OT: D1

[IUP24]

They got most of the slots. It was a terrible way to crown a title. This was the best year of top
level college foosball. Who is to say that if there 12 teams all these years the SEC would have dominated the titles?

Okay, so you have no other examples. Got it.

The four team playoff existed for 10 years. Only 2 times did the SEC have more than one team in. The B1G was provided that opportunity one time as well. All other years there was only one representative from each of the conferences in the field.

So I will ask again, how was the SEC “given preferential treatment?”

[IUPNation]

Basketball and football are fundamentally different sports. In terms of “opening up the field,” it’s not even an apples to apples comparison.

In what world was the SEC “given preferential treatment” in the four team playoff? Give me actual examples and real data points. I can start you off with one… Florida State was left out in favor of Alabama.

They got most of the slots. It was a terrible way to crown a title. This was the best year of top
level college foosball. Who is to say that if there 12 teams all these years the SEC would have dominated the titles?

[IUPNation]

I get it. You prefer an invitational tournament for the pleasure of seeing the helmets you prefer while watching at the holidays, regardless of what they did during the season, as we’ve previously established.

Why do we celebrate that Ohio State got a mulligan? Outside of Ohio State fans I cannot understand why people think it’s great that they got a do over.

But then they had to play a 4 game gauntlet. You cannot deny the took out 4 good teams.

We can’t sit here and say Slimey had a great run but bag on D1. Slimey didn’t play in the Stste Game..win the region and took the eventual champion to the 4th qtr on their home field.

The punishment is now you get a four game route instead of the bye.

[IUP24]

No other sport punishes teams for losing one game and tanking a season like college football did…

Why should March Madness open it up to so many but foosball can only be undefeated teams where schedules aren’t the same strength?

Inthink it worked well. It made conference title games important. It made the regular season more about jockeying for a playoff spot and seeding. It might force OOC games not to be so cupcakey.

Im not so sure The Overrsted Stste University will dominate. 3-4 game tournaments..anything can happen.

This also proved the SEC was given preferential treatment when it was at four teams and possibly better teams were left out,

Basketball and football are fundamentally different sports. In terms of “opening up the field,” it’s not even an apples to apples comparison.

In what world was the SEC “given preferential treatment” in the four team playoff? Give me actual examples and real data points. I can start you off with one… Florida State was left out in favor of Alabama.

[IUP24]

It was unique. But, that's over.

These teams can only play in the current system.

I much prefer this set-up. I didn't love all 12 teams or some of the seeds, but, baby steps.

I get it. You prefer an invitational tournament for the pleasure of seeing the helmets you prefer while watching at the holidays, regardless of what they did during the season, as we’ve previously established.

Why do we celebrate that Ohio State got a mulligan? Outside of Ohio State fans I cannot understand why people think it’s great that they got a do over.

[IUPNation]

I'm a fan of football. So I'll watch the games, and I agree that I enjoyed the tournament structure, but I cannot get past what this actually does to the regular season. We spent weeks debating whether Indiana and SMU belonged, or if Alabama or South Carolina should have been there. We exhausted conversations about where Boise State should get seeded. All the while, the two teams who factually had the worse two losses in the entire field were playing in the national championship game.

- Notre Dame lost at home to Northern Illinois
- Michigan lost at home to a 6 win Michigan team who they were favored to beat by nearly 4 touchdowns.

Neither loss mattered or had any relevance. Both teams had home games and reached the National Championship. At a fundamental level, I cannot get past that.

Josh Pate made a great statement last night in a social media post... "The only college football Cinderella you will ever get is Goliath as a lower seed."

No other sport punishes teams for losing one game and tanking a season like college football did…

Why should March Madness open it up to so many but foosball can only be undefeated teams where schedules aren’t the same strength?

Inthink it worked well. It made conference title games important. It made the regular season more about jockeying for a playoff spot and seeding. It might force OOC games not to be so cupcakey.

Im not so sure The Overrsted Stste University will dominate. 3-4 game tournaments..anything can happen.

This also proved the SEC was given preferential treatment when it was at four teams and possibly better teams were left out,

[IUPbigINDIANS]

I'm not denying that Ohio State had the best roster in the country. Not a single player in their 2-deep that is out of eligibility or declaring for the draft won't be in an NFL camp next summer. That said, it's a shame that what used to be massive upsets are now just learning moments for the big schools. I cannot fundamentally ever get past Ohio State and Notre Dame owning the two worst losses in the CFP field and being the teams playing in the final game.

People enjoy that teams don't get punished for a terrible loss during the course of the season. I'd argue that's what made college football unique and special.

It was unique. But, that's over.

These teams can only play in the current system.

I much prefer this set-up. I didn't love all 12 teams or some of the seeds, but, baby steps.

[IUP24]

The perfect part about it was the best team won.

