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  • #31
    They're also going to have to do something about the gender inequity in higher education. Since 65% of college students are female they may want to do something about that.

    But it's college's own fault they got fat on constantly raising their cost of attendance and then trying to appeal to students who weren't ready to go to college. Selling them on liberal arts degrees and most of them should have been getting technical degrees. For somebody who went from non college parents to grad school it takes a lot of something to make that jump. We have degrees in social justice out there. You went into $100,000 worth of debt for a degree in social justice. That's ridiculous. Colleges have way more staff than instructors. And most are just sitting there in padded jobs to get the most power and do the least amount of work.

    Higher education needs a wake up call. And unfortunate secular public arts called colleges are going to be the one that pay the price. Because that big boy University they got used to 30,000 students and going to be a happy with 20 k. Truman State is operating at half the student enrollment they had in 2015. Northeastern is at 5,000 students. I was a senior when they had 9,300.

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    • #32
      Concordia University of Ann Arbor, Michigan is dropping all of it's athletic programs after the 2024-2025 academic year. :(

      https://www.cuaa.edu/about/future/st...-athletes.html

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      Last edited by crixus; 07-07-2024, 03:41 PM.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Finchwidget View Post

        Good for them. Was starting to think they were gonna be the odd one out in the musical chairs game that the dissolution of their conference became over the past few years
        Gallaudet University has been my favorite D3 team for a long time. I'm happy they've found a new football home in the ODAC. Coach Chuck Goldstein is a great guy who really cares about Bison football. If you're ever in Washington, DC be sure to check out their campus. If you like architecture you'll love it there.

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        Last edited by crixus; 07-07-2024, 03:29 PM.

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        • #34
          Budget issues have claimed another JUCO as Lehigh Carbon (Pa.) Community College will be dropping intercollegiate athletics at the end of this season in favor of an intramural apporach:

          https://www.wfmz.com/news/area/lehig...fe466e7a9.html
          Cal U (Pa.) Class of 2014

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          • #35
            Originally posted by ctrabs74 View Post
            Budget issues have claimed another JUCO as Lehigh Carbon (Pa.) Community College will be dropping intercollegiate athletics at the end of this season in favor of an intramural apporach:
            I watched their softball team play in the national tournament in Rochester, MN a few years ago. More and more JCs are going this route.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by the Northeasterner View Post
              They're also going to have to do something about the gender inequity in higher education. Since 65% of college students are female they may want to do something about that.

              But it's college's own fault they got fat on constantly raising their cost of attendance and then trying to appeal to students who weren't ready to go to college. Selling them on liberal arts degrees and most of them should have been getting technical degrees. For somebody who went from non college parents to grad school it takes a lot of something to make that jump. We have degrees in social justice out there. You went into $100,000 worth of debt for a degree in social justice. That's ridiculous. Colleges have way more staff than instructors. And most are just sitting there in padded jobs to get the most power and do the least amount of work.

              Higher education needs a wake up call. And unfortunate secular public arts called colleges are going to be the one that pay the price. Because that big boy University they got used to 30,000 students and going to be a happy with 20 k. Truman State is operating at half the student enrollment they had in 2015. Northeastern is at 5,000 students. I was a senior when they had 9,300.
              PREACH!!! Why aren't people yelling this from the hills? It is the bureaucracy that is killing these institutions more than anything. Birth rates are declining too but it is mostly the assistant vice-president for toothpick selections and their like that are to blame.
              Go Bronchos!

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              • #37
                Well these survey results don't bode well for small liberal arts colleges...

                https://apnews.com/article/higher-ed...67a54f61af11f1

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                • #38
                  UAFS tried to get into the GAC originally, but the GAC said no because they didn't have a football team. For them to be in the MIAA now, it's almost like a bit stomp on the GAC in many ways. Hope they do well there.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Bballfan View Post
                    Well these survey results don't bode well for small liberal arts colleges...

                    https://apnews.com/article/higher-ed...67a54f61af11f1
                    Of the ~20 non-profit private schools in Minnesota, I can't recall any of my high school classmates attending any of them. I can maybe name 5 of the schools I know alumni of. It's a small sample size, but I just don't understand how we can support that many in one geographic area.

