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[IUPbigINDIANS]

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Easy for you to say, Cal WBB hosts the conference and region tourneys all the time. And I'm sure that you like the IUP WBB program right where it is----unable to get over the hump against the tough teams. Okay, they won the PSAC last year but you guys had two very quality starters missing.

IUP WBB has not hosted a conference or region since 2008. Even then it tossed away the region top seed by losing in the opening round. This stuff can be hard to take after awhile.

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I think that sums up some of the opinions regarding the women's program. Sure, they win a lot. With their financial resources, facilities and, frankly, talent, ... I think it's very fair to say winning 20 games is expected. Going 2-9 against Cal, however, ... getting pretty old to many people. I hate to say the vibe around the program is 'yeah, they'll do well all year until the stakes are high' ... but, being honest, that's kind of the vibe.

It's the same way Curt Cignetti struggled when the lights got the brightest.

As for the Mercyhurst loss ... upsets happen but that's of historic proportions. I question if that's a PSAC record for largest win in the first meeting and then losing the second.

[IUPalum]

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First time I ever cheer for West Liberty and they lose.

That just bulked up Fairmont's resume in a big way.

It's going to be a tough road just to get in to the regional this year.

[IUP24]

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First time I ever cheer for West Liberty and they lose.

That just bulked up Fairmont's resume in a big way.

That has to also help IUP though. Has to bump IUP's SOS or whatever mathematical formula they use.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

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First time I ever cheer for West Liberty and they lose.

That just bulked up Fairmont's resume in a big way.

[IUP CRIMSON HAWKS]

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Actually the program is pretty solid. Basically 20 plus wins each season plus PSAC and NCAA tournament position. Stinker games like MC happen to most all teams and don't really matter if the team is able to put it all together when it counts. COACH TOM has a winning record against everyone except one team which sucks if that team is a roadblock to ultimate success. Can't say if he'll ever get by that roadblock, but he certainly has the pieces in place to do so. In my view CALU will likely lose at least 2 more games (@IUP, @BORO) so the C'HAWKS have at least 1 more lose to give before talking about losing home court. Settle down.

Easy for you to say, Cal WBB hosts the conference and region tourneys all the time. And I'm sure that you like the IUP WBB program right where it is----unable to get over the hump against the tough teams. Okay, they won the PSAC last year but you guys had two very quality starters missing.

IUP WBB has not hosted a conference or region since 2008. Even then it tossed away the region top seed by losing in the opening round. This stuff can be hard to take after awhile.

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[CALUPA69]

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This program is beyond maddening!

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Actually the program is pretty solid. Basically 20 plus wins each season plus PSAC and NCAA tournament position. Stinker games like MC happen to most all teams and don't really matter if the team is able to put it all together when it counts. COACH TOM has a winning record against everyone except one team which sucks if that team is a roadblock to ultimate success. Can't say if he'll ever get by that roadblock, but he certainly has the pieces in place to do so. In my view CALU will likely lose at least 2 more games (@IUP, @BORO) so the C'HAWKS have at least 1 more lose to give before talking about losing home court. Settle down.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

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The Gazette reported today Vaughns didn't play again yesterday due to an ankle injury. He did dress yesterday unlike Wednesday so he's probably not far off.

It said Cobo also had been battling some virus issues and wasn't up to par.

I scanned the box ... Blake played 14 minutes with 0 points and 1 rebound. He has to get going. There's no choice but to keep playing him some minutes.

That was the third buzzer-beater win of the season (Bloom, Boro, Mercy). Under two seconds left ... put it that way.

[IUP CRIMSON HAWKS]

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The next 4 are a gauntlet and will tell the tale of the season and he direction. I'm hoping to make the trip next saturday but I'm probably going to have my own team responsibilities. Looks like the online broadcast will have to do.

What level of basketball do you coach, if you don't mind my asking?

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[IUPalum]

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Joe's next four:

@SRU
Gannon
UPJ
@Gannon

This is a brutal stretch. The forecast looks good for Wednesday. Hopefully 100-200 make the trip to Morrow. It's going to be a fun one.

SRU has averaged about 200 per game. There will be 2,000+ for Joe's visit.

The next 4 are a gauntlet and will tell the tale of the season and he direction. I'm hoping to make the trip next saturday but I'm probably going to have my own team responsibilities. Looks like the online broadcast will have to do.

[IUP CRIMSON HAWKS]

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The Mercy ladies' turnaround is pretty remarkable.

I don't follow the women's game enough to know the details but they played a zone against Tom yesterday and IUP looked like they had never seen one before.

I've seen Tom enough this year to realize they are a flow team. They're great when they control things. Disrupt that flow and things get ugly. Quickly.

All the normal pretty passing and set shooting turns in to Appleby driving the hoop and throwing up wild shots.

It's just plain unconscionable to think that you could possibly lose to a team that you completely ran over by 50+ points a mere few weeks before. How does that happen.

You probably hit the nail on the head with your succinct synopsis.

Geez, they have a perfect opportunity here right in front of them to play at home in the postseason. Looks like they need to win out now to avoid throwing it all away after that little episode yesterday.

This program is beyond maddening!

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[IUPbigINDIANS]

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Joe's next four:

@SRU
Gannon
UPJ
@Gannon

This is a brutal stretch. The forecast looks good for Wednesday. Hopefully 100-200 make the trip to Morrow. It's going to be a fun one.

SRU has averaged about 200 per game. There will be 2,000+ for Joe's visit.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

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The Mercy ladies' turnaround is pretty remarkable.

I don't follow the women's game enough to know the details but they played a zone against Tom yesterday and IUP looked like they had never seen one before.

I've seen Tom enough this year to realize they are a flow team. They're great when they control things. Disrupt that flow and things get ugly. Quickly.

All the normal pretty passing and set shooting turns in to Appleby driving the hoop and throwing up wild shots.

[IUP CRIMSON HAWKS]

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Wonder how many more layups IUP could have driven to the basket and just heaved up awful line-drives at the basket? You'd think after the first 10 didn't work ... maybe a different strategy.

Tom is doing his best to p!ss away hosting a regional.

That team is too soft. We said it after watching the Cal game. No killers. That's just an unacceptable loss.

Real nice choke job there! Yeah, just pizzing away the right to host the conference and region.

Soft doesn't even begin to describe it! And this program hasn't had any killers since Z, Staci, and Kylie left.

Have fun playing the postseason down at Cal again. Suckers! Just glad that I haven't been drinking their kool-aid for several years now.

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[IUPbigINDIANS]

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haha .. Tom beat them by 51 two weeks ago ... lost today.

Figure that out.

[Golden89]

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Another IUP loss, is Mercyhurst that good, or IUP that bad?

Gannon beat Mercy by 29. Gannon is getting better, but they are not 29 points better than a good opponent. I cannot accept the fact that Mercyhurst is that good. As the carnage was unfolding, we were wondering how the Lakers ever won a game. Now they have beaten Cal and IUP in the last 10 days.