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[IUPNation]

I'm a boomer and never got into Pepsi, no matter how much they advertised. I've always been a Coca Cola guy. :)

If diabetes had a flavor, it would be Pepsi.

[crixus]

Boomers are the Pepsi Generation. Of course, you have to be a Boomer to know that.

I'm a boomer and never got into Pepsi, no matter how much they advertised. I've always been a Coca Cola guy. :)

[iupgroundhog]

Former Ohio State and PSU wr Julian Fleming in an ATV crash. His girlfriend died. He has serious injuries. Sad news.
https://www.pahomepage.com/news/1-wo...nty-atv-crash/

That is very sad. Gruesome.

[Bart]

Former Ohio State and PSU wr Julian Fleming in an ATV crash. His girlfriend died. He has serious injuries. Sad news.
https://www.pahomepage.com/news/1-wo...nty-atv-crash/

[IUP24]

I get all that, but this is what we have and I’m all for making it as good as it can be. Honestly, for the Group of 5 representative, I think getting the bye is the worst possible outcome. Boise wasn’t beating any of the four teams that won in the first round this year. But could they have beaten Indiana, Clemson, or SMU, especially if the game is in Boise? Quite possibly. Then you’re the team with a game under its belt going up against a potentially rusty opponent in round two. If a true underdog is ever going to make a real run in this playoff I’d bet that is the route they’d go.

I doubt a true underdog ever makes a run. But that’s an entirely different conversation.

Again, I don’t dislike the straight seeding. But this was simply the two conferences of consequence working together to eliminate anything seen as a potential advantage. They can sell it how they want, but that’s exactly what it was.

[Chuck Norris]

This is largely the first domino that just gives more power to the two conferences who believe they are the only ones who matter.

If you follow how they all agreed to this 2-3 years ago, those two leagues essentially have all of the voting power within the confines of how they amend the CFP. Make no mistake, the reason they forced this changed was because the powers that be saw the other conferences outside of their club having the opportunity to have some type of advantage over them.

I don’t dislike straight seeding. But I laugh at why they forced it. It’s not because the teams with a bye went 0-4. They would simply rather 2 Big Ten and 2 SEC teams just have those spots. Anything to keep pushing everybody else further out of the picture.

I get all that, but this is what we have and I’m all for making it as good as it can be. Honestly, for the Group of 5 representative, I think getting the bye is the worst possible outcome. Boise wasn’t beating any of the four teams that won in the first round this year. But could they have beaten Indiana, Clemson, or SMU, especially if the game is in Boise? Quite possibly. Then you’re the team with a game under its belt going up against a potentially rusty opponent in round two. If a true underdog is ever going to make a real run in this playoff I’d bet that is the route they’d go.

[IUP24]

A somewhat expected tweek to the playoff was approved yesterday. First round byes will no longer go just to conference champions. Teams will be seeded 1-12 based on rankings and the top 4 teams get the byes whether they are conference champions or not. Personally I think this makes more sense, though I will always believe the bye is not an advantage in this format. I certainly don’t expect those who get the bye to go 0-4 like they did last year, but it’s just too long of a break and will potentially be even longer if a team finishes in the top four but doesn’t play in a conference championship game.

This is largely the first domino that just gives more power to the two conferences who believe they are the only ones who matter.

If you follow how they all agreed to this 2-3 years ago, those two leagues essentially have all of the voting power within the confines of how they amend the CFP. Make no mistake, the reason they forced this changed was because the powers that be saw the other conferences outside of their club having the opportunity to have some type of advantage over them.

I don’t dislike straight seeding. But I laugh at why they forced it. It’s not because the teams with a bye went 0-4. They would simply rather 2 Big Ten and 2 SEC teams just have those spots. Anything to keep pushing everybody else further out of the picture.

[Chuck Norris]

A somewhat expected tweek to the playoff was approved yesterday. First round byes will no longer go just to conference champions. Teams will be seeded 1-12 based on rankings and the top 4 teams get the byes whether they are conference champions or not. Personally I think this makes more sense, though I will always believe the bye is not an advantage in this format. I certainly don’t expect those who get the bye to go 0-4 like they did last year, but it’s just too long of a break and will potentially be even longer if a team finishes in the top four but doesn’t play in a conference championship game.

