THE IUP Football Thread

[IUPbigINDIANS]

Agree w/ this. Sorry but they aren't that impressive. Deyjure is the real deal. Houser is ok but not great. Younger the same. Try the others. Q is certainly not the answer and he gets hurt everytime he's at RB because he's not one so then we lose him at slot and return-just dumb in my opinion. Anyone can run on Stinky teams. How about pass to our TE's once in a while. I was at the game also and a lot of viewers who I think know football pretty well all said we are so predictable.

Well, they did throw to Cole Laney three times Saturday -- and all three were dropped. The last one, he got blasted. But, the first two hit his hands and he dropped both. At one point I thought Grant Smith was going to be a big-time player in the passing game. That never happened. He's become essentially just a blocking TE.

They are predictable. It's driven other teams crazy that they pretty much know what's coming and still can't stop it. That's a luxury Mak Sexton, Duane Brown and Hilton Ridley have afforded IUP. Like I said earlier, IUP's defense got shredded Saturday but so did Gannon's.

I completely agree regarding the use of Qashah Carter. He should be drastically more involved in the offense -- i.e. Allen Wright role from a couple years ago. He has to get the ball in space to be effective. When his only involvement is a jet sweep and he gets crushed by some big DL (and then has to leave the game) ... I mean, how many weeks do we have to see the same thing with his use? He should be a dynamic tool to go along with Brown and Ridley. They both draw so much attention he should be the small burner that gets lost in the shuffle on the field. It just hasn't happened.

As discussed yesterday a bit, the running game is just non-existent. They tend to call a huge percentage directly up the middle. Jerome Bettis isn't carrying the ball. These are all 185-pound (if even) backs. If the goal is just to get two yards a carry on what seems 95 percent of the attempts ... well, it's working.

As for Dayjure Stewart, he does strike fear in to opponents. He's powerful and also has break-away speed. The two games he's missed, IUP nearly lost at East Stroudsburg and then did lose at Gannon. Probably not a coincidence. One week off the team was probably adequate punishment.

But, again here, a long rant about the offense. They did score 36 points Saturday. They weren't the problem. The defense blew chunks. Somebody else mentioned they held SRU to 12 points. Yeah, they did. It was also in a windy, cold monsoon. Play that game again on a dry field. You may not want to see what happens.

People are saying the offense is predictable. OCs have to be licking their chops looking at the defense. It gets masked much of the season due to so many easy games against undermanned opponents. Could anybody on here -- honestly -- say they'd want to see IUP play Shepherd or SRU on a dry field? The thought of it is giving me nightmares.

There's a ton of talented players on the defensive side. But, collectively, that unit looked lost up in Erie. I mean, 2 a.m. on a dark, stormy highway lost. I think we have two defensive coordinators now. You know what they say about having two QBs.

[WarriorVoice]

Probably not since Gannon plays on a practice field..

Glass houses...

[IUPNation]

Was there a scoreboard message involved??

Probably not since Gannon plays on a practice field..

[OldSchool IUP]

Looking at team stats ... 3 of the past 4 games IUP has rushed for 98 yards or less (past two games under 60 yards).

Kicking in doors obviously didn't help last week.

But, my question is why can't IUP run the ball when it has what is thought to be a very strong OL and a lethal aerial attack (which should soften the run defense).

Take away the Mercyhurst game (when they 100% sold out on the pass) and Edinboro (not good defense) and IUP's season rushing numbers pretty much stink.

So:

* Are the RBs overrated?
* Is the 'run up the middle' for 2 yards all day the problem? Don't get me started on the jet sweeps that haven't worked all year.
* Is the OL the issue?
* Combination of the three?

They will luck out and (very oddly) have 70 degrees and sunny this weekend.

But, the inability to run seems to be a major concern heading in to November. This sun isn't going to last forever.

It's just very odd to me why a team with a rocket-arm QB and two elite WRs can't run the ball.

Gannon's RBs had swagger and confidence. I don't see that with IUP's RBs.

Agree w/ this. Sorry but they aren't that impressive. Deyjure is the real deal. Houser is ok but not great. Younger the same. Try the others. Q is certainly not the answer and he gets hurt everytime he's at RB because he's not one so then we lose him at slot and return-just dumb in my opinion. Anyone can run on Stinky teams. How about pass to our TE's once in a while. I was at the game also and a lot of viewers who I think know football pretty well all said we are so predictable.

