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  • IUP24
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    Originally posted by Fightingscot82 View Post
    With you 100%. I stand by my assertion that the silent majority of casual college football fans want Cinderella stories. They just don't want to be told what to think - that's the difference between the years of Boise State, TCU, and BYU knocking on the door and UCF claiming national championships. The solution is that every FBS conference champion gets in. If the MAC gets destroyed every year, they can figure out how to get better or opt out for bowl games nobody wants to watch. The upstart G5 coach might play against the school looking to hire him away - that's great drama. The one time out of five that South Florida or Georgia Tech knocks off Alabama? Great drama. It makes heads explode and respect the game played on the field - not the feelings of supremacy by media idiots or Vegas.
    What I dislike about the expansion of the field is that it puts teams further and further and further away from actually having a real chance.

    TCU knocked off Michigan and was in the national championship game. Sure, they got plastered by Georgia the next week. But they were there. They had a shot. Now, TCU has to knock off Michigan. Then they need to beat Alabama. Then they need to beat Notre Dame. And then they need to beat Ohio State. The expansion is about money, sure. But it's also to mostly ensure that everyone who are the casual viewers can feel warm and fuzzy that they will always be able to watch two historical brands in the national championship game.

    That's a different conversation altogether, but yeah, I'm with you with your assessment.

    I love college football. I could not care less about what logo is on their helmet. If you don't want to watch Tulane-Georgia as background noise, then don't. That's everybody's choice to make.

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  • Chuck Norris
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    Originally posted by IUP24 View Post
    Some CBS Sports analyst (Todd Fuhrman - I hadn't ever heard of him either) started the elitist crying a little early this year. He's realizing that some of the beauty brands won't make the dance and teams like Georgia Tech, Vandy, and South Florida are crashing the party.

    Boo freaking hoo.

    I'm sorry if you aren't a big enough football fan to want to watch Georgia Tech and South Florida in a College Football Playoff game. If you don't like it, don't watch. It's that simple. It's mind boggling how many people have lost the fundamental understanding of the difference between college football and the NFL. Fans should not care about the tv ratings. You should either choose to watch football or not. I don't care if you don't get to see the helmets or logos you know and recognize in the Playoff. Don't watch if you don't like it.

    You still need to play the games to get to the CFP. And I'm sorry... There's not a single person on this message board that can tell me that they'd be more interested in watching a Michigan team that has zero identity square up against a Texas team that can't complete a pass or score points. If you are a COLLEGE FOOTBALL FAN and if you have watched the regular season, Georgia Tech and South Florida is an infinitely better and more interesting matchup to watch.
    I’ll tune in no matter who is playing. I’ll probably tune out quickly if the game is not competitive, but college football is just more prone to blowouts whether it’s two SEC powers or Ohio State vs an FBS school. I want the Cinderella to get a shot, I like seeing the less prominent P4 teams rise up.

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  • Fightingscot82
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    Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post

    I couldn't name the last (5) D1 champions if my life depended on it. I'd guess that would be similar for about 95% of college football casual fans.

    Although I did attend SMU at PSU in the playoffs last year. It was most boring game I've ever seen in person. It was Varsity vs JV in 20 degrees and cost me about $1k.
    That's your own damn fault lol. But then again, the same thing happens in March Madness. There's always that 1 in 5 chance Penn State chokes.

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  • IUPbigINDIANS
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    Originally posted by Fightingscot82 View Post
    With you 100%. I stand by my assertion that the silent majority of casual college football fans want Cinderella stories. They just don't want to be told what to think - that's the difference between the years of Boise State, TCU, and BYU knocking on the door and UCF claiming national championships. The solution is that every FBS conference champion gets in. If the MAC gets destroyed every year, they can figure out how to get better or opt out for bowl games nobody wants to watch. The upstart G5 coach might play against the school looking to hire him away - that's great drama. The one time out of five that South Florida or Georgia Tech knocks off Alabama? Great drama. It makes heads explode and respect the game played on the field - not the feelings of supremacy by media idiots or Vegas.
    I couldn't name the last (5) D1 champions if my life depended on it. I'd guess that would be similar for about 95% of college football casual fans.

    Although I did attend SMU at PSU in the playoffs last year. It was most boring game I've ever seen in person. It was Varsity vs JV in 20 degrees and cost me about $1k.

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  • Fightingscot82
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    With you 100%. I stand by my assertion that the silent majority of casual college football fans want Cinderella stories. They just don't want to be told what to think - that's the difference between the years of Boise State, TCU, and BYU knocking on the door and UCF claiming national championships. The solution is that every FBS conference champion gets in. If the MAC gets destroyed every year, they can figure out how to get better or opt out for bowl games nobody wants to watch. The upstart G5 coach might play against the school looking to hire him away - that's great drama. The one time out of five that South Florida or Georgia Tech knocks off Alabama? Great drama. It makes heads explode and respect the game played on the field - not the feelings of supremacy by media idiots or Vegas.

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  • IUP24
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    Some CBS Sports analyst (Todd Fuhrman - I hadn't ever heard of him either) started the elitist crying a little early this year. He's realizing that some of the beauty brands won't make the dance and teams like Georgia Tech, Vandy, and South Florida are crashing the party.

    Boo freaking hoo.

