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    One thing that can be put to rest is the notion that Louisville is some sort of great college basketball town in general. Sure, there's the omnipresent (and quite annoying) U of L and UK support, talk, etc. But Scotty, to his credit, worked his tail off promoting that game against the Univ. of Cincinnati at Freedom Hall, and we only got 4100+ out there. Hope he isn't too in-the-dumps over that -- he did a tremendous job promoting the event.

    BU (like so many high-level D-II programs those of us on this site support) is certainly as fun to watch as a low-to-mid D-I. And UC is a top 15 or so D-I squad. If this city was some great college hoops mecca, it would've put at least 10K in the stands.

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      Originally posted by BellarmineGrad View Post
      One thing that can be put to rest is the notion that Louisville is some sort of great college basketball town in general. Sure, there's the omnipresent (and quite annoying) U of L and UK support, talk, etc. But Scotty, to his credit, worked his tail off promoting that game against the Univ. of Cincinnati at Freedom Hall, and we only got 4100+ out there. Hope he isn't too in-the-dumps over that -- he did a tremendous job promoting the event.

      BU (like so many high-level D-II programs those of us on this site support) is certainly as fun to watch as a low-to-mid D-I. And UC is a top 15 or so D-I squad. If this city was some great college hoops mecca, it would've put at least 10K in the stands.
      I also was bummed out some by the size of the crowd, but its about what I expected. Possibly the lousy dizzly rainy weather discouraged a few people who may have come out but changed their mind because of the weather --- doubt there were too many of those.

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        Honestly, I was impressed with the crowd. Scotty was never realistic with the 10000 figure. I thought 3,000 would be good.

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          Nah, it's pretty sad if a metro area of 1.2M+, which supposedly is crazy about college basketball, can't put at least 8K in the seats for a game featuring two interesting teams (one local and one from down the highway) and for which there are some incentives (historic venue, free parking, inexpensive tickets, etc.).

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            Cant say I was too discouraged about the crowd. It was decent. I think we are going to see a bit of a downturn in the enthusiasm for college hoops around here. Once the hammer falls on UK there will be a real lack of enthusiasm. It may get some of the half-hearted BU alumni out though. The kind that supports UofL or UK even though they graduated from BU.

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              Yeah, I'm hoping BU can pick up at least a little support as the big guys get shut down by The Man.

              Sure, that attendance could've been worse, but my point still stands for a supposed hotbed with a metro population of well over a million.

              Looking forward to seeing the guys back in action tomorrow night. Talk about bad crowds, though -- hope I am wrong, but my gut tells me there'll be a horrid turnout for that MSJ exhibition.

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                I was out of town and missed Saturday's exhibition. Sounded like Scotty was feigning some anger over the turnovers. MSJ was suppossed to be a pretty good D3 team so they should have provided some good practice. Really weird stat for the game: BU had 3 fouls, total, for the game, by the whole team. Seems nearly unbelievable. I'm not even sure it's a good stat because it may indicate a lack of aggresiveness, after all the first 6 (on defense anyway) are free. The game must have been over pretty quick. Chitty with 8 assists looks good. The fact that Eberhard did not shoot much or score much probably indicates that he wanted to work on other things.

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                  You think Scotty will start his real starting 5 tonight? At this point, I'm not sure who that is, but it seems like he may want to treat this game more like a real game in prepartation for Friday's start of the real season. I have not seen anything in the media discussing UofL refusing to even talk to Scotty about the coaching job. I thought it might come up prior to this game.

                  Update: Louisville game notes list the probable starters for Bellarmine as the starters for the UC game. I am assuming that is the "real" starting lineup. Really shows how much we miss Cook. Cook could actually match up fairly well with Deng Adel. Louisville is so long but its not just their 6'10" 4 and 7'0" 5, its the length at the 2 and 3 that will probably cause us the most problems. The 7 footer, Anas Mohmoud, is extremely talented and may end up a lottery pick. Quentin Snyder is a nice point guard for them, I think Coles will match up well with him.

                  Frankly, I don't think its possible for BU to keep them off the boards. What is possible is not turning over the ball and shooting a decent percentage and that is what BU will have to do to keep the game interesting.
                  Last edited by Knightmoves; 11-07-2017, 09:53 AM.

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                    Originally posted by Knightmoves View Post
                    You think Scotty will start his real starting 5 tonight? At this point, I'm not sure who that is, but it seems like he may want to treat this game more like a real game in prepartation for Friday's start of the real season. I have not seen anything in the media discussing UofL refusing to even talk to Scotty about the coaching job.
                    You serious? When I was at USI Davenport was the most childish acting coach we ever saw. He ranted against people on the scorers table at USI after I graduated is what I heard. No Division I program would hire a guy like Davenport, he's stuck at Bellarmine. UofL wasn't going to hire a guy like that, they already have enough issues to deal with without bringing in a 60 plus year old anger management candidate like Davenport. He's also brought in plenty of questionable players to Bellarmine when I was at USI, don't recall names but there was always a hint of shadiness to his recruiting and tactics on the sidelines.

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                      Originally posted by Duluth Sleuth View Post
                      You serious? When I was at USI Davenport was the most childish acting coach we ever saw. He ranted against people on the scorers table at USI after I graduated is what I heard. No Division I program would hire a guy like Davenport, he's stuck at Bellarmine. UofL wasn't going to hire a guy like that, they already have enough issues to deal with without bringing in a 60 plus year old anger management candidate like Davenport. He's also brought in plenty of questionable players to Bellarmine when I was at USI, don't recall names but there was always a hint of shadiness to his recruiting and tactics on the sidelines.
                      You obviously don't live in Louisville. There was a great deal of discussion in the local media about hiring Davenport at Louisville.(i.e., https://www.diehards.com/louisville/...ce-rick-pitino, http://www.wdrb.com/story/36478517/b...ious-challenge) I am very glad that it did not happen, but it may still be a possibility after this season and I would expect the media to bring it up again. Since when do schools care about sideline antics if a coach is a winner? Your shady recruit comment is unsupported and defamatory, not to mention untrue.

