OT: D1

[IUPbigINDIANS]

That “second oldest” claim is bogus given that the original game was played between two high school teams. The Orange and Sugar Bowl were both played for the first time in 1935. The first real Sun Bowl was played in ‘36.

Different direction here but who can forget Pitt playing in the Sun Bowl and losing, 3-0.

That game had insane wind. Neither team could throw, kick, punt, etc.

It was so bad it was actually entertaining.

[TheBigCat2192]

The Sun Bowl is the second oldest Bowl Game after the Rose Bowl. I would argue that, relatively speaking, it is the most significant in terms of value to the respective community. It's a week long event with a big parade and everything. It's a source of civic pride in El Paso.

That “second oldest” claim is bogus given that the original game was played between two high school teams. The Orange and Sugar Bowl were both played for the first time in 1935. The first real Sun Bowl was played in ‘36.

[Fightingscot82]

Correct. A lot of the no-name bowls are JV games.

I'm totally okay with players having the ability to transfer like normal students. But maybe they can't enter the portal for 48 hours after their team's season ends. That would also prevent them quitting to enter ASAP.

[Ship69]

Correct. A lot of the no-name bowls are JV games.

It's gotten ridiculous. I think Iowa's stud running back has bowed out of their game. He was probably more than half their offense. It would be like Boise State playing against Penn State without Ashton Jeanty.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

I saw in the Oklahoma game that most of the roster is underclassmen. The new portal, and guys skipping the postseason, are going to end the traditional redshirt philosophy. When Joe Cool from a non-contender skips the bowl game, you're suddenly playing lots of young kids.

Correct. A lot of the no-name bowls are JV games.

[Fightingscot82]

I saw in the Oklahoma game that most of the roster is underclassmen. The new portal, and guys skipping the postseason, are going to end the traditional redshirt philosophy. When Joe Cool from a non-contender skips the bowl game, you're suddenly playing lots of young kids.

[Fightingscot82]

The Sun Bowl is the second oldest Bowl Game after the Rose Bowl. I would argue that, relatively speaking, it is the most significant in terms of value to the respective community. It's a week long event with a big parade and everything. It's a source of civic pride in El Paso.

Thanks. Another great example.

[IUPNation]

They didn’t waste time in State College to take the wrecking ball to the Erector Set…

[iupgroundhog]

Thank ESPN for that. The original bowls were created by civic organizations to develop tourism and generate funds for local charities. I think the only remaining one is the Rose Bowl. The actual game was just the headliner of a multi-day celebration with parades, concerts, etc. ESPN did the math and saw how profitable the TV revenue was for what were then garbage bowls and started creating more. Profitable enough without a ticket sold, the revenue model basically uses ticket sales to cover the facility costs. ESPN owned, operated, or had exclusive production rights to most bowls created in the BCS era.

The Sun Bowl is the second oldest Bowl Game after the Rose Bowl. I would argue that, relatively speaking, it is the most significant in terms of value to the respective community. It's a week long event with a big parade and everything. It's a source of civic pride in El Paso.

[Fightingscot82]

You know what is really nuts is that this game like every non playoff bowl game is meaningless. They did this to win a game that in the end doesn’t count for squat.

The bowls are a joke. I mean if they want to make some of them relevant, split D1 into three tiers and use the lesser bowls in the same manner as the FBS playoffs.
otherwise it’s time to ditch most of them outside of the big ones used for playoff games.

Forty years ago there were 18 bowl games. BYU was crowned NC by playing in the Holiday Bowl on Dec 21.

There are 47 today. Ridiculous!!

Thank ESPN for that. The original bowls were created by civic organizations to develop tourism and generate funds for local charities. I think the only remaining one is the Rose Bowl. The actual game was just the headliner of a multi-day celebration with parades, concerts, etc. ESPN did the math and saw how profitable the TV revenue was for what were then garbage bowls and started creating more. Profitable enough without a ticket sold, the revenue model basically uses ticket sales to cover the facility costs. ESPN owned, operated, or had exclusive production rights to most bowls created in the BCS era.

[ctrabs74]

What a difference for Pitt after the QB change.

The first one looked liked they picked him up at a truck stop.

They still lost to Holy Toledo. Losing to MAC schools is pretty much on brand for "Fail to Pitt" football.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

You know what is really nuts is that this game like every non playoff bowl game is meaningless. They did this to win a game that in the end doesn’t count for squat.

The bowls are a joke. I mean if they want to make some of them relevant, split D1 into three tiers and use the lesser bowls in the same manner as the FBS playoffs.
otherwise it’s time to ditch most of them outside of the big ones used for playoff games.

Forty years ago there were 18 bowl games. BYU was crowned NC by playing in the Holiday Bowl on Dec 21.

There are 47 today. Ridiculous!!

It wasn't meaningless to Toledo.

Losing to a MAC school is never good - low-budget bowl or not.

Pitt needed that game to stop the bleeding. Embarrassing loss.

[IUPNation]

That Toledo team was out of control. I’ve honestly never seen a football game like that. Ripping guys helmets off. Vicious facemask penalties. Egregious taunting during the game. Toledo had one player ejected and probably could have had more.

There was zero in the way of sportsmanship from Jason Candle’s team. Personally had no problem with Pitt walking off the field. And that’s generally not how I would feel.

You know what is really nuts is that this game like every non playoff bowl game is meaningless. They did this to win a game that in the end doesn’t count for squat.

The bowls are a joke. I mean if they want to make some of them relevant, split D1 into three tiers and use the lesser bowls in the same manner as the FBS playoffs.
otherwise it’s time to ditch most of them outside of the big ones used for playoff games.

Forty years ago there were 18 bowl games. BYU was crowned NC by playing in the Holiday Bowl on Dec 21.

There are 47 today. Ridiculous!!

[IUP24]

I missed that since I unknowingly tuned out early. That game got really chippy, borderline out of control at times.

That Toledo team was out of control. I’ve honestly never seen a football game like that. Ripping guys helmets off. Vicious facemask penalties. Egregious taunting during the game. Toledo had one player ejected and probably could have had more.

There was zero in the way of sportsmanship from Jason Candle’s team. Personally had no problem with Pitt walking off the field. And that’s generally not how I would feel.

[Chuck Norris]

Narduzzi sprinting to the lockers and not shaking hands was also a great look

I missed that since I unknowingly tuned out early. That game got really chippy, borderline out of control at times.