                    I'veuse the term "academically unremarkable" - meaning the education isn't special in any way, and this applies to maybe 16-17 of those schools. The same education could be had for far cheaper at a local public university.

                    Now I get religious affiliations, athletics, and foreign students - but I don't know how that alone is going to keep so many of these institutions going, especially when they aren't offering any unique programs. It's not hard to see why the dominoes have been falling in the academically dense northeast...



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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by SW_Mustang View Post

                      Of the ~20 non-profit private schools in Minnesota, I can't recall any of my high school classmates attending any of them. I can maybe name 5 of the schools I know alumni of. It's a small sample size, but I just don't understand how we can support that many in one geographic area.

                      I'veuse the term "academically unremarkable" - meaning the education isn't special in any way, and this applies to maybe 16-17 of those schools. The same education could be had for far cheaper at a local public university.

                      Now I get religious affiliations, athletics, and foreign students - but I don't know how that alone is going to keep so many of these institutions going, especially when they aren't offering any unique programs. It's not hard to see why the dominoes have been falling in the academically dense northeast...


                      I went through the college selection process when my son was looking at schools about 8 years ago. We looked at public universities and private schools. Public schools tend to have the same mission, while private schools vary some more. Once I understood that, what the schools had to offer (and their price) started to make sense.

                      I get that many think colleges should become glorified post high school vo-tech- that a degree should somehow confer a job qualification. I think there's more to a college education than just acquiring a skill.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by njmav1 View Post

                        I went through the college selection process when my son was looking at schools about 8 years ago. We looked at public universities and private schools. Public schools tend to have the same mission, while private schools vary some more. Once I understood that, what the schools had to offer (and their price) started to make sense.

                        I get that many think colleges should become glorified post high school vo-tech- that a degree should somehow confer a job qualification. I think there's more to a college education than just acquiring a skill.
                        I mean... I get it. Universities really weren't intended to be job training centers. However, the reality is the cost of a university education is so high, I don't know how the average person can go to college and not consider how it will affect their employment options.

                        I know those things don't exist in a vacuum - maybe going to that private school puts a student in an environment with likeminded people and the networking at that particular school far outweighs the employability of the major they pursued. Maybe someone pursues an English degree at an LAC that gets them into a top-tier grad school. But the average student really shouldn't be forking over $50,000 without some kind of a plan as to how that will make their lives better in the long run - and for many, it just isn't anymore.

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                        • #42
                          In general, Higher ed has spent decades dumbing down the curriculum to pump more students through while jacking up the prices to milk studentsfor all they could. There had to be a.tipping point.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Mulerider View Post

                            UAFS tried to get into the GAC originally, but the GAC said no because they didn't have a football team. For them to be in the MIAA now, it's almost like a bit stomp on the GAC in many ways. Hope they do well there.
                            UAFS still doesn’t have football so who cares?

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                            • #44
                              https://www.ncaa.org/news/2024/7/11/...on-sept-1.aspx

                              Westmont was given full membership a year early. All other schools advanced as expected, including full membership for Allen, Edward Waters, and Emory & Henry.

                              Jamestown, UC Merced, and UT Dallas were accepted into the new 2-year membership process. Point Park has to go through the 3-year process... ironic, since they're the only one of the four that's playing D2 schedules in 2024–25.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Inkblot View Post
                                https://www.ncaa.org/news/2024/7/11/...on-sept-1.aspx

                                Westmont was given full membership a year early. All other schools advanced as expected, including full membership for Allen, Edward Waters, and Emory & Henry.

                                Jamestown, UC Merced, and UT Dallas were accepted into the new 2-year membership process. Point Park has to go through the 3-year process... ironic, since they're the only one of the four that's playing D2 schedules in 2024–25.
                                I imagine the MEC brass isn’t too happy hearing their new addition has to go through the long process. They’ve had two schools close in the last ~18 months and lost an affiliate to Conference Carolinas. What happens if someone else bolts before Point Park becomes full D2?

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