OSU may not have been in early November, but it clearly was in late January.

Stuff changes in a freaking 6-month long season. Some teams get better. Some teams get worse.

I'm not denying that Ohio State had the best roster in the country. Not a single player in their 2-deep that is out of eligibility or declaring for the draft won't be in an NFL camp next summer. That said, it's a shame that what used to be massive upsets are now just learning moments for the big schools. I cannot fundamentally ever get past Ohio State and Notre Dame owning the two worst losses in the CFP field and being the teams playing in the final game.

People enjoy that teams don't get punished for a terrible loss during the course of the season. I'd argue that's what made college football unique and special.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

Outside of diehard college football junkies, and yes, fans of the two finalists, I think most people had college football fatigue. This is a sport that traditionally ended on New Year’s Day (and probably still should). With this format, I doubt there are many matchups that will excite the masses six weeks after the regular season ends. Maybe if you get two dominant, undefeated teams who actually make it through, but I don’t see that happening often, if ever.

Having said all that, I personally enjoyed the playoff. It wasn’t perfect, but it was something we never had before. It was something you could play on the old college football video games and only think about how cool it would be in real life.

The perfect part about it was the best team won.

OSU may not have been in early November, but it clearly was in late January.

Stuff changes in a freaking 6-month long season. Some teams get better. Some teams get worse.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

For those who haven’t seen the ACC is considering changing how they do conference championships; I can only assume this is to try and juice the SOS for their potential at large teams and to potentially protect the record of a regular season champ in the case of a paper tiger winning the league. From ESPN:

The first option is the dumbest thing I've heard yet. They can't call it a 'championship game' if the No. 1 seed isn't playing in it. They can bill it as The Pretend ACC Championship Game.

Does the winner have an on-field ceremony and get the second place trophy?

[TheBigCat2192]

When the proverbial line in the sand has been drawn, and the powers that be in the networks, B1G, and SEC are doing everything to separate their product, I give the ACC credit for attempting to aggressively help their brand (something they failed at during the original wave of this iteration of expansion) with this approach. Either conference championship model would be fine in my opinion.

For what it's worth, this is not the first time they have considered something like this. There was consideration prior to conference expansion (which eliminated the divisions) that they would create a "pod scheduling" model where teams would effectively be bunched into mini divisions of 4 teams. That structure would then be used to create an interconference playoff system amongst the pods. They discussed that a while back, but it never got any legs. Shortly after, the league had to expand.

I remember the “pod” proposal. Don’t think that ever got anywhere. I don’t blame them for changing how they pick their conference champion either; I’m mostly knocking them for not being subtle. It’s still less insane than the PAC-12 floating the idea of bringing back freshman ineligibility for basketball and football a few years ago. We are living in crazy times for college sports.

[IUP24]

For those who haven’t seen the ACC is considering changing how they do conference championships; I can only assume this is to try and juice the SOS for their potential at large teams and to potentially protect the record of a regular season champ in the case of a paper tiger winning the league. From ESPN:

When the proverbial line in the sand has been drawn, and the powers that be in the networks, B1G, and SEC are doing everything to separate their product, I give the ACC credit for attempting to aggressively help their brand (something they failed at during the original wave of this iteration of expansion) with this approach. Either conference championship model would be fine in my opinion.

For what it's worth, this is not the first time they have considered something like this. There was consideration prior to conference expansion (which eliminated the divisions) that they would create a "pod scheduling" model where teams would effectively be bunched into mini divisions of 4 teams. That structure would then be used to create an interconference playoff system amongst the pods. They discussed that a while back, but it never got any legs. Shortly after, the league had to expand.

[Fightingscot82]

For those who haven’t seen the ACC is considering changing how they do conference championships; I can only assume this is to try and juice the SOS for their potential at large teams and to potentially protect the record of a regular season champ in the case of a paper tiger winning the league. From ESPN:

The PSAC model is pretty good. Last regular season week is the conference championship. Regularly scheduled opponents left out play each other.

[TheBigCat2192]

For those who haven’t seen the ACC is considering changing how they do conference championships; I can only assume this is to try and juice the SOS for their potential at large teams and to potentially protect the record of a regular season champ in the case of a paper tiger winning the league. From ESPN:

Phillips said the ACC could consider giving its regular-season champion a bye, and have the teams that finish second or third in the league standings play in the ACC championship game.

He said another possibility is having the top 4 teams play on the final weekend of the regular season: first place versus fourth place, and second place vs. third place, with the winners playing the following weekend in the ACC championship game.

[Ram040506]

I would make the Saturday night the week before the NFL playoffs start synonymous with the CFP championship game. As massive as football is, kicking that game off at nearly 8 pm on a weeknight is dumb.

Didn't help that Inauguration was the same day and it was the finish of a holiday weekend for some traveling back.