[SRU 88]

[QUOTE=iupgroundhog;n710811]

That's a good question. There's something to be said for watching the game on the internet as opposed to live. Houser has to get some open space to make decent gains as opposed to Stewart who does have the ability to run over people. In the Gannon game, on a lot of plays it sure looked like Houser had a lot of green in front of him but he doesn't seem to get to the hole quick enough and Gannon's defense, DL and LB's, would catch up to him. Younger seems like a cross between Stewart and Houser. I'd put Younger even with Houser right now.

That said, I think they will run all over Clarion this week.


Don't be so sure, Grover threw for over 400 yds. WR Sheets had over 200 yds receiving

Clarion dared ROCK to pass by loading box to shut down run. Brown might get 300 yds receiving

[iupgroundhog]

Looking at team stats ... 3 of the past 4 games IUP has rushed for 98 yards or less (past two games under 60 yards).

Kicking in doors obviously didn't help last week.

But, my question is why can't IUP run the ball when it has what is thought to be a very strong OL and a lethal aerial attack (which should soften the run defense).

Take away the Mercyhurst game (when they 100% sold out on the pass) and Edinboro (not good defense) and IUP's season rushing numbers pretty much stink.

So:

* Are the RBs overrated?
* Is the 'run up the middle' for 2 yards all day the problem? Don't get me started on the jet sweeps that haven't worked all year.
* Is the OL the issue?
* Combination of the three?

They will luck out and (very oddly) have 70 degrees and sunny this weekend.

But, the inability to run seems to be a major concern heading in to November. This sun isn't going to last forever.

It's just very odd to me why a team with a rocket-arm QB and two elite WRs can't run the ball.

Gannon's RBs had swagger and confidence. I don't see that with IUP's RBs.

That's a good question. There's something to be said for watching the game on the internet as opposed to live. Houser has to get some open space to make decent gains as opposed to Stewart who does have the ability to run over people. In the Gannon game, on a lot of plays it sure looked like Houser had a lot of green in front of him but he doesn't seem to get to the hole quick enough and Gannon's defense, DL and LB's, would catch up to him. Younger seems like a cross between Stewart and Houser. I'd put Younger even with Houser right now. That said, I think they will run all over Clarion this week.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

Looking at team stats ... 3 of the past 4 games IUP has rushed for 98 yards or less (past two games under 60 yards).

Kicking in doors obviously didn't help last week.

But, my question is why can't IUP run the ball when it has what is thought to be a very strong OL and a lethal aerial attack (which should soften the run defense).

Take away the Mercyhurst game (when they 100% sold out on the pass) and Edinboro (not good defense) and IUP's season rushing numbers pretty much stink.

So:

* Are the RBs overrated?
* Is the 'run up the middle' for 2 yards all day the problem? Don't get me started on the jet sweeps that haven't worked all year.
* Is the OL the issue?
* Combination of the three?

They will luck out and (very oddly) have 70 degrees and sunny this weekend.

But, the inability to run seems to be a major concern heading in to November. This sun isn't going to last forever.

It's just very odd to me why a team with a rocket-arm QB and two elite WRs can't run the ball.

Gannon's RBs had swagger and confidence. I don't see that with IUP's RBs.

[iupgroundhog]

You're talking serious ball there.

I'm sure from the GU perspective there were bad calls, too.

The main two I recall was the roughing the passer on IUP. It was a real late flag.

Gannon also got one catch ruled a catch that appeared to skip. The WR even acted like it skipped. Two big calls.

Hitting the punter ... Ray Charles saw that one.

I'm not a ref blamer. Gannon's QB is why IUP lost.

That said, I do think they win if not for hitting the punter.

There were 2 plays. The roughing the kicker and later recovering the blocked FG at the 1. What was he doing? Then after picking up the ball it looked like he backed into the endzone. To try to make it a touchback? I have no idea. The Gannon players were signaling for a Safety and it looked like it might be a Safety. IUP got the ball on the 1, Gannon picked off a pass and it was all over.

If somebody can shed some light on what happened on the blocked FG and why it happened I'd like to hear it.

No matter how you slice it it was a close game but those 2 plays killed IUP. IUP should have won. On the other hand, the tight game situation can make players make bad plays.

If there is a silver lining there is an old adage about losing making you better. I hope so.

[Fightingscot82]

Actually, the official in question for the weekend worked the Gannon-Boro game too apparently. So, know we know how Gannon beat Edinboro. Obviously the commisioner hates boro from the gannon boro fights over the years....blah blah blah. JK.


