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[IUPbigINDIANS]

Is it possible to start a political tread and keep those comments there? Then those of us that I would like read sports only, could skip that thread. Thanks

I think there already is (called the OT, or something, and it is blocked from public view).

Yes, this bullsh!t is nauseating.

[TheROCK]

Is it possible to start a political tread and keep those comments there? Then those of us that I would like read sports only, could skip that thread. Thanks

[IUPNation]

Hordes of left-wing rioters attack state Capitols quite regularly (including Harrisburg last February and Nashville later the same year). How many of them have been gunned down by the cops? How many have been tracked down years after the fact by FBI no-knock raids after expansive use of facial recognition technology? Every J6 prosecution was political persecution of protesters on ideological grounds, plain and simple. If this happened in another country the US would cripple it with sanctions.

Your whataboutism is tedious.

[iupgroundhog]

It's just a matter of time.

I was talking with a co-worker recently who is about 32 years old. She is reasonably politically astute but when I mentioned the Kent State Massacre she was completely unaware of this. We could be headed here. And it could be at Kent State, Columbia, IUP, or Bloomsburg. Could be everywhere.

[Fightingscot82]

Hordes of left-wing rioters attack state Capitols quite regularly (including Harrisburg last February and Nashville later the same year). How many of them have been gunned down by the cops? How many have been tracked down years after the fact by FBI no-knock raids after expansive use of facial recognition technology? Every J6 prosecution was political persecution of protesters on ideological grounds, plain and simple. If this happened in another country the US would cripple it with sanctions.

One person was gunned down. She was violently attempting to break into a restricted area, part of an unruly mob, against the very clear verbal directives of a police officer who justifiably had his gun drawn. Spray bear spray at a police officer? You should be arrested. I don't care what your cause is or what your political persuasion is. It was a huge clusterf*ck and instead became the biggest example of groupthink. I do believe a lot of people went to the rally to support Trump. But the event was a clear target for fringe groups to incite and Trump's own words made it worse. If anyone, I place blame on the idiots Trump allowed in his circle like Roger Stone, who was proven to have been in contact with those fringe groups.

General McArthur gave himself a combat assignment and commanded a force with multiple tanks on US citizens in 1932 then burned their belongings. All for protesting that they be paid the financial payment for fighting World War I that had been the standard for fighting in US wars.

[TheBigCat2192]

Much like most other things with the Trump presidencies, the parallels to past US history are too common. Look up the Bonus Army of 1932 and how the US government responded. The whole day is regrettable from all angles, but the crowd totally had a FAFO moment. When Congress is in active session, the building is closed to the public. When police give folks a directive in an active incident, we're to adhere without question (or does that only apply to Black people pulled over?). The one lady shot clearly got what was coming to her. Police officer in active incident with gun drawn gave her an ultimatum directive and she did not comply. If there was evidence that protesters assaulted police, vandalized the building, and entered restricted areas like the Speaker's office should be prosecuted as usual. If they merely followed the crowd beyond the barricades or into the building, I'm okay with a pardon.

Hordes of left-wing rioters attack state Capitols quite regularly (including Harrisburg last February and Nashville later the same year). How many of them have been gunned down by the cops? How many have been tracked down years after the fact by FBI no-knock raids after expansive use of facial recognition technology? Every J6 prosecution was political persecution of protesters on ideological grounds, plain and simple. If this happened in another country the US would cripple it with sanctions.

[Fightingscot82]

The idea that the protest was violent or “an insurrection” is a spurious claim that has been amplified by the liberal media despite having minimal truth to it in a desperate attempt to carry the limping Biden and Harris campaigns over the finish line. See, I can play this game too. The only person who died was an unarmed woman shot by a Capitol police officer behind a barricade. Some “insurrection.”

Much like most other things with the Trump presidencies, the parallels to past US history are too common. Look up the Bonus Army of 1932 and how the US government responded. The whole day is regrettable from all angles, but the crowd totally had a FAFO moment. When Congress is in active session, the building is closed to the public. When police give folks a directive in an active incident, we're to adhere without question (or does that only apply to Black people pulled over?). The one lady shot clearly got what was coming to her. Police officer in active incident with gun drawn gave her an ultimatum directive and she did not comply. If there was evidence that protesters assaulted police, vandalized the building, and entered restricted areas like the Speaker's office should be prosecuted as usual. If they merely followed the crowd beyond the barricades or into the building, I'm okay with a pardon.

