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Stay safe. Sounds like a 'start NYE' early type of day.
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Originally posted by IUP CRIMSON HAWKS View PostWhoa, I was just
thinking at least the IUP teams are getting back at it today. I wonder when the makeup date will occur?
Folks can now watch the Arizona St.-Arizona game at 9 PM tonite on the PAC-12 Network.
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One thing that's really grown on me over the years is catching the late night games after the IUP game ... the conference Gonzaga is in. ESPN always puts them on at like 10pm every Saturday night.
They actually play real basketball. It's like the D2 game on steroids. It's not all dunks, fouls and bricks like most Power Five teams.
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Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View PostTonight's game at Gannon is postponed due to inclement weather. No makeup date has been announced.
Folks can now watch the Arizona St.-Arizona game at 9 PM tonite on the PAC-12 Network.
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Tonight's game at Gannon is postponed due to inclement weather. No makeup date has been announced.
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Originally posted by IUP CRIMSON HAWKS View PostI wonder how many people really like D-II men's basketball? Just speaking for myself I know that I really don't care much for it or at least until they get into the NCAAs in March. I like to follow it then. But I would much prefer to watch the D-I heavies on the tube than to sit and watch PSAC men's hoops at an overpriced arena. The women's game at least seemed to be it's own thing. D-II men just seemed to be a too watered down version of what you watch on television with the likes of North Carolina, Duke, Kentucky, et al.
I guess I'm not really into D-II football that much either but really do like to follow IUP. But I suppose in the last analysis, to each his own.
I still say that if the KCAC would set some more realistic prices in regards to tickets and concessions then they would no doubt draw much better.
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Originally posted by Columbuseer View PostD1 basketball has incredibly physically gifted players and media promotes it heavily and of course d1 schools have far more alumni and fans. I see some amazing physical feats in D1.
Speaking for myself, here is why I prefer GOOD D2 basketball.
1. The mastery of the fundamentals - passing, FTs, shooting, dribbling. It is amazing how many D1 athletes cannot shoot a FT reliably or pass against trapping pressure or take just plain DUMB shots. AAU ball is hurting skill development.
2. Team offense and defense - they actually pass the ball to more than two players before taking a shot.
3. They tend to listen to the coach and not make bonehead plays.
4. The are STUDENTS first, then athletes; The Adidas scandal at D1 is just the tip of the iceberg.
5. Cost for fans is reasonable - both admission and concessions (maybe I exclude some schools based on this forum).
6. If I ignore the attributes that one is born with and cannot control (i.e., height, fast twitch muscles, arm length, etc.), overall I think D2 players have better basketball skills. They are just 2-4 inches too short for their position or are not in the upper 1 percentile for quickness or jumping ability.
I tend to weigh these factors more, but I acknowledge I am way out in the lunatic fringe when compared to other fans.
I would add:
7. The players in DII seem to stay more or less for four years. Nothing drives me as crazy as these one and done hot shot prospects at the big schools. The NBA needs to do what the NFL does where you cannot enter the draft until you are three years removed from high school. It would obviously make for a much better college game as well as for much better finished and ready products for the NBA.
Your thoughts here were good ones!
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Originally posted by IUP CRIMSON HAWKS View PostI wonder how many people really like D-II men's basketball? Just speaking for myself I know that I really don't care much for it or at least until they get into the NCAAs in March. I like to follow it then. But I would much prefer to watch the D-I heavies on the tube than to sit and watch PSAC men's hoops at an overpriced arena. The women's game at least seemed to be it's own thing. D-II men just seemed to be a too watered down version of what you watch on television with the likes of North Carolina, Duke, Kentucky, et al.
I guess I'm not really into D-II football that much either but really do like to follow IUP. But I suppose in the last analysis, to each his own.
I still say that if the KCAC would set some more realistic prices in regards to tickets and concessions then they would no doubt draw much better.
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Speaking for myself, here is why I prefer GOOD D2 basketball.
1. The mastery of the fundamentals - passing, FTs, shooting, dribbling. It is amazing how many D1 athletes cannot shoot a FT reliably or pass against trapping pressure or take just plain DUMB shots. AAU ball is hurting skill development.
2. Team offense and defense - they actually pass the ball to more than two players before taking a shot.
3. They tend to listen to the coach and not make bonehead plays.
4. The are STUDENTS first, then athletes; The Adidas scandal at D1 is just the tip of the iceberg.
5. Cost for fans is reasonable - both admission and concessions (maybe I exclude some schools based on this forum).
6. If I ignore the attributes that one is born with and cannot control (i.e., height, fast twitch muscles, arm length, etc.), overall I think D2 players have better basketball skills. They are just 2-4 inches too short for their position or are not in the upper 1 percentile for quickness or jumping ability.
I tend to weigh these factors more, but I acknowledge I am way out in the lunatic fringe when compared to other fans.
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Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View PostI think the 'iconic' Indiana Mall is walking The Green Mile.
