OT: D1

[IUP24]

Young people seem to have a real problem with the world and blame older people for this. I see this everywhere - even in my personal life when dealing with people in their 30's. This younger generation will have to get over that very soon.

I generally think all generations see this the same way. You're alluding to people who are generally in the same general age bracket as myself and somebody like BigCat2192. But Millennials and probably more specifically, Gex X, often view Gen Z the same way you view those 2 generations younger than you.

I certainly don't agree with everything Gen Z does/says. Much like I don't agree with everything that the baby boomer generation says/does. We all see and view the world differently. We mostly all have the same problem generation to generation, but we have to face it uniquely and differently than other generations due to a variety of circumstances. The world changes and adapts constantly, but much of the problems we blame each other for seem to always remain the same. There's no inherent wisdom just because one generation is older. Somebody could be 50 years older, but their approach to life may be vastly different than their younger counterpart. Doesn't mean either is right or wrong.

[IUP24]

I followed the link in the MSN article to the Yahoo article it was citing and had to laugh at one of the images they used. It shows an elderly man with glasses holding up a sign that says “NCAA end NIL.” It’s a perfect summation of this whole affair: the generation of ladder-pullers hate the idea of the young getting anything and will do whatever it takes to stop it.

I don't necessarily like or agree with all things going on in the world of collegiate sports. We're the same age. I don't have a problem with college athletes getting something, and never have really, but I have an overarching issue with how "off the rails" it has really gotten. I always supported some model where all athletes, of both genders, in all sports, and across all levels/divisions "got something." But I always wanted that to be fair and consistent across the board.

The argument about student athletes getting paid was always rooted in the idea of them never being able to hold a job due to the time commitment and required mandated (allowable) hours per week in season and out of season. It wasn't until very recently (within the last 10 years) that people started using the argument of the "business" of college athletics as being their talking point to support straight pay for play.

I do wonder how this would all look if 10-20 years ago, individuals would have had the foresight to see this on the horizon. The Ed O'Bannon case against EA Sports and the NCAA was really the first major shot across the bow that should have indicated changes would eventually be coming. If you would have given every student athlete 25,000 a semester long before any of this came to fruition, would that have solved it? I don't know. But it's worth asking that question.

[Ram040506]

Young people seem to have a real problem with the world and blame older people for this. I see this everywhere - even in my personal life when dealing with people in their 30's. This younger generation will have to get over that very soon.

Depends on your vantage point. I'm in the middle (mid 40's), both sides have a lot of valid points against the other, and neither cares to hear the other side.

[iupgroundhog]

I followed the link in the MSN article to the Yahoo article it was citing and had to laugh at one of the images they used. It shows an elderly man with glasses holding up a sign that says “NCAA end NIL.” It’s a perfect summation of this whole affair: the generation of ladder-pullers hate the idea of the young getting anything and will do whatever it takes to stop it.

Young people seem to have a real problem with the world and blame older people for this. I see this everywhere - even in my personal life when dealing with people in their 30's. This younger generation will have to get over that very soon.

[TheBigCat2192]

Interesting read for those who care. Movement on creating the "College Sports Commision." The high level overview is that this would assist in management of the House settlement (which would largely regulate NIL deals - as I have discussed on here for a while... i.e... No more giving a player X dollars just because and saying it's NIL). This would also help to regulate and limit schools and players from individually suing the NCAA, conferences, etc., based on their own interpretation of rules, eligibility, etc.

As we've been seeing over the last year, players are suing over absolutely ridiculous items and winning easily every against the NCAA at every turn. That QB from Vandy getting a 7th year of eligibility because he played JUCO football as an example (the reason being that JUCO is not affiliated with NCAA). Absurd rulings like that at local courts that have rooted/vested interest in local college sports (don't think that stuff doesn't exist in these situations).

Power Four schools could face expulsion from conferences if they don't sign binding contract, per report

By and large, I think this is good for college athletics if they can find a realistic pathway to manage these unregulated items. I do think, however, that this is the first step in the eventual breakaway from the NCAA for most of the schools in the Power 4. I think the next step will be some type of player's union, being the next major change. From what I've read, I do believe this stuff will occur quicker than I initially anticipated. To be clear, I don't enjoy or like any of this stuff. But this is the direction this is going.

I followed the link in the MSN article to the Yahoo article it was citing and had to laugh at one of the images they used. It shows an elderly man with glasses holding up a sign that says “NCAA end NIL.” It’s a perfect summation of this whole affair: the generation of ladder-pullers hate the idea of the young getting anything and will do whatever it takes to stop it.