                      One more thing: name a better coached basketball team on the planet than Bellarmine.

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                        Originally posted by Knightmoves View Post
                        You obviously don't live in Louisville. There was a great deal of discussion in the local media about hiring Davenport at Louisville.(i.e., https://www.diehards.com/louisville/...ce-rick-pitino, http://www.wdrb.com/story/36478517/b...ious-challenge) I am very glad that it did not happen, but it may still be a possibility after this season and I would expect the media to bring it up again. Since when do schools care about sideline antics if a coach is a winner? Your shady recruit comment is unsupported and defamatory, not to mention untrue.

                        One more thing: name a better coached basketball team on the planet than Bellarmine.
                        When I was at USI doing games for the student station we always had access to access to Coach Herdes, who I loved talking with about basketball. He told us about Davenport sending in players to intentionally try and start fights with our best players and it finally worked in a GLVc Tournament game in the PAC. He also talked about a guy from La Salle that Davenport brought in despite rape allegations. Little shady I would say. If he's such a great coach, how does he get his brains beat in last year in the Elite 8 by Fairmont? He's a decent coach in a very bad league. The GLVC was going downhill when I was a student at USI and we still had KWC, NKU, SIUE in the league. Now it's a joke. I don't say USI has a great coach, obviously Coach Watson has a lot of issues with strategy it sounds like. But don't tell us what a great coach Davenport is when he never gets a sniff from D1 schools. You are delusional if you think UofL would even consider him. Plus he's Pitino guy. Makes you wonder if the apple does not fall far from the coaching tree.

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                          Originally posted by Duluth Sleuth View Post
                          When I was at USI doing games for the student station we always had access to access to Coach Herdes, who I loved talking with about basketball. He told us about Davenport sending in players to intentionally try and start fights with our best players and it finally worked in a GLVc Tournament game in the PAC. He also talked about a guy from La Salle that Davenport brought in despite rape allegations. Little shady I would say. If he's such a great coach, how does he get his brains beat in last year in the Elite 8 by Fairmont? He's a decent coach in a very bad league. The GLVC was going downhill when I was a student at USI and we still had KWC, NKU, SIUE in the league. Now it's a joke. I don't say USI has a great coach, obviously Coach Watson has a lot of issues with strategy it sounds like. But don't tell us what a great coach Davenport is when he never gets a sniff from D1 schools. You are delusional if you think UofL would even consider him. Plus he's Pitino guy. Makes you wonder if the apple does not fall far from the coaching tree.
                          I don't want Louisville to hire Davenport, but there were at least 20 local and national media stories suggesting they do just that. I guess they are all delusional.

                          You remind me a tad bit of the moms in the stands at a youth ball game. They are always convinced that the other team is cheating and trying to hurt their kid. I was at the game at the PAC, tempers flaired, but the idea that BU players were directed to start a fight is silly. Also, Davenport was at UofL under Crum, so he really isn't just a Pitino guy.

                          I want to specifically address your comment about the rape allegations, which I have addressed on this board before. Dzaflo Larkai was the player. He was charged with raping a woman at his previous school, La Salle. The charges were dismissed the day before he was to stand trial because the woman "refused" to testify. The prosecutors dismissed the case because she recanted. This young man was wrongfully accused, but is still dragged through the mud. By all accounts, he was a very good player for Bellarmine, but an even better person. I am proud of what Bellarmine did for him.

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                            Originally posted by Duluth Sleuth View Post
                            He's a decent coach...
                            Now this merits a "LOL!" Yeah, and the earth is sorta round.

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                              Skotty coach gud wen allow to cheet but whyn no have pics of ref wive in da nude not so sucksissfull be he? Rod drag him aroun by de shote uns dis year waitncee

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                                Originally posted by Duluth Sleuth View Post
                                When I was at USI doing games for the student station we always had access to access to Coach Herdes, who I loved talking with about basketball. He told us about Davenport sending in players to intentionally try and start fights with our best players and it finally worked in a GLVc Tournament game in the PAC. He also talked about a guy from La Salle that Davenport brought in despite rape allegations. Little shady I would say. If he's such a great coach, how does he get his brains beat in last year in the Elite 8 by Fairmont? He's a decent coach in a very bad league. The GLVC was going downhill when I was a student at USI and we still had KWC, NKU, SIUE in the league. Now it's a joke. I don't say USI has a great coach, obviously Coach Watson has a lot of issues with strategy it sounds like. But don't tell us what a great coach Davenport is when he never gets a sniff from D1 schools. You are delusional if you think UofL would even consider him. Plus he's Pitino guy. Makes you wonder if the apple does not fall far from the coaching tree.
                                Hearing the same old crud from "new" posters who pop up every six months or so with names like EaglesPride, Indy Greyhound etc. About four or five of these guys but probably all just one person with different screen names. Just a joke, really, because if they were serious they really be idiots. No one that spends any time following D2 basketball would say that crap about Davenport. His W-L record, his tournament record and, most importantly, his record with how well his players turn out in life are all outstanding. The fight accusation is so stale, it reeks of poor loser syndrome. The rape accusation, as Moves has pointed out several times, was not credible. The whole episode is actually another indication of how great Davenport is with his players. He stood by a kid who was wrongly accused and helped him to continue on with life after such a harrowing experience. Scotty may have his tirades on the court (some of which may actually be a benefit-can you say "working the refs") but they must be in very clean language because he really does not get many T's. Go somewhere else for some dirt, not going to find it here.

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