OT: D1

[Fightingscot82]

Since you formerly worked at a NEC school what other schools in the conference can you see dropping down?

Just told a former PSAC head coach that if Andy Toole leaves, I could see RMU dropping to D2. Yes, they're now in the Horizon, but the school funded its expansion on enrollment growth that didn't stick around.

In reality, nearly all of the current NEC members should be D2, especially the one in Erie. Some and maybe most of the MAAC - several who were D2 schools not long ago - would be better off in D2. Most of these schools have lost enrollment and will continue to do so and generally aren't good at fundraising with the exception of a handful of gonzo donors. Reinvest in D2 football in the Northeast!

All but one of the NEC members are private schools so they're just budgeting the discounting to cover the athletic scholarships and paying the operational costs of the programs. If they didn't factor in the discounts, I bet several spend less than the top PSAC schools. A lot jumped up to D1 before the rules changed 40 years ago. RMU went straight from junior college sports to D1. The schools with stronger finances like the MAAC and America East should consolidate, too, and force the "D1 in name only" to pony up or drop down.

[shipfbfan1]

GOOD

Since you formerly worked at a NEC school what other schools in the conference can you see dropping down?

[Fightingscot82]

First school drops out of D1 and surprise it's a PA school. NEC Member St. Francis leaving the NEC and dropping down to D3 in 2026.

https://x.com/SamHerderFCS/status/1904568094921482681

GOOD

[shipfbfan1]

First school drops out of D1 and surprise it's a PA school. NEC Member St. Francis leaving the NEC and dropping down to D3 in 2026.

https://x.com/SamHerderFCS/status/1904568094921482681

[iupgroundhog]

…and tonight the whole event turns into a circus with the clown attending.

That sucks. He is ruining these events. I hope he doesn't decide to go to Opening Day between the Phillies and the Nationals.

[IUPNation]

It is and always will be. Both Clarion and Lock Haven have finished 5th, but that goes back many years. I can't recall Bloom's highest finish but I'm pretty sure that was when they had the Bonomo brothers. Clarion would have finished 3rd one year in the early 70's but it was during the transition to the NCAA divisions and Clarion was officially D2 and did not qualify in the team standings.

With the way things have changed, I don't think even a top 10 finish is possible for the PSAC teams any more. LHU is going to finish in a tie for 40th and Edinboro in a tie for 58th. Overall, disappointing tournament for the MAC as the conference has only 1 All-American.

Of course, PSU is headed for their 12th championship in the last 15 years. Quite a run.

…and tonight the whole event turns into a circus with the clown attending.

[Bart]

It is and always will be. Both Clarion and Lock Haven have finished 5th, but that goes back many years. I can't recall Bloom's highest finish but I'm pretty sure that was when they had the Bonomo brothers. Clarion would have finished 3rd one year in the early 70's but it was during the transition to the NCAA divisions and Clarion was officially D2 and did not qualify in the team standings.

With the way things have changed, I don't think even a top 10 finish is possible for the PSAC teams any more. LHU is going to finish in a tie for 40th and Edinboro in a tie for 58th. Overall, disappointing tournament for the MAC as the conference has only 1 All-American.

Of course, PSU is headed for their 12th championship in the last 15 years. Quite a run.

Bloom 7th in 1986 and 5th in 1987 with the Bonomo brothers.

[iupgroundhog]

10 years ago today, Edinboro finished #3 in Division 1 wrestling. Still an amazing feat.

It is and always will be. Both Clarion and Lock Haven have finished 5th, but that goes back many years. I can't recall Bloom's highest finish but I'm pretty sure that was when they had the Bonomo brothers. Clarion would have finished 3rd one year in the early 70's but it was during the transition to the NCAA divisions and Clarion was officially D2 and did not qualify in the team standings.

With the way things have changed, I don't think even a top 10 finish is possible for the PSAC teams any more. LHU is going to finish in a tie for 40th and Edinboro in a tie for 58th. Overall, disappointing tournament for the MAC as the conference has only 1 All-American.

Of course, PSU is headed for their 12th championship in the last 15 years. Quite a run.

[Fightingscot82]

10 years ago today, Edinboro finished #3 in Division 1 wrestling. Still an amazing feat.

[IUPNation]

Is it possible to start a political tread and keep those comments there? Then those of us that I would like read sports only, could skip that thread. Thanks

There are plenty of them in the actual Off Topuc forum. But one side is very quiet posting there right now. Too embarrassed.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

Is it possible to start a political tread and keep those comments there? Then those of us that I would like read sports only, could skip that thread. Thanks

I think there already is (called the OT, or something, and it is blocked from public view).

Yes, this bullsh!t is nauseating.

[TheROCK]

Is it possible to start a political tread and keep those comments there? Then those of us that I would like read sports only, could skip that thread. Thanks

[IUPNation]

Hordes of left-wing rioters attack state Capitols quite regularly (including Harrisburg last February and Nashville later the same year). How many of them have been gunned down by the cops? How many have been tracked down years after the fact by FBI no-knock raids after expansive use of facial recognition technology? Every J6 prosecution was political persecution of protesters on ideological grounds, plain and simple. If this happened in another country the US would cripple it with sanctions.

Your whataboutism is tedious.

[iupgroundhog]

It's just a matter of time.

I was talking with a co-worker recently who is about 32 years old. She is reasonably politically astute but when I mentioned the Kent State Massacre she was completely unaware of this. We could be headed here. And it could be at Kent State, Columbia, IUP, or Bloomsburg. Could be everywhere.

[Fightingscot82]

Hordes of left-wing rioters attack state Capitols quite regularly (including Harrisburg last February and Nashville later the same year). How many of them have been gunned down by the cops? How many have been tracked down years after the fact by FBI no-knock raids after expansive use of facial recognition technology? Every J6 prosecution was political persecution of protesters on ideological grounds, plain and simple. If this happened in another country the US would cripple it with sanctions.

One person was gunned down. She was violently attempting to break into a restricted area, part of an unruly mob, against the very clear verbal directives of a police officer who justifiably had his gun drawn. Spray bear spray at a police officer? You should be arrested. I don't care what your cause is or what your political persuasion is. It was a huge clusterf*ck and instead became the biggest example of groupthink. I do believe a lot of people went to the rally to support Trump. But the event was a clear target for fringe groups to incite and Trump's own words made it worse. If anyone, I place blame on the idiots Trump allowed in his circle like Roger Stone, who was proven to have been in contact with those fringe groups.

General McArthur gave himself a combat assignment and commanded a force with multiple tanks on US citizens in 1932 then burned their belongings. All for protesting that they be paid the financial payment for fighting World War I that had been the standard for fighting in US wars.