    I'm sorry if you aren't a big enough football fan to want to watch Georgia Tech and South Florida in a College Football Playoff game. If you don't like it, don't watch. It's that simple. It's mind boggling how many people have lost the fundamental understanding of the difference between college football and the NFL. Fans should not care about the tv ratings. You should either choose to watch football or not. I don't care if you don't get to see the helmets or logos you know and recognize in the Playoff. Don't watch if you don't like it.

    You still need to play the games to get to the CFP. And I'm sorry... There's not a single person on this message board that can tell me that they'd be more interested in watching a Michigan team that has zero identity square up against a Texas team that can't complete a pass or score points. If you are a COLLEGE FOOTBALL FAN and if you have watched the regular season, Georgia Tech and South Florida is an infinitely better and more interesting matchup to watch.

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  • TheBigCat2192
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    Originally posted by Ship69 View Post

    The days of Stanford football glory are probably past. The current D1 climate does not set up well for them, and being shunted into the ACC, which is even more ridiculous geographically than the B1G, is not going to help.
    My point isn’t that they’re a glamor job but that being a head coach at a P5 school is still a step up compared to being a coordinator or coaching at a G5 or FCS school. They might not attract a name as big as, say, Franklin but there are going to be people who want that job.

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  • Fightingscot82
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    Originally posted by Ship69 View Post

    The days of Stanford football glory are probably past. The current D1 climate does not set up well for them, and being shunted into the ACC, which is even more ridiculous geographically than the B1G, is not going to help.
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    I could see them going either way. Pulling back from FBS but there isn't a conference of strong academic schools on the west coast anymore. Its really stupid that they blew up the Pac 12. But if Stanford loses out on the future of federal research, I can see them going all in on athletics to generate additional revenue. They're an expensive school to run.

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  • Ship69
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    Originally posted by TheBigCat2192 View Post
    Stanford is also looking for a permanent head coach; I forgot about them. They’re currently being interim coached by Frank Reich, a career NFL guy who’s 63, so probably not a candidate to stay long-term.
    The days of Stanford football glory are probably past. The current D1 climate does not set up well for them, and being shunted into the ACC, which is even more ridiculous geographically than the B1G, is not going to help.

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  • TheBigCat2192
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    Stanford is also looking for a permanent head coach; I forgot about them. They’re currently being interim coached by Frank Reich, a career NFL guy who’s 63, so probably not a candidate to stay long-term.

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  • Ram040506
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    Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post

    Norvell and Fickell are on the Green Mile.

    I'll actually be surprised if either coaches this weekend.
    I think Norvell survives. They currently sit at 3-4, with how heavy that buyout is (54 million for him, and 18 mill for the assistants) if they can get to 6-6, I could see him coming back. FSU doesn't have the cash that some of those other blue bloods have.

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  • IUPbigINDIANS
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    Originally posted by TheBigCat2192 View Post

    It’s going to be a decent year (at least numerically) for guys looking to make the jump from coordinator or G5 head coach to P5 head coach or those looking to get back into the HC gig (ala Big Game James). Florida, Oklahoma State, UCLA, PSU, Virginia Tech, and Arkansas are already open, barring the choice of making their interim coaches permanent. FSU & Wisconsin are at least thinking about separating. Add in that Stoops the younger may be on the hot seat at Kentucky, Bill O’Brien is stinking up the joint at BC, UNC is in a TMZ marriage that I have to imagine they’d love to find a way out of, and there are going to be openings.

    UNC is a great reality show. I can't imagine being an actual fan. You can't make that story up.



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  • TheBigCat2192
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    Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post

    Norvell and Fickell are on the Green Mile.

    I'll actually be surprised if either coaches this weekend.
    It’s going to be a decent year (at least numerically) for guys looking to make the jump from coordinator or G5 head coach to P5 head coach or those looking to get back into the HC gig (ala Big Game James). Florida, Oklahoma State, UCLA, PSU, Virginia Tech, and Arkansas are already open, barring the choice of making their interim coaches permanent. FSU & Wisconsin are at least thinking about separating. Add in that Stoops the younger may be on the hot seat at Kentucky, Bill O’Brien is stinking up the joint at BC, UNC is in a TMZ marriage that I have to imagine they’d love to find a way out of, and there are going to be openings.

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  • IUPbigINDIANS
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    Originally posted by TheBigCat2192 View Post
    The coaching carousel is turning with a lot of the usual AD speak around a few guys whose jobs were considered in jeopardy recently. For those who haven’t seen Napier is out at Florida, FSU is going to make a decision on Norvell after the season, and the AD at Wisconsin is publicly backing Fickell but also saying the school may need a “funding push” to remain competitive. Given how often votes of confidence or “public backing” tends to precede “surprise firings” I wonder what the odds are that all three jobs will be open this off-season.
    Norvell and Fickell are on the Green Mile.

    I'll actually be surprised if either coaches this weekend.

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  • TheBigCat2192
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    The coaching carousel is turning with a lot of the usual AD speak around a few guys whose jobs were considered in jeopardy recently. For those who haven’t seen Napier is out at Florida, FSU is going to make a decision on Norvell after the season, and the AD at Wisconsin is publicly backing Fickell but also saying the school may need a “funding push” to remain competitive. Given how often votes of confidence or “public backing” tends to precede “surprise firings” I wonder what the odds are that all three jobs will be open this off-season.

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