SRU

[IUPalum]

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According to the lawsuit, this is the new president and the AD out to get him. Player walk outs totally coincidental.

So he has nothing then...

[IUPbigINDIANS]

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So he has nothing then...

May be they have nothing. Word is there is no smoking gun involved. KR may have a case.

It will settle outside of court if I had to guess.

[CALUPA69]

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From what I've read he doesn't seem well liked by posters, but would he be appealing to other schools in the conference ? Since as has been indicated he has a decent chance of prevailing in his suit, could he avoid being banned from the PSAC ?

[IUPbigINDIANS]

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#witchhunt

[boatcapt]

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So he has nothing then...

He may have a Constructive Discharge case. He was hired to a particular position that being Head Basketball Coach at SRU. That position has a certain stature to it beyond salary alone. The President and AD have apparently removed Reynolds from this position and have put him in a different position against his will. Even if this now position has the same salary, it does not have the same stature as that of Head Basketball Coach. Unless the Prez and AD can show they removed Reynolds for cause (as laid out in the contract), putting him in a new position, even with the same salary, is a Constructive Discharge.

I would say that most of the time, cases like this are settled out of court with neither side admitting any wrong doing.

[CALUPA69]

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He may have a Constructive Discharge case. He was hired to a particular position that being Head Basketball Coach at SRU. That position has a certain stature to it beyond salary alone. The President and AD have apparently removed Reynolds from this position and have put him in a different position against his will. Even if this now position has the same salary, it does not have the same stature as that of Head Basketball Coach. Unless the Prez and AD can show they removed Reynolds for cause (as laid out in the contract), putting him in a new position, even with the same salary, is a Constructive Discharge.

I would say that most of the time, cases like this are settled out of court with neither side admitting any wrong doing.

But as a coach what is his next move after the case is settled?

[IUPbigINDIANS]

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But as a coach what is his next move after the case is settled?

I'd say TBA. Depends what comes out. He could get an essential blackball. Hard to say.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

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Tell you one thing .. they are 4-1 or 5-0 with him this year ... not the 1-4 they are without him.

[CALUPA69]

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Tell you one thing .. they are 4-1 or 5-0 with him this year ... not the 1-4 they are without him.

So you're saying there's a position for him somewhere if this turns out to be much ado about nothing ? Not unlike DANNY SANCOMB.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

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So you're saying there's a position for him somewhere if this turns out to be much ado about nothing ? Not unlike DANNY SANCOMB.

It all just depends what (if anything) surfaces. He's a good coach. Nothing criminal is involved.

Lots of jobs out there. Somebody will hire him.

I would have loved to see him at a school that actually cared about basketball.

[boatcapt]

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So you're saying there's a position for him somewhere if this turns out to be much ado about nothing ? Not unlike DANNY SANCOMB.

Still don't know what the allegations against Sancomb were much less weather they were much ado about nothing. As a minimum, Reynolds will need to take a step back. Unless the allegation is that he was beating his players, I'd say he would probably have to take a step back to a perennial losser looking for a change. His team building "style" (lots of JUCO's and transfers) is conducive to turning a losing program around rather quickly.

[Fightingscot82]

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I've read the Reynolds civil complaint and it reads a lot like the Edinboro women's VB lawsuit complaint against the Edinboro AD: several less than ideal things happened, Reynolds interprets them as unfair and retaliatory in nature, give him money.

For those who don't have it: he believes that he's the victim of unfair treatment because he testified in the basketball player wrongful death civil suit in a way that wouldn't necessarily look flattering for SRU and his graduation rate isn't what the president would like. He also says that trainers refuse to tape his players ankles for practice, he complained, the AD did nothing. Now this suspension. Makes no mention of player walkout. A lot of he said/he said stuff that's probably unable to be proven in court without evidence or a confession that points to intent/motive.

[boatcapt]

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I've read the Reynolds civil complaint and it reads a lot like the Edinboro women's VB lawsuit complaint against the Edinboro AD: several less than ideal things happened, Reynolds interprets them as unfair and retaliatory in nature, give him money.

For those who don't have it: he believes that he's the victim of unfair treatment because he testified in the basketball player wrongful death civil suit in a way that wouldn't necessarily look flattering for SRU and his graduation rate isn't what the president would like. He also says that trainers refuse to tape his players ankles for practice, he complained, the AD did nothing. Now this suspension. Makes no mention of player walkout. A lot of he said/he said stuff that's probably unable to be proven in court without evidence or a confession that points to intent/motive.

Civil suits have a pretty low bar to get over as far as proof...Preponderance of the evidence (more likely than not to have occurred). You can also use hearsay evidence which opens up the lens of what is admissible. Simple question to a low level trainer..."Why didn't you tape the ankles of the players?" Answer: "The head trainer said that the AD told him not to." Question for the AD's administrative assistant: "How did the AD act when you told him that Reynolds said some unflattering things about SRU in his testimony during the wrongful death suit?" Answer: "He looked upset and slammed the door." Question: "How did the AD act toward Reynolds after that?" Answer: "Very short and abrupt, like he was disappointed in Reynolds."

But this filing is just the initial vehicle that initiates the civil process. I would anticipate it to be amended to include (or remove) additional allegations. The long term goal of most of these civil suits is $$$$'s. Almost always impossible to get the other side to the negotiating table absent a civil suit being filed. SRU will now have to do a "cost assessment" of this...Best case cost will be the legal costs associated with defending this in court...Worst case will be the damages and loss of income to Reynolds if the court finds in favor of Reynolds AND the legal cost of going to court. Settling early is always cheaper for BOTH sides (lawyers bills mount quickly!) but early settlements are rare.

[Fightingscot82]

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The nice part of the PA state schools like Slippery Rock is that their legal counsel is all collective in Harrisburg. SRU won't pay anything for their legal fees. That's all Harrisburg since SRU is an extension of a state agency.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

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I've read the Reynolds civil complaint and it reads a lot like the Edinboro women's VB lawsuit complaint against the Edinboro AD: several less than ideal things happened, Reynolds interprets them as unfair and retaliatory in nature, give him money.

For those who don't have it: he believes that he's the victim of unfair treatment because he testified in the basketball player wrongful death civil suit in a way that wouldn't necessarily look flattering for SRU and his graduation rate isn't what the president would like. He also says that trainers refuse to tape his players ankles for practice, he complained, the AD did nothing. Now this suspension. Makes no mention of player walkout. A lot of he said/he said stuff that's probably unable to be proven in court without evidence or a confession that points to intent/motive.

He still isn't actually terminated yet, either.

What if they determine they can't fire him? He has 3 years left on his contract. Do the players walk back out? Quite the circus.

I think they are beyond the point of no return but without legit cause he could be leaving town with a hefty bag of cash.