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  • IUPbigINDIANS
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    Bart's post had some good points. It also got me curious to compare it to Pittsburgh.

    I pulled last years numbers. Robert Morris averaged about 1,000 a game. Duquesne was at 1,200. In comparison IUP did 1,500 a game last season but is barely over 800 so far this year. The other D1, St.. Francis, did about 850 a game. Not bad for Loretto.

    I agree on the culture. Bellarmine looked like it was the place to be. I don't know ... maybe that's a rivalry night and I tuned in on the right night. I get the vibe, though, that's always a hot ticket.

    Conversely, Louisville did 22,000 per home game last year. That's nuts. That's a basketball crazy area, too.

    It looked awsome ... like the D2 Cameron Indoor.

    Hopefully Pitt gets that atmosphere back again some day. WVU games are pretty nuts.

    The announced gate at Bellarmine last night was just under 2,000. I don't know how accurate but it was the energy that sold me. That would be a real tough place for visitors.
    Last edited by IUPbigINDIANS; 01-16-2018, 07:04 PM.

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  • Fightingscot82
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    I think it's campus culture. The level that students actually want to be there is correlated to the level that they support it. We're all little brother schools to Penn State and other perceived "major" schools. Students aren't proud to go here so they don't support it as such. Bellarmine students want to be there and they support the school. Students who would rather be attending Penn State cheer for Penn State while paying tuition somewhere else.

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  • Bart
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    The obvious is the population of Louisville can support several teams. It seems many small private schools get support from the faculty, students, and locals because their identities are tied with the school; something akin to local high school football. My experience indicates most D3 basketball programs in the area outdraw the D2 programs.

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  • IUPbigINDIANS
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    I watched most of the Southern Indiana at Bellarmine game last night.

    Bellarmine is a really good team and won fairly easily against a solid USI team.

    The atmosphere is what jumped out at me. Packed crowd ... in to the game ... loud. Great atmosphere. It really felt like watching a D1 crowd. Students stood the whole game.

    They really get a legit home court advantage due to the '6th man' ...

    It sure looked a bit different than PSAC games -- empty seatbacks and wooden bleachers galore.

    They have an incredible culture there on game nights. We can't use the normal 'they're the only show in town' excuse, either, as they are second fiddle to Louisville.

    I'll just never understand why the KCAC can't get an atmosphere like that one. I know there's been a few over the years but way too far and few in between.

    The PSAC finals with Rock and Ship were great atmospheres. The SRU game three years ago was .. the infamous Gannon 'silent night' game was up there. Not too many others come to mind.

    That place was rocking last night.

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  • IUPbigINDIANS
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    I'm considering leaving Pittsburgh a bit early Wednesday and heading down to the Angelo Dome. Looks like a good doubleheader.

    Any advice from you Vulcans on a good dining spot before the game? Is that bar/restaurant way up on the hill (overlooking town) still open?

    Two years ago I remember getting in to town late and grabbing dinner at the student union. Campus food has come a long way compared to the slop in the late 90s.

    I fully anticipate the men's game to be another tight one. Maybe IUP pulls away late. I've watched quite a few Cal games this year. They have some real nice offensive players who can score the ball.

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  • VoiceOfReason
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    I think they got a better look, no doubt, but Cleary was trying to call a TO & in that situation, the trail official has to be aware of the situation

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  • IUPbigINDIANS
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    The last play ... at the 1.8 second mark ... you can see the Edinboro players in the screen. None signaled for a timeout. I don't think coaches can call them anymore. Tell you what ... that last shot they tossed up just about when down. That was a good look for just having 1.8 to work with ...

    https://portal.stretchinternet.com/p...reamType=video

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  • VoiceOfReason
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    Just like football in the PSAC, the refs have too much impact on the game.

    How isn't a TO a given after Lombadri makes that shot?

    Everyone in the building knew a TO was coming, except the trail ref who would be responsible for awarding it?

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  • IUPbigINDIANS
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    Originally posted by VoiceOfReason View Post
    A stretch 4 who could shoot it from 15 feet, pick & pop action would be impossible to defend
    They have a nice team ... definitely could have won yesterday. IUP really sold out on those three guards but they still got all but 12 of Edinboro's points. They seemed like the press really caught them off guard and really struggled with it at times. IUP must have had 9-10 steals -- not all from the press but they got several from it.

    That said, for as much as IUP struggles against the press I was surprised Edinboro didn't try it more. If I was coaching against IUP ... I'd press them all night.

    There are some awfully good games coming up. I'll be interested to see Edinboro play Slippery Rock. If you think IUP's bigs were a little aggressive ... wait until you see those boys. That's a rough team but a good team.

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  • IUPbigINDIANS
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    Gazette game stories for men's and women's games:


    https://www.indianagazette.com/sport...b7ee5a07f.html


    https://www.indianagazette.com/sport...082571a21.html

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    They had Andre Frederick a six nine center from Robert Morris last season. He was listed as a junior last season but obviously left the program.

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  • VoiceOfReason
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    A stretch 4 who could shoot it from 15 feet, pick & pop action would be impossible to defend

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  • IUPbigINDIANS
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    Imagine if they did ... team would be nasty.

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  • VoiceOfReason
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    Originally posted by Fightingscot82 View Post
    Box score shows Staunch called for no fouls.
    You are correct, and I believe that magnifies my point

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    Originally posted by IUPalum View Post
    Interesting... did Diaz guard the post at all in this game? It looked like Diaz was on Liggins most of the game and Willem and Danielek guarded the paint. I'd love to see these guarded through the backs you're yacking about.

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