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  • Presidents Day Special

    I've been looking at all things Massey and what they use to come up with their various predictive tools. Basically, their Rankings are based on the games a team has played and how they preformed in those games compared to all other DII teams. In effect, it is a "reward" for past performance (games that have already been played). The current Top 10 for the Atlantic Region are:

    1. IUP
    2. WLU
    3. Ship
    4. Charleston
    5. Va State
    6. Fairmont
    7. Hurst
    8. Cal
    9. UPJ
    10. JC Smith

    But Massey also has another Ranking that few pay much attention to, that being their Power Ranking (Or PWR). The Power Ranking is the true predictive tool in Massey in that it looks at and quantifies past performance and attempts to predict future results. Massey's Top 10 Power Ranking for the Atlantic currently stand at:

    1. WLU
    2. IUP
    3. Ship
    4. Charleston
    5. Va State
    6. Hurst
    7. Cal
    8. ESU
    9. Fayetville
    10. Va Union

    Sooooo...if you are rewarding a team for how they have played thus far in the season, use the Rankings. But if you are trying to predict the future and win a Washington or Lincoln or two on this Presidents Day, use the Power Rankings!

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    • Originally posted by boatcapt View Post
      Presidents Day Special

      I've been looking at all things Massey and what they use to come up with their various predictive tools. Basically, their Rankings are based on the games a team has played and how they preformed in those games compared to all other DII teams. In effect, it is a "reward" for past performance (games that have already been played). The current Top 10 for the Atlantic Region are:

      1. IUP
      2. WLU
      3. Ship
      4. Charleston
      5. Va State
      6. Fairmont
      7. Hurst
      8. Cal
      9. UPJ
      10. JC Smith

      But Massey also has another Ranking that few pay much attention to, that being their Power Ranking (Or PWR). The Power Ranking is the true predictive tool in Massey in that it looks at and quantifies past performance and attempts to predict future results. Massey's Top 10 Power Ranking for the Atlantic currently stand at:

      1. WLU
      2. IUP
      3. Ship
      4. Charleston
      5. Va State
      6. Hurst
      7. Cal
      8. ESU
      9. Fayetville
      10. Va Union

      Sooooo...if you are rewarding a team for how they have played thus far in the season, use the Rankings. But if you are trying to predict the future and win a Washington or Lincoln or two on this Presidents Day, use the Power Rankings!

      The really cool thing this year (unlike most years) is so much of this will be settled on the court in the stretch run of the regular season (in addition to the crap-shoot conference tournaments).

      Major regular season games remaining:

      UPJ at Mercyhurst
      West Liberty at Fairmont State
      West Virginia State at Charleston
      California at Mercyhurst
      UPJ at IUP
      Virginia Union at Virginia State
      West Chester at East Stroudsburg

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      • It's VERY possible that the 2/29 matchup between ESU and West Chester won't mean anything to ESU for PSAC Tourney seeding purposes, but no one wants a loss going into the playoffs...

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        • Originally posted by WarriorVoice View Post
          It's VERY possible that the 2/29 matchup between ESU and West Chester won't mean anything to ESU for PSAC Tourney seeding purposes, but no one wants a loss going into the playoffs...
          It may mean a ton, though, for the 'real playoffs' (ESU nor WCU can't take many more losses to maintain hopes of the NCAAs).

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          • Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post

            It may mean a ton, though, for the 'real playoffs' (ESU nor WCU can't take many more losses to maintain hopes of the NCAAs).
            Understood...

            West Chester has to win the PSAC Tourney to get to regionals IMO. ESU might be in the same situation...
            Last edited by WarriorVoice; 02-17-2020, 05:25 PM.

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            • (Posted in "Regional ranking predictions" thread under General Discussion)
              1. Indiana (20-2)
              2. Shippensburg (19-5)
              3. Fairmont State (17-5)
              4. West Liberty (20-4)
              5. Charleston (19-5)
              6. Virginia State (19-7)
              7. West Virginia State (16-6)
              8. Pitt Johnstown (16-6)
              9. Johnson C. Smith (17-6)
              10. California (15-8)

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              • Originally posted by Inkblot View Post
                (Posted in "Regional ranking predictions" thread under General Discussion)
                1. Indiana (20-2)
                2. Shippensburg (19-5)
                3. Fairmont State (17-5)
                4. West Liberty (20-4)
                5. Charleston (19-5)
                6. Virginia State (19-7)
                7. West Virginia State (16-6)
                8. Pitt Johnstown (16-6)
                9. Johnson C. Smith (17-6)
                10. California (15-8)
                Ship's record is 20-5.

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                • Originally posted by Ship69 View Post

                  Ship's record is 20-5.
                  The win over Dickinson doesn't count.

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                  • Appreciate all your work on this, Inkblot. Thanks!

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                    • Originally posted by Ship69 View Post

                      Ship's record is 20-5.
                      In the actual Regional Rankings only games against D2 schools count. So, the Dickinson win is basically irrelevant.

                      Same with all the PSU branches, etc.

                      I personally feel they should throw the stats out for those games, too, when it comes to awarding scoring titles, etc.

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                      • Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post


                        The really cool thing this year (unlike most years) is so much of this will be settled on the court in the stretch run of the regular season (in addition to the crap-shoot conference tournaments).

                        Major regular season games remaining:

                        UPJ at Mercyhurst
                        West Liberty at Fairmont State
                        West Virginia State at Charleston
                        California at Mercyhurst
                        UPJ at IUP
                        Virginia Union at Virginia State
                        West Chester at East Stroudsburg
                        Depends on who wins those games. For example, if WVS beats UC, are you going to put them ahead of UC? If so, does UC get the nod over Cal? What about Fairmont armed with their two wins over WVS to go along with their win over Ship?

                        As with most years, I think there will be more than enough room for legit disagreement with the teams that the NCAA selects to represent the Atlantic AND were those teams are seeded.

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                        • This week's coaches poll is out:

                          8. IUP
                          16. WLU

                          Receiving Votes: Ship

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                          • 3-loss Azusa Pacific leapfrogged the Crimson Hawks in the poll. Interesting.

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                            • Originally posted by Scrub View Post
                              3-loss Azusa Pacific leapfrogged the Crimson Hawks in the poll. Interesting.
                              Meaningless...

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                              • Originally posted by Scrub View Post
                                3-loss Azusa Pacific leapfrogged the Crimson Hawks in the poll. Interesting.
                                Name out of the past. IUP played them in the Elite 8 in 2014-15.

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