[IUPNation]

The idea that the protest was violent or “an insurrection” is a spurious claim that has been amplified by the liberal media despite having minimal truth to it in a desperate attempt to carry the limping Biden and Harris campaigns over the finish line. See, I can play this game too. The only person who died was an unarmed woman shot by a Capitol police officer behind a barricade. Some “insurrection.”

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[TheBigCat2192]

This is a completely spurious claim that has been amplified by conservative media despite having minimal truth in it. The protestors outside the Capital were certainly not non-violent, there is ample video and photographic evidence if you care about that sort of thing.

Now can we get back to college sports for the love of god.

The idea that the protest was violent or “an insurrection” is a spurious claim that has been amplified by the liberal media despite having minimal truth to it in a desperate attempt to carry the limping Biden and Harris campaigns over the finish line. See, I can play this game too. The only person who died was an unarmed woman shot by a Capitol police officer behind a barricade. Some “insurrection.”

[EastStroud13]

After spending my whole life listening to Democrat politicians
and their supporters lie about what is and isn’t protected by the First Amendment I’m not really interested in your opinion on the matter. The Biden regime locked up thousands of Americans for peacefully protesting outside the Capitol and abortion clinics. You don’t care about freedom of speech, you just care that the power of government is actually swinging against you for once.

This is a completely spurious claim that has been amplified by conservative media despite having minimal truth in it. The protestors outside the Capital were certainly not non-violent, there is ample video and photographic evidence if you care about that sort of thing.

Now can we get back to college sports for the love of god.

[IUPNation]

After spending my whole life listening to Democrat politicians
and their supporters lie about what is and isn’t protected by the First Amendment I’m not really interested in your opinion on the matter. The Biden regime locked up thousands of Americans for peacefully protesting outside the Capitol and abortion clinics. You don’t care about freedom of speech, you just care that the power of government is actually swinging against you for once.

That was an insurrection.

[iupgroundhog]

After spending my whole life listening to Democrat politicians
and their supporters lie about what is and isn’t protected by the First Amendment I’m not really interested in your opinion on the matter. The Biden regime locked up thousands of Americans for peacefully protesting outside the Capitol and abortion clinics. You don’t care about freedom of speech, you just care that the power of government is actually swinging against you for once.

That's totally loony.

[TheBigCat2192]

He is protected by the Constitution.

After spending my whole life listening to Democrat politicians
and their supporters lie about what is and isn’t protected by the First Amendment I’m not really interested in your opinion on the matter. The Biden regime locked up thousands of Americans for peacefully protesting outside the Capitol and abortion clinics. You don’t care about freedom of speech, you just care that the power of government is actually swinging against you for once.

[Fightingscot82]

This guy is a guest on a student visa, not a citizen, so he doesn’t enjoy the full protection of the First Amendment. How does it make America better to bring someone here and then let him loose to fight an ancient blood feud from his homeland on our campuses and disrupt the lives of real students?

He was no longer a student and had a green card - he was permitted to stay permanently and be eligible to apply for citizenship. His rights fall into a gray area that will have to be fought in courts. From one perspective, his green card could be revoked for severe criminal conduct, but right now no crimes specific to him have been shared. However, many, many, many SCOTUS rulings have said non-citizens are afforded the same civil and due process rights as citizens. He must have a hearing before he can be expelled. I see both sides to the arguments and it really comes down to whether judges will want to defy populist MAGA sentiment. The Constitution isn't just rules for citizens - its the rulebook for how government has to function, whether any of us likes it or not.

[iupgroundhog]

This guy is a guest on a student visa, not a citizen, so he doesn’t enjoy the full protection of the First Amendment. How does it make America better to bring someone here and then let him loose to fight an ancient blood feud from his homeland on our campuses and disrupt the lives of real students?

He is protected by the Constitution.