OT: D1

[IUPbigINDIANS]

We're going to see a total demarcation of football revenue staying within football to fund player payments and coaching salaries. That old fashioned model of using football & men's basketball revenue to fund the entire department is over.

The old way of buying superstars will rev back up. Bags of cash.

The rogue boosters will come back to power.

[Fightingscot82]

We're going to see a total demarcation of football revenue staying within football to fund player payments and coaching salaries. That old fashioned model of using football & men's basketball revenue to fund the entire department is over.

[IUP24]

They aren't, which is why the major programs are all hiring GMs (to essentially manage the cap).

Schools are beginning to go this route because (contrary to what many believe and what I argued with everyone about in August), collectives aren't going to be what drives the money moving forward. The money dished out in payments (up to 21 million) is going to be coming directly from the school.

Now... Where they are getting that money is going to vary. Some many utilize tv revenue, others may be given money from collective donations, etc. But the point is, Buddy Garrity (if you know, you know) who owns the car dealership can no longer just write a check to buy whatever player he wants because, gosh darn it, he just wants his team to win that badly... He can, I suppose, but there are going to be a lot more checks and balances within that process under this new format. Will schools skirt around the intend application of this? Sure.

The bottom line is that because of the dollar value that is part of the House settlement, which will be direct payment to student athletes from the university, the collectives aren't going to drive this way that they have been. There's also going to be far less opportunities for those groups to raise and spend money, because the money they are currently raising is now going to the university directly to ultimately distribute, now, directly to the players. What's existed the last 2-3 years has been payments disguised as faux NIL claims. What we are seeing as NIL now is never what NIL was actually intended to be.

Some schools are utilizing a GM for just one sport. Others have brought in a GM for a few sports. Everyone seems to be taking a different approach. Doug Whaley is supposedly the "GM" of Pitt's football program. That checks out considering how Whaley's time in the NFL as a GM went.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

I’m guessing most coaches aren’t really equipped to handle these negotiations in the first place. I wonder what the typical process is. Does a kid and an agent sit down with the coach and lay out his demands? Do the schools have someone on their side of the table negotiating or is it just the coaching staff? Are there actual signed contracts and if so, are they with the school or the collective? Such a strange time we’re living in.

They aren't, which is why the major programs are all hiring GMs (to essentially manage the cap).

[Fightingscot82]

Its my understanding that the collectives just throw a docusign contract to the recruit and its on the recruit to review, sign, & return. Not exactly sure that's the best method, but I don't think its unethical. This is what happens when we're throwing thousands and millions at 18 year olds, some of whose parents don't exactly math.

[EyeoftheHawk]

Since we’re talking NIL - former Miami recruit turned Florida recruit Jaden Rashada sued UF’s head coach and an executive from the collective after not receiving allegedly promised money. A court dismissed part of the suit but ruled that the case could go on to discovery for fraud and conspiracy to commit fraud. I’m curious to see where this case goes and if it might be enough to get Napier fired.

I’m guessing most coaches aren’t really equipped to handle these negotiations in the first place. I wonder what the typical process is. Does a kid and an agent sit down with the coach and lay out his demands? Do the schools have someone on their side of the table negotiating or is it just the coaching staff? Are there actual signed contracts and if so, are they with the school or the collective? Such a strange time we’re living in.

[TheBigCat2192]

Since we’re talking NIL - former Miami recruit turned Florida recruit Jaden Rashada sued UF’s head coach and an executive from the collective after not receiving allegedly promised money. A court dismissed part of the suit but ruled that the case could go on to discovery for fraud and conspiracy to commit fraud. I’m curious to see where this case goes and if it might be enough to get Napier fired.

[IUP24]

I have to imagine this is happening continually behind the scenes and this one just happened to get the media attention given the popularity of the programs and player involved. A big name getting outed might make others think twice about how aggressive they get.

The report is Dan Lanning notified Josh Huepel that his people were snooping around looking for money.

[EyeoftheHawk]

One other note… As the House settlement is getting finalized and codified, many of these guys think (and probably know) they are going to be unable to cash in for bogus NIL deals moving forward. The money is soon going to be less, or more restrictive in how it’s allocated. So I think there may be one or two more of these situations prior to the month ending.

I have to imagine this is happening continually behind the scenes and this one just happened to get the media attention given the popularity of the programs and player involved. A big name getting outed might make others think twice about how aggressive they get.

[IUP24]

Yep, love it as well. These P4 teams are loaded with depth of talent so the drop isn’t going to be far from QB1 to QB2, or a lot of other positions for that matter.

One other note… As the House settlement is getting finalized and codified, many of these guys think (and probably know) they are going to be unable to cash in for bogus NIL deals moving forward. The money is soon going to be less, or more restrictive in how it’s allocated. So I think there may be one or two more of these situations prior to the month ending.

[IUP24]

Yep, love it as well. These P4 teams are loaded with depth of talent so the drop isn’t going to be far from QB1 to QB2, or a lot of other positions for that matter.

Most of these programs are too in bed with the devil to do this, but it would be something if we got to a point where ADs, boosters, head coaches, etc., started colluding to NOT give these guys what they are after when they pull stunts like this.

That happens in all the other pro leagues for one reason or another. And for better or worse, these guys now are professionals.

Nico is not going to land in a better situation. And being in a good situation increases your likelihood of actually making a living playing football at the next level. Say he was advised poorly all you want. One guy made the final decision to skip meetings, skip practice, etc. And that guy is the one who got booted from his team.

[EyeoftheHawk]

Good on Josh Huepel and Tennessee. Somebody needed to eventually put their foot down.

Yep, love it as well. These P4 teams are loaded with depth of talent so the drop isn’t going to be far from QB1 to QB2, or a lot of other positions for that matter.

[IUP24]

Good on Josh Huepel and Tennessee. Somebody needed to eventually put their foot down.

[ctrabs74]

Looks like Nevada just announced they were joining the PAC 12 as well.

Wasn't Nevada-Reno's move already announced? I can't keep track of who's staying in the Mountain West(ish) and who's leaving for the PACifist 12.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

Tennessee QB saying pay me more or goodbye.

Gotta love it.

It's going to get crazy next week (Portal window).