[IUP24]

Interesting read for those who care. Movement on creating the "College Sports Commision." The high level overview is that this would assist in management of the House settlement (which would largely regulate NIL deals - as I have discussed on here for a while... i.e... No more giving a player X dollars just because and saying it's NIL). This would also help to regulate and limit schools and players from individually suing the NCAA, conferences, etc., based on their own interpretation of rules, eligibility, etc.

As we've been seeing over the last year, players are suing over absolutely ridiculous items and winning easily every against the NCAA at every turn. That QB from Vandy getting a 7th year of eligibility because he played JUCO football as an example (the reason being that JUCO is not affiliated with NCAA). Absurd rulings like that at local courts that have rooted/vested interest in local college sports (don't think that stuff doesn't exist in these situations).

Power Four schools could face expulsion from conferences if they don't sign binding contract, per report

By and large, I think this is good for college athletics if they can find a realistic pathway to manage these unregulated items. I do think, however, that this is the first step in the eventual breakaway from the NCAA for most of the schools in the Power 4. I think the next step will be some type of player's union, being the next major change. From what I've read, I do believe this stuff will occur quicker than I initially anticipated. To be clear, I don't enjoy or like any of this stuff. But this is the direction this is going.

[IUPNation]

JoePa on a roll in just about everything.

They probably still wouldn’t win the Dixon Trophy.

🤣

[IUP24]

JoePa on a roll in just about everything.

Money can do that. Now.

Not sure they - or anyone else for that matter - will be able to sustain elite level athletics in multiple sports in a few months when the new model kicks in. But yeah, they're on a roll in everything.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

The Centre County Community College’s Athletic Department historic year rolls on as now Men’s Lacrosse has made the Final Four.

JoePa on a roll in just about everything.

[IUPNation]

The Centre County Community College Athletic Department’s historic year rolls on as now Men’s Lacrosse has made the Final Four.

[ctrabs74]

The 12-game FCS schedule and the "end of Week 0" is very close to becoming reality:

https://www.ncaa.org/news/2025/5/6/m...tart-date.aspx

[Fightingscot82]

Reports swirling that Bill Belichick's 24 year old girlfriend is banned from the athletic facilities. If true, that's amazing, but also smart. She's nothing but a distraction and keeps others from cutting in on their arrangement.

[IUP24]

From what I'm being told, Dugger's father felt he should be an FBS starting quarterback this fall. He fell to third on the depth chart after Heintschel passed him up. When it was clear he wasn't going to play, he transferred. He supposedly has a visit to Washington State, but otherwise, what I'm hearing is he is likely dropping to a smaller school to play QB and try to ascend back to P4 down the road. Pitt was his only P4 offer out of Penn Hills.

Cole Gonzales helps Pitt as an experienced QB who can be a backup. He played at Western Carolina (for Kade Bell and his dad) before going to Oklahoma for one year. He knows the Kade Bell offense and provides good experience in the event that Holstein goes down. I have to think there still may be some lingering health items with Holstein if they were able to attract Gonzales, although I have not heard anything to suggest that. QBs 1-3 of Holstein, Gonzales, and Heintschel in 2025 is far superior to Holstein, Nate Yarnell, and Ty Deffienbach of 2024.

Dugger commits to Washington State.

Somebody here had Dugger visiting Washington State, which was news that was never public. Just sayin’…

[IUP24]

One is worth what somebody is willing to pay.

Within the confines of what NIL was supposed to be. You have to recognize that there are complex layers to this pertaining to college athletics that aren't just as simple as what you just said.

They are worth what somebody is willing to pay within the 20.5 million dollar revenue sharing model. And they are worth what a business is willing to pay (and deem legitimate exchange of services under the House settlement) for an NIL opportunity.

We can disagree on the entire premise of NIL, payments, etc. What we should not be able to disagree with is the process of how this was abused from the start. Some may like that it was abused, others may not. But it was abused and not the intent of what it was deemed allowable.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

Yeah and that's why its now tainted. Players were already compensated for playing - just not paid in cash. Tuition scholarships, housing and meal plan waivers, free clothing, etc. A tuition waiver for employees is sometimes a taxable benefit. Sometimes free housing is a taxable benefit for employees.

Go out and get celebrity endorsement deals, do autograph signings, get paid for working camps & clinics, etc. That's all legit work and outside of their position as XYZ University football player.

But $150,000 just for wearing the jersey on Saturdays is too much in my mind. I can't be the only one.

One is worth what somebody is willing to pay.