[IUP24]

For the "just give the players the bag" crowd out there...

There is a basketball player from Tennessee that just graduated. He played four full seasons... 2021-2022 as a freshman (started much of the year). 2022-2023 as a sophomore. 2023-2024 as a junior. And 2024-2025 as a senior this past year. To establish precedent here... He was never injured. He never redshirted. He had no personal hardship requiring that he step away from basketball for an extended period of time. He played four full seasons of college basketball.

He is suing the NCAA, stating that not permitting him to play a fifth year of basketball (mind you, again, he played FOUR FULL SEASONS) is causing him to lose out on earning potential of 2-4 million dollars. He has zero case. None. He was never eligible for a fifth year. But I'm sure he'll win the case. The entire lawsuit is hilarious to read. It talks about how "diligent" of a student he was. Talks about "only having the ability to earn $500,000" during his senior season. I know the surrounding cast around so many of these players are bad news, but I'm firmly convinced that much of the chaos going on now is strictly the fault of the student athletes.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

They probably still wouldn’t win the Dixon Trophy.

🤣

Big Game James is going to open the season at No. 1 per many respected college football talking heads.

[iupgroundhog]

Every generation has ****ed up
Something..except Gen X. We are the cool
people. 😉

Boomers are the Pepsi Generation. Of course, you have to be a Boomer to know that.

[IUP24]

I think the portal is the biggest problem. I think the balance is you sign a contract with the school if they are paying you. Thus jumping around is crazy and are they even learning anything? Iwonder how many that jump schools ever actually graduate?

I don’t disagree, but the problems are directly related. The unregulated NIL caused the player movement. The NCAA eliminating nearly all restrictions on any transfers exacerbated that issue. The independent lawsuits filed in state courts by individual athletes and universities against the NCAA has eliminated any potential resistance.

If players lost one of these cases, then things would change (I think). The issue is that there is no legal precedent for any of these cases. So once one judge rules on something in a player’s favor, the next case with some similarities gets ruled and adjudicated the same because there is now a precedent. Many don’t know, but after the Vandy QB won his case for a 7th year of eligibility because he played JUCO football, others took the same route to sue the NCAA. I believe they all won.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

I think the portal is the biggest problem. I think the balance is you sign a contract with the school if they are paying you. Thus jumping around is crazy and are they even learning anything? Iwonder how many that jump schools ever actually graduate?

You should see how old some of these dudes are ... especially the Covid guys.

There were guys playing PSAC football and basketball last year pushing 26-27 years old. It's time to hang it up at that point.

[IUPNation]

I don't necessarily like or agree with all things going on in the world of collegiate sports. We're the same age. I don't have a problem with college athletes getting something, and never have really, but I have an overarching issue with how "off the rails" it has really gotten. I always supported some model where all athletes, of both genders, in all sports, and across all levels/divisions "got something." But I always wanted that to be fair and consistent across the board.

The argument about student athletes getting paid was always rooted in the idea of them never being able to hold a job due to the time commitment and required mandated (allowable) hours per week in season and out of season. It wasn't until very recently (within the last 10 years) that people started using the argument of the "business" of college athletics as being their talking point to support straight pay for play.

I do wonder how this would all look if 10-20 years ago, individuals would have had the foresight to see this on the horizon. The Ed O'Bannon case against EA Sports and the NCAA was really the first major shot across the bow that should have indicated changes would eventually be coming. If you would have given every student athlete 25,000 a semester long before any of this came to fruition, would that have solved it? I don't know. But it's worth asking that question.

I think the portal is the biggest problem. I think the balance is you sign a contract with the school if they are paying you. Thus jumping around is crazy and are they even learning anything? Iwonder how many that jump schools ever actually graduate?

[IUPNation]

Depends on your vantage point. I'm in the middle (mid 40's), both sides have a lot of valid points against the other, and neither cares to hear the other side.

Every generation has ****ed up
Something..except Gen X. We are the cool
people. 😉