Two of its anchor stores are now closed and it's rumored the next one (The Bon Ton) isn't far behind. There are numerous other empty units inside.
I'd be shocked if it's open in a year or two. It's a nice (big) piece of land so it won't stay vacant long. I'd guess it gets torn down and something new goes up.
The movie theater there is still kind of neat (to me, anyway). I saw The Goonies there in the mid-80s. It still looks exactly the same in the lobby. They did some interior renovations inside the theater (seats, etc). Capri Pizza is still booming. I'd assume they relocate in town somewhere. Good stuff. And, yes, Capri Pizza still has the 25-cent TVs on the tables from the 1970s.
I think we can conclude that the moronic tax reassessment was the death knell of the last vestiges of Indiana County business.
Rodney Ruddock is one hell of a guy. Can you believe that idiot was actually a two-star general in the Army? The total d*** would have lost at least half of the soldiers under his command if he ever had to lead them into battle. Brainless dolt. Graduate of the Army War College. What a sad joke. I guess he just sat at the reassessment hearings like a scared little mouse with his head down. What wonderful leadership he offered along with the other worthless county commissioners!
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Originally posted by IUPNation View PostMalls are dying everywhere. It's not just an Indiana thing although they could have at least nenovated the Indiana Mall once over the last 38 years. It's still 1979 in there.
The Exton Mall here in affluent Chester County is getting sadder by the day. There is only one mall that is decline proof in the entire state...King of Prussia.
I do agree that The Home office is probably more at fault with their genius scheduling to cause attendance declines than anything else......
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Originally posted by IUP CRIMSON HAWKS View PostI wonder how many people really like D-II men's basketball? Just speaking for myself I know that I really don't care much for it or at least until they get into the NCAAs in March. I like to follow it then. But I would much prefer to watch the D-I heavies on the tube than to sit and watch PSAC men's hoops at an overpriced arena. The women's game at least seemed to be it's own thing. D-II men just seemed to be a too watered down version of what you watch on television with the likes of North Carolina, Duke, Kentucky, et al.
I guess I'm not really into D-II football that much either but really do like to follow IUP. But I suppose in the last analysis, to each his own.
I still say that if the KCAC would set some more realistic prices in regards to tickets and concessions then they would no doubt draw much better.
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Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View PostI think the 'iconic' Indiana Mall is walking The Green Mile.
Two of its anchor stores are now closed and it's rumored the next one (The Bon Ton) isn't far behind. There are numerous other empty units inside.
I'd be shocked if it's open in a year or two. It's a nice (big) piece of land so it won't stay vacant long. I'd guess it gets torn down and something new goes up.
The movie theater there is still kind of neat (to me, anyway). I saw The Goonies there in the mid-80s. It still looks exactly the same in the lobby. They did some interior renovations inside the theater (seats, etc). Capri Pizza is still booming. I'd assume they relocate in town somewhere. Good stuff. And, yes, Capri Pizza still has the 25-cent TVs on the tables from the 1970s.
The Exton Mall saw the JC Penny's close and now part that is now this bowling entertainment kind of a place. The Sears has to be on the target list soon. The Macy's is so run down inside the store. It's nowhere near as nice as the Macy's at King of Prussia which is only 15 minutes away. The Boscov's is okay but like most Boscov's it's so packed with merchandise that is all looks ticky tacky. The mall stores are half empty. Main Line Health took over a portion of the mall store area for medical office space. They renovated the mall 15-16 years ago and now it's all kinda sad. I only go in there if I absolutely have too.....and usually only to go to the food court which is the only part that draws crowds on most days.Last edited by IUPNation; 12-26-2017, 12:32 PM.
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Your point is very valid. The era today ... with the High Def age with everybody owning a 60" TV ... I think people just prefer to stay home. I, too, love watching the 'big time' college games.
That said, I'd still take a 'live' IUP basketball game any day over anything on TV. That's just me. I like the sounds, speed, crowd (or lack of) and general excitement of seeing it live that I just personally don't get at home. I've been in the KCAC when it's packed to the walls. I've been in there with 500 people. Doesn't make a huge difference to me. I think what I've grown to like most about seeing the games live is watching the slow transformation of the teams over the course of the season. It's only Christmas and IUP is a completely different team now than it was in November. Night and Day. They were very frustrating to watch a month ago. I'll say the Dec 26 edition of Bravado's team would beat the Nov. 26 version by 20 points.
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I wonder how many people really like D-II men's basketball? Just speaking for myself I know that I really don't care much for it or at least until they get into the NCAAs in March. I like to follow it then. But I would much prefer to watch the D-I heavies on the tube than to sit and watch PSAC men's hoops at an overpriced arena. The women's game at least seemed to be it's own thing. D-II men just seemed to be a too watered down version of what you watch on television with the likes of North Carolina, Duke, Kentucky, et al.
I guess I'm not really into D-II football that much either but really do like to follow IUP. But I suppose in the last analysis, to each his own.
I still say that if the KCAC would set some more realistic prices in regards to tickets and concessions then they would no doubt draw much better.
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