National Championship

[KleShreen]

2006 sure was a long time ago

You sure have a weird way of measuring general success for a program. Since 2006, there's been two programs better than GVSU. Ferris and NW Missouri. It just so happens all three of those teams have shared the same region for almost a decade now. So your trying to denigrate GV's success simply because they've been.....#3? Is kinda weird. Any three of those programs could have been appearing in 10 of the last 16 title games if they didn't have to eliminate one another every year lol.

[NWHoops]

Maybe GVSU, you’re living in the past with NW. They barely got in.

That's kind of the point of these threads though isn't it and the point of the post you responded to? NW had their weakest team in probably 20 years and yet Ferris, Pitt, GV, and NW played each other closer than anyone else in the playoffs (and regular season except the UCO game for NW). What's that say about the rest of the regions?

[EastStroud13]

To be honest it's pretty telling to me that the fans of the outlier best teams are the ones complaining the loudest about the state of D2. D2 is, by design, the lowest level of scholarship football in the NCAA. Teams aren't going to drop their entire athletic departments down to D3 because their football programs can't compete on a national level. Granted, there are some programs that shouldn't be D2 at all, but none of the programs that qualified for the playoffs fit this description.

Conference and regional play are what matters to the majority of D2 football members, that's why we have the regional format. Programs that don't like it can always move up to the FCS level. Staying in D2 is an implicit acceptance that you're playing primarily regional-scale football.

[IUPNation]

To be honest it's pretty telling to me that the fans of the outlier best teams are the ones complaining the loudest about the state of D2. D2 is, by design, the lowest level of scholarship football in the NCAA. Teams aren't going to drop their entire athletic departments down to D3 because their football programs can't compete on a national level. Granted, there are some programs that shouldn't be D2 at all, but none of the programs that qualified for the playoffs fit this description.

Conference and regional play are what matters to the majority of D2 football members, that's why we have the regional format. Programs that don't like it can always move up to the FCS level. Staying in D2 is an implicit acceptance that you're playing primarily regional-scale football.

There ya have it…

[GorillaTeacher]

It’s telling that you all care more about conference championships than national championships.

Even high school kids hardly care about conference championships. Why should college kids. If people cared so much about regionality, why is bowl season the biggest joke of the highest division? Why do so many kids sit out those games?

[KleShreen]

To be honest it's pretty telling to me that the fans of the outlier best teams are the ones complaining the loudest about the state of D2. D2 is, by design, the lowest level of scholarship football in the NCAA. Teams aren't going to drop their entire athletic departments down to D3 because their football programs can't compete on a national level. Granted, there are some programs that shouldn't be D2 at all, but none of the programs that qualified for the playoffs fit this description.

Conference and regional play are what matters to the majority of D2 football members, that's why we have the regional format. Programs that don't like it can always move up to the FCS level. Staying in D2 is an implicit acceptance that you're playing primarily regional-scale football.

The scholarship limit is 36. If your school isn't willing to fund all 36, then they should just drop their football program because they're just throwing money in to a pit if they aren't fully funded or giving coaches decent salaries. If your main goal is to be the best team in your conference or region, then do like Tuskegee used to do in D2 and other HBCU's still do in FCS, and opt out of the playoff format. Play bowl games against each other while the playoffs are going on if your goal is to be good in your region and not nationally. Let more schools who are serious about the sport make the actual playoffs from other regions.

Maybe SR1 should just opt out of the playoffs entirely and do bowl games against each other, and let all 28 playoff teams come from SR2/3/4. Then we wouldn't subject the entire country to nationally-televised games of football that is meant to only be regional. Play sprint football.

[IUPNation]

The scholarship limit is 36. If your school isn't willing to fund all 36, then they should just drop their football program because they're just throwing money in to a pit if they aren't fully funded or giving coaches decent salaries. If your main goal is to be the best team in your conference or region, then do like Tuskegee used to do in D2 and other HBCU's still do in FCS, and opt out of the playoff format. Play bowl games against each other while the playoffs are going on if your goal is to be good in your region and not nationally. Let more schools who are serious about the sport make the actual playoffs from other regions.

Maybe SR1 should just opt out of the playoffs entirely and do bowl games against each other, and let all 28 playoff teams come from SR2/3/4. Then we wouldn't subject the entire country to nationally-televised games of football that is meant to only be regional. Play sprint football.

Or your 20K plus student school should just move up. You aren’t a small school..and you schools is a trust fund baby born on third base that gets its entire funding handed to them.

Last I checked Mines wasn’t from Region 1….and most of Region 2 isn’t that good either other than 3 teams from the GSC.

What you want is a 10 member dick wagging competition.

[GorillaTeacher]

Where are you finding that the states fund all of their scholarships? I don’t think it’s true in Missouri. There are a lot of fcs schools and d2 schools, and they aren’t very fond of public education policies.

[IUPNation]

It’s telling that you all care more about conference championships than national championships.

Even high school kids hardly care about conference championships. Why should college kids. If people cared so much about regionality, why is bowl season the biggest joke of the highest division? Why do so many kids sit out those games?

Because they want to get drafted and kids in D2 will only be at NFL games if they buy a ticket.

[GorillaTeacher]

This is straight from Pitts website
“No tax dollars are spent on intercollegiate athletics scholarships in the state of Kansas. Therefore, private funding is crucial in maintaining the level of success that Pittsburg State’s athletics programs have enjoyed over the years. The private contributions are vital in preparing Pittsburg State's young men and women to win in the classroom and on the field of competition.”

[IUPNation]

Where are you finding that the states fund all of their scholarships? I don’t think it’s true in Missouri. There are a lot of fcs schools and d2 schools, and they aren’t very fond of public education policies.

Can they use their funding they get for athletics? In Pennsylvania they cannot. Whatever IUP gets in state funding can not go to athletic scholarship funding. So you guys are doing something to get funded.

What other sport it Pitt State nationally ranked in other than foosball? You all sponsor less sports than most Pee Sack schools.

[GorillaTeacher]

You’re right, we don’t offer all the sports. Baseball (recently), track and field, cross country and women’s basketball are all generally nationally competitive. But we also don’t use athletics to enroll our school. We put 6000 (on average) butts in CSS, we sell sponsorships, we get extorted into donating to the scholarship fund when we buy our season tickets. And maybe they use some of their tuition to fund it, but not from state funding.

[IUPNation]

This is straight from Pitts website
“No tax dollars are spent on intercollegiate athletics scholarships in the state of Kansas. Therefore, private funding is crucial in maintaining the level of success that Pittsburg State’s athletics programs have enjoyed over the years. The private contributions are vital in preparing Pittsburg State's young men and women to win in the classroom and on the field of competition.”

So you have a Sugar Daddy who writes the check? :-)

[GorillaTeacher]

Called the fans, community members and businesses that support our teams.

[GorillaTeacher]

I’d suggest if you’re not finding 31 equivalencies, then youre not eligible for championship play. You can organize your own bowl game regionally.