues overseas. Do they get much of a following? Does anyone show up to watch the games? Do any of these teams pay well?

    I’ve caught some occasional video of overseas games and what I’ve seen is mostly empty gyms. I think it’s nice that the opportunity is there for guys to continue playing after college but I really know almost nothing about it.
    Lot of levels to overseas basketball. The higher levels do draw fairly well. The vast majority, however, are like playing at Clarion.

    The highest leagues also pay fairly well. The rest are pennies.

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  • EyeoftheHawk
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    Originally posted by hawks16 View Post
    For those who follow Danish basketball, Ethan Porterfield has signed with Randers Cimbria PRO of the top league there.

    I'm trying to think of our all Hawks Abroad -- is it just Ethan, Dave Morris, Cobo Diaz, Marcel Souberbielle and Mathis Keita?
    I have a lot of questions about these pro basketball leagues overseas. Do they get much of a following? Does anyone show up to watch the games? Do any of these teams pay well?

    I’ve caught some occasional video of overseas games and what I’ve seen is mostly empty gyms. I think it’s nice that the opportunity is there for guys to continue playing after college but I really know almost nothing about it.

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  • Ship69
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    Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post
    Just when you think you've seen it all ...

    IUP's home opener will be played on Friday, Nov. 22 ... at 3 p.m.

    I'm sure it will have a great gate. lol


    The conference that complains about not making money ... and does every stupid thing imaginable.
    Interesting. Our schedule shows that as a 5 p.m. game. I hope they get together as I'd hate to have our guys show up two hours late for the game.

    And it's not particularly thrilling to open our PSAC season at IUP, but I guess someone has to do it.

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  • hawks16
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    For those who follow Danish basketball, Ethan Porterfield has signed with Randers Cimbria PRO of the top league there.

    I'm trying to think of our all Hawks Abroad -- is it just Ethan, Dave Morris, Cobo Diaz, Marcel Souberbielle and Mathis Keita?

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  • IUPbigINDIANS
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    Pitt plays WVU in the TBT tonight.

    Officially it's the Zoo Crew vs Best Virginia


    If you're dying for some basketball ... it's a good watch. High level play. Most of these guys are still playing overseas. Some played in the NBA.

    It's not like January basketball but it's way above playground.

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  • IUPbigINDIANS
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    Strong showing from the D2 team in the TBT. They lost a nailbiter to Auburn by 7 points.

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  • IUPbigINDIANS
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    Just when you think you've seen it all ...

    IUP's home opener will be played on Friday, Nov. 22 ... at 3 p.m.

    I'm sure it will have a great gate. lol


    The conference that complains about not making money ... and does every stupid thing imaginable.

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  • IUPbigINDIANS
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    Originally posted by EyeoftheHawk View Post

    He looked great. It has me wondering a bit why he was there playing. Could it be that Joe’s trying to pull a Radford 2.0 if Keyes does have another year?

    It sounds like the simple answer is they wanted to scrimmage a team resembling the size of the Auburn team they are playing in Round 1. Keyes did spend a full season here (redshirt) so he is an alumnus of the program. Now, Nathan Davis (Seton Hill) playing for the Alumni team is a different twist. Ironically he hit the game-winning trey to beat the TBT team.

    That was a cool event. I'd like their chances a lot more if they had been able to get Sleva, but he's playing for the Pitt team.

    There are (4) IUP alumni on the TBT team (Armoni, Cobo, Dante and Ethan). The rest of the players are from other D2 programs. The fact the thrown-together Alumni team beat them probably isn't a good sign.

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