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  • WT_TKW
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    Originally posted by Turbonium View Post

    Did you look at the difference in rushing and see that Western had no choice but to throw it? Or the fact that Western was chasing the game the entire way? Did you watch the game to see their secondary get bullied? I watched several Western games, not sure why you're arguing based on a box score but it's very easy to see that their secondary was exposed by anyone that could give the QB a bit of time and had weapons to throw the ball to down the field.

    I wouldn't say their playoff opponents exactly had explosive offenses to take advantage of this weakness, would you? Bemidji had 31 passing yards against Angelo the week before. Of course the Western secondary did better against them. Matchups matter.
    No, I find up to 1 D2 game per week to be sufficient though sometimes I'll watch plaoff games. I'm really hoping to see Slippery Rock versus Kutztown though. What do you think of their secondaries?

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  • Turbonium
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    Originally posted by WT_TKW View Post

    I looked at those games. Yes they gave up a lot of yards but against Pueblo there was only a difference of 30 yards passing between the 2 teams.

    Look at the playoff games. The secondary did well in those.
    Did you look at the difference in rushing and see that Western had no choice but to throw it? Or the fact that Western was chasing the game the entire way? Did you watch the game to see their secondary get bullied? I watched several Western games, not sure why you're arguing based on a box score but it's very easy to see that their secondary was exposed by anyone that could give the QB a bit of time and had weapons to throw the ball to down the field.

    I wouldn't say their playoff opponents exactly had explosive offenses to take advantage of this weakness, would you? Bemidji had 31 passing yards against Angelo the week before. Of course the Western secondary did better against them. Matchups matter.

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  • WT_TKW
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    Originally posted by Turbonium View Post

    Yeah, I'm well aware of how their season went. Their secondary was a huge weakness that was covered up by a front 7 and scheme that most teams didn't handle very well. Look at what Midwestern and Pueblo did to them through the air, Pueblo QB was 34/46 for 435 and 5 TDs.
    I looked at those games. Yes they gave up a lot of yards but against Pueblo there was only a difference of 30 yards passing between the 2 teams.

    Look at the playoff games. The secondary did well in those.

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  • WT_TKW
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    Originally posted by BuffaloChip View Post
    WT receivers dropped 3 passes that could have made a big difference. One contested at the goal line. Another less contested inside the 5. And a third completely open that Martinez threw on the numbers to a back shoulder at the 5. Also he juuust overthrew a wide open post pattern that would have moved the chains from the 20 to the 20. I expect the offense to get better and better. They just need reps. Also 3 or 4 more transfers need to either get completely healthy or get up to speed with the scheme.

    Western's Drew Nash was an experienced and talented QB. Every time WT had a play corralled it seemed like Nash had one more option and he found it. I thought the DL had some good push at times. After several years of stellar LB play, Buffs young LBs struggled at times.

    Despite the loss we had a nice trip to Gunnison, Durango, and Santa Fe.

    I'm hedging my bets by going to basketball practice in 30 minutes. Ha!
    The passing game looked good and should get even better. I would like to see a consistent running game. I think the defense will continue to be a problem. Last season I mentioned the team looked like it practiced once a week. That's not the case this year.

    The home side of the stadium looked inviting. Everyone seemed to be having a good time. Were you affected by the altitude?

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  • BuffaloChip
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    WT receivers dropped 3 passes that could have made a big difference. One contested at the goal line. Another less contested inside the 5. And a third completely open that Martinez threw on the numbers to a back shoulder at the 5. Also he juuust overthrew a wide open post pattern that would have moved the chains from the 20 to the 20. I expect the offense to get better and better. They just need reps. Also 3 or 4 more transfers need to either get completely healthy or get up to speed with the scheme.

    Western's Drew Nash was an experienced and talented QB. Every time WT had a play corralled it seemed like Nash had one more option and he found it. I thought the DL had some good push at times. After several years of stellar LB play, Buffs young LBs struggled at times.

    Despite the loss we had a nice trip to Gunnison, Durango, and Santa Fe.

    I'm hedging my bets by going to basketball practice in 30 minutes. Ha!

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  • Turbonium
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    Originally posted by WT_TKW View Post

    It couldn't have been that bad. They lost only 1 regular season game, defeated CWU in the playoffs beore losing to Bemidji by 1 on a long fumble recovery for a TD.
    Yeah, I'm well aware of how their season went. Their secondary was a huge weakness that was covered up by a front 7 and scheme that most teams didn't handle very well. Look at what Midwestern and Pueblo did to them through the air, Pueblo QB was 34/46 for 435 and 5 TDs.

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  • WT_TKW
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    Originally posted by Turbonium View Post

    Western's secondary was pretty bad last year, doesn't seem like they've solved that problem this year.
    It couldn't have been that bad. They lost only 1 regular season game, defeated CWU in the playoffs beore losing to Bemidji by 1 on a long fumble recovery for a TD.

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  • Turbonium
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    Originally posted by MooseLodge View Post
    I looked at the WT stats and they were pretty impressive, particularly the QB. Might be a fun season for WT football.
    Western's secondary was pretty bad last year, doesn't seem like they've solved that problem this year.

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  • Great White Buffalo
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    If your definition of fun is 6-5, you may be correct.

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  • MooseLodge
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    I looked at the WT stats and they were pretty impressive, particularly the QB. Might be a fun season for WT football.

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  • Buffalo/Islander Alum
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    Originally posted by Rockofwesties View Post
    WT will be 0-2 after next week. I asked ChatGPT for some good excuses. It listed roster shakeups, altitude, tough schedule. I had to explain to AI that the real reason was a coaching change in 2013.
    I dont think its a given WT loses. They will be at home and Mines isnt as good as years past. Also this is Mines first game. If they give up that many points and lose next week then I will worry.

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  • Rockofwesties
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    WT will be 0-2 after next week. I asked ChatGPT for some good excuses. It listed roster shakeups, altitude, tough schedule. I had to explain to AI that the real reason was a coaching change in 2013.

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  • GoBuffs
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    It was good to have WT football back on KGNC. I also watched it. The defense was terrible. Couldn’t stop the run and looked confused. Offense was good at times but also appeared confused on play calls from the sideline. If the defense doesn’t improve dramatically, it’s going to be another long season. Sad to say!

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  • Buffan78
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    Listnening to WT and Western Colo on KGNC radio. So nice we have a local radio station carrying the games. Well 4th quarter Buffs down by 14.. Defense missing a lot of tackles... bad defense and now with 6 min left looks like another home opening loss. Current coach will definitely not have a job after this season if the defense doesnt step it up.How I miss the Carthel years.

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  • Turbonium
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    Originally posted by BuffaloChip View Post

    A couple of the RBs are nursing injuries. One kid I met played at UMass and had a game with 135 return yards against Florida State. Supposed to be fastest kid on team. Waiting for an ankle. Besides QB Martinez, WR room may be best on the team.
    Well they did lose that game 59-3 and he fumbled one of the kickoff returns...

    We'll see how improved WT is real soon although if they have any sort of passing game and a good WR group they should pick Western's secondary apart rather easily. If this doesn't happen I would be mildly concerned.

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