July 1 - Moving Day 2023

[Predatory Primates]

I wonder if there are many NAIA or d3 teams in those 16 states?

[Purple Mav Man]

I wonder if there are many NAIA or d3 teams in those 16 states?

Plenty

[sportsvine]

Most: Pennsylvania

0: Alaska, Hawaii, California, Arizona, Wyoming, Montana, Idaho, Wisconsin, Vermont, New Hampshire, New York, Nevada, Utah, Illinois, Maryland, Maine?

EDIT: 12/16 ain't bad. Missed a couple obvious ones, and one of them actually surprised me that they don't have a D2 school.

Correct on Alaska, Hawaii, California, Arizona, Wyoming, Montana, Idaho, Wisconsin, Vermont, Nevada, Utah, Maine. Not correct on New Hampshire (has a couple of NE10 teams), New York (has NE10 Pace which is located just north of The Bronx), Illinois which has Mckendree and Quincy from the GLVC. and Maryland has Bowie State from the CIAA and Frostberg St from the MEC.

I agree, I was extremely surprised to learn of a couple of states without D2 football representation.

[sportsvine]

I wonder if there are many NAIA or d3 teams in those 16 states?

Yes, Wisconsin, I am sure is heavily represented by D3, and Idaho and Montana have NAIA. I am not sure what California's deal is, other than I know the state has a ****load of JUCOs.

[SW_Mustang]

Correct on Alaska, Hawaii, California, Arizona, Wyoming, Montana, Idaho, Wisconsin, Vermont, Nevada, Utah, Maine. Not correct on New Hampshire (has a couple of NE10 teams), New York (has NE10 Pace which is located just north of The Bronx), Illinois which has Mckendree and Quincy from the GLVC. and Maryland has Bowie State from the CIAA and Frostberg St from the MEC.

I agree, I was extremely surprised to learn of a couple of states without D2 football representation.

Yup, after I made the list I highlighted the ones I got wrong and figured out the ones I missed. I was actually surprised to see NY had one. 12/16 isn't terrible.

I suppose we could technically add British Columbia as they had one and no longer do, and of course Washington DC.

[SW_Mustang]

Yes, Wisconsin, I am sure is heavily represented by D3, and Idaho and Montana have NAIA. I am not sure what California's deal is, other than I know the state has a ****load of JUCOs.

Wisconsin has the WIAC - a very proud, very old, and very competitive D3 conference. The lack of representation in football beyond that I believe has to do with the mothership not wanting competition on Saturdays. Parkside is the only D2 school, non-football. I'm not sure what their NAIA representation is but I'm sure they have a couple private schools. No FCS or FBS outside of UW.

California has more JUCO football programs than the rest of the country combined. CA just isn't a college football state. I looked a few years ago and they had fewer four-year football programs than Minnesota did. I believe that still holds true.

[SW_Mustang]

Plenty

On the east coast yes, but not so much on the west.

I believe between Arizona and Nevada, there are only 5 schools. California has some representation between JUCO and FCS, but it's pretty small compared to the amount of total colleges they have.

[wscsuperfan]

In FCS news......Bryant is leaving the Big South Conference to join the CAA as its 16th football member

https://www.espn.com/college-footbal...-university-24

[Predatory Primates]

Wisconsin has the WIAC - a very proud, very old, and very competitive D3 conference. The lack of representation in football beyond that I believe has to do with the mothership not wanting competition on Saturdays. Parkside is the only D2 school, non-football. I'm not sure what their NAIA representation is but I'm sure they have a couple private schools. No FCS or FBS outside of UW.

California has more JUCO football programs than the rest of the country combined. CA just isn't a college football state. I looked a few years ago and they had fewer four-year football programs than Minnesota did. I believe that still holds true.

I think the Cali schools are all D1. It's a little nuts that it isn't a better place for cfb with so much talent coming out of that state each year.

[SW_Mustang]

I think the Cali schools are all D1. It's a little nuts that it isn't a better place for cfb with so much talent coming out of that state each year.

Here's the breakdown I found:

FBS - 7
FCS - 4
DII - 0
DIII - 6
NAIA - 0
NCCAA - 0
NJCAA - 1*
CCCAA - 66*
Non-Affiliated - 1

*According to Wikipedia

Also according to Wikipedia - there are 77 athletic programs above the bottom three categories listed. Two of those programs are co-ops across five schools.

17/77 = 22% of non-JUCO/non-affiliated schools have football, for some context.

In comparison to my home state of Minnesota -

FBS - 1
FCS - 1
D2 - 7
D3 - 14
NAIA - 0
NCCAA - 0
NJCAA - 6
CCCAA - 0
Non-Affiliated - 0


According to Wikipedia, there are 29 athletic departments (counting SJU/SBU together). That's 23/29 with football. (79.3%)

Should be noted that Minnesota has two ACCA schools, but since the ACCA doesn't sponsor football I'm not including them.

[sportsvine]

Compare to Nebraska, where I live....

Athletic programs, and football in parenthesis

FBS-3 (1) (obviously UNL rules the roost in football)
D2-3 (3)
D3-1 (1)
NAIA-8 (5)
NCCAA-0
NJCAA-7 (0 I think)
Unaffiliated-1 (0)

So, of the 15 four year college athletic programs in Nebraska, 10 have football, 67%. Counting the 2 year colleges, then is 10/22 or 45%

[Predatory Primates]

Here is KS from Wiki.
D1-3 (2)
D2- 5(4)
D3-0
NAIA- 15 (13) they still list Haskell, and I think it closed down.
NJCAA- 21 doesn't say which have football.
NCCAA-3. No idea if they have football

[SW_Mustang]

Compare to Nebraska, where I live....

Athletic programs, and football in parenthesis

FBS-3 (1) (obviously UNL rules the roost in football)
D2-3 (3)
D3-1 (1)
NAIA-8 (5)
NCCAA-0
NJCAA-7 (0 I think)
Unaffiliated-1 (0)

So, of the 15 four year college athletic programs in Nebraska, 10 have football, 67%. Counting the 2 year colleges, then is 10/22 or 45%

Which one is unaffiliated? Also you are correct, there are no NJCAA football schools in Nebraska. NJCAA football should be extinct outside of the southern US by the end of the decade, I'm predicting (and unfortunately).

[SW_Mustang]

Here's South Dakota - where I currently reside:

FCS: 2
D2: 5
NAIA: 3

All four year institutions that have sports also have football.

My point in said exercise is football just isn't a big deal in California, and small school football is a big victim of that - though that's everywhere in the deep western US.

[SW_Mustang]

Here is KS from Wiki.
D1-3 (2)
D2- 5(4)
D3-0
NAIA- 15 (13) they still list Haskell, and I think it closed down.
NJCAA- 21 doesn't say which have football.
NCCAA-3. No idea if they have football

Haskell discontinued football a few years ago unfortunately.

I checked and none of those NCCAA schools sponsor football.

Should also be noted that the USCAA still has football listed as a sponsored sport but I don't believe any schools have participated in the last few years.