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  • Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post

    Tomiwa was the major loss. The rest of the portal entries are basically irrelevant and easily replaceable. Hate to be so blunt but that's the reality. Polce and Bethea, my opinion, got screwed over and we all saw those two leaving. Diop and the walk-ons ... so be it.

    As of this moment Joe has five strong players in the program. Total. So, we're now looking at 8 new players.

    All I can say is not every thing is as it seems. Not all those who left did so on their own accord.

    View the upcoming, new roster before making judgements. You may like what you see. Trust me. Addition by subtraction.
    College sports at the D2 level has become a tough business. Coaches want their scholarships to produce results or good-bye, and the transfer portal supports that model.

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    • So where did the Brit land?

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      • Originally posted by IUPNation View Post
        So where did the Brit land?
        He hasn't committed anywhere yet. I would suspect he will soon.

        You can't play around with mid-major offers while in the portal. In some cases they offer you and 4-5 other guys for your position. First one to sign gets the spot. It's a much more cut-throat world of recruiting than D2. Players sign without ever visiting the school or meeting the coach in person. It's crazy.

        I know a player who personally went through it last year. The coach gave him 24 hours. The player thought he was being told a fib (i.e. car salesman trick) to get him to sign quickly. Turns out the coach wasn't lying. They pulled the offer the next day and signed another player at the position.

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        • Originally posted by IUPalum View Post

          Relax, there are a lot of roster spots to fill. I’m just glad no silent nights will be planned.
          It’s disappointing that there’s not a group of students on campus to plan things like that anymore and help to promote the program for free amongst the student body.

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          • Originally posted by Scrub View Post

            So true. Saving a year these days often means saving it so it can be used by some other coach at some other institution later. So may as well use 'em while you got 'em.
            Yeah...I think DII coaches need to rethink how they do redshirts. Kind of like the football equiv of special team players. Play the freshmen enough to burn a year and thereby eat a year that might entice a D1 then, if necessary, "redshirt" them their Soph or even Junior year.. Might be a different discussion bring an unproven guy with four years in as opposed to one with three (or perhaps two) years in.

            Stars are going to go no matter how you structure their careers at your school, but the "second tier" careers can be manipulated. He11, D1's manipulate the college playing careers of their players all the time...time DII coaches learned to play by the new rules as well.

            Either that, or the top tier DII's becomes a "minor league" or "farm team" for D1's. "We're just happy to have you here in Pawtucket banging homers until the "big club" calls for you!"
            Last edited by boatcapt; 04-07-2023, 07:23 PM.

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            • Originally posted by boatcapt View Post

              Yeah...I think DII coaches need to rethink how they do redshirts. Kind of like the football equiv of special team players. Play the freshmen enough to burn a year and thereby eat a year that might entice a D1 then, if necessary, "redshirt" them their Soph or even Junior year.. Might be a different discussion bring an unproven guy with four years in as opposed to one with three (or perhaps two) years in.

              Stars are going to go no matter how you structure their careers at your school, but the "second tier" careers can be manipulated. He11, D1's manipulate the college playing careers of their players all the time...time DII coaches learned to play by the new rules as well.

              Either that, or the top tier DII's becomes a "minor league" or "farm team" for D1's. "We're just happy to have you here in Pawtucket banging homers until the "big club" calls for you!"
              Add to it that way less high school players are signing with D1 programs. I mean, dramatically less. D1's are taking the quick fix method (portal). So those spots are getting taken.

              We then get better players here in the bush league ... for a duration.

              So, yes, a minor league of sorts is forming.

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              • Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post

                Add to it that way less high school players are signing with D1 programs. I mean, dramatically less. D1's are taking the quick fix method (portal). So those spots are getting taken.

                We then get better players here in the bush league ... for a duration.

                So, yes, a minor league of sorts is forming.
                Yep...DII coaches have been very reluctant to take steps that would decrease the value of their players to D1. Thought being I guess is if you don't want to be here, we don't want you. I understand the centament but the reality of the situation "on the ground" has changed. While there is not a lot a DII coach can do, there are SOME things they can do to poison the well so to speak. Like I said, stars going to transfer, but coaches can take steps to limit the transfer potential for non-star type players.

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                • Originally posted by IUP24 View Post

                  I am intrigued by Bethea. I hope he gets a serious opportunity next year and has a real role. I think he has a lot of upside and can grow into a really nice player. I think it was dumb of Joe to have burned the year, but it doesn’t really matter at this stage of college sports anyways.
                  Well I'm afraid I've got some bad news...

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                  • Originally posted by Fightingscot82 View Post

                    Well I'm afraid I've got some bad news...
                    You’re a little late, pal.

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                    • Tomiwa has committed to Bryant

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                      • Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post
                        Tomiwa has committed to Bryant
                        Imho Iup would beat them.

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                        • Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post
                          Tomiwa has committed to Bryant
                          Sad. Seems like a downgrade.

                          Their basketball facility looks like a crappy high school gym.

                          Last edited by IUPNation; 04-09-2023, 05:05 PM.

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                          • Baffling decision. They get 900 a game.

                            Maybe he'll come back after next season.

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                            • Originally posted by IUPNation View Post

                              Sad. Seems like a downgrade.

                              Their basketball facility looks like a crappy high school gym.
                              Bryant does have a more competitive schedule. Gym looks like your average PSAC venue.

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                              • Money talks....

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