Watch the Gannon-IUP game he threw one flag. It was on GANNON. Took a 15 yd run by Blanks that put Gannon into redzone off the board. It was a 15 yd crackback block. And it was a ticky tack call. I can see what it looked like live but it looked like on video the OL barely touched the IUP guy if not missed him entirely.

Also, if anyone wanted to screw IUP.. he was right there for the blocked FG recovery at the inch line with 3 minutes to go. Call a safety there and it goes from a 7 pt gannon lead and IUP ball to a 9 pt gannon lead and the ball back to gannon. Game over.

Gannon was seemingly called for way more penalties watching the game. Box score says 8 gannon to 7 for IUP but it seemed like much more for gannon. Maybe they were declined. I'd be curious to go through the play by play and count.

Your insight is always detailed - love it.

I don't want to say IUP completely overlooked Gannon like a typical trap game but it does seem like they underestimated them. Its been well covered on here that Gannon's QB play has been excellent plus they have a two-headed RB monster. Blanks has been banged up this year (assuming from his disappearances) but the guy filling in has done just as well. They're also very well coached. Raeburn isn't some slouch. If I counted correctly, he's got the most head coach experience by far in the PSAC West.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

Actually, the official in question for the weekend worked the Gannon-Boro game too apparently. So, know we know how Gannon beat Edinboro. Obviously the commisioner hates boro from the gannon boro fights over the years....blah blah blah. JK.


Watch the Gannon-IUP game he threw one flag. It was on GANNON. Took a 15 yd run by Blanks that put Gannon into redzone off the board. It was a 15 yd crackback block. And it was a ticky tack call. I can see what it looked like live but it looked like on video the OL barely touched the IUP guy if not missed him entirely.

Also, if anyone wanted to screw IUP.. he was right there for the blocked FG recovery at the inch line with 3 minutes to go. Call a safety there and it goes from a 7 pt gannon lead and IUP ball to a 9 pt gannon lead and the ball back to gannon. Game over.

Gannon was seemingly called for way more penalties watching the game. Box score says 8 gannon to 7 for IUP but it seemed like much more for gannon. Maybe they were declined. I'd be curious to go through the play by play and count.

You're talking serious ball there.

I'm sure from the GU perspective there were bad calls, too.

The main two I recall was the roughing the passer on IUP. It was a real late flag.

Gannon also got one catch ruled a catch that appeared to skip. The WR even acted like it skipped. Two big calls.

Hitting the punter ... Ray Charles saw that one.

I'm not a ref blamer. Gannon's QB is why IUP lost.

That said, I do think they win if not for hitting the punter.

[EyeoftheHawk]

They should be all over that kid.

The kid is a DII player in my opinion. He has good numbers and Indiana can make kids look better than they are so there’s that. I don’t see DI speed there. He’s a very good back, but not any better than the Robinson kid from Blairsville about 8 years ago. Very similar backs. Robinson ended up in DII. It didn’t help that he had a serious knee injury in his last high school game.

[IUPalum]

LOL I love this. I can't wait for the you don't know BALL response!

FACT!!!

[Ram Tough]

LOL I love this. I can't wait for the you don't know BALL response!

Bold of you to think that he can read.

[Ram Tough]

That’s the problem with you, you know I am right but your hillbilly ass can’t admit it! You see I would invite you to my tailgate when your boys are in town for the state game but, I won’t be serving natty light so you wouldn’t want to come.

Only straight up whiskey from my friend's distillery. Now, the adults are talking, Sybil.

[Ram040506]

Actually, the official in question for the weekend worked the Gannon-Boro game too apparently. So, know we know how Gannon beat Edinboro. Obviously the commisioner hates boro from the gannon boro fights over the years....blah blah blah. JK.


Watch the Gannon-IUP game he threw one flag. It was on GANNON. Took a 15 yd run by Blanks that put Gannon into redzone off the board. It was a 15 yd crackback block. And it was a ticky tack call. I can see what it looked like live but it looked like on video the OL barely touched the IUP guy if not missed him entirely.

Also, if anyone wanted to screw IUP.. he was right there for the blocked FG recovery at the inch line with 3 minutes to go. Call a safety there and it goes from a 7 pt gannon lead and IUP ball to a 9 pt gannon lead and the ball back to gannon. Game over.

Gannon was seemingly called for way more penalties watching the game. Box score says 8 gannon to 7 for IUP but it seemed like much more for gannon. Maybe they were declined. I'd be curious to go through the play by play and count.

LOL I love this. I can't wait for the